Baby boomers getting older, retiring & still wanting to drive.
This is kind of a segway from a few other threads that mention baby boomers getting older, retiring & still wanting to drive.
First of all I am glad to know a lot of baby boomers are cyclists. I know & are friends with quite a few because of cycling. If it is one undeniable fact about a good majority of the baby boomer generation it is the I'm entitled to everything attitude. I know this is true for a lot of generations but the BB's takes the cake when it comes down to it. I wonder what will happen when the the BB's start having to give up their driving priviliges. Will it be more difficult to prevent them from driving then it is the current generation this is happening to? They think they are entitled to everything so what will happen? |
you live to piss people off, don't you?
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Originally Posted by N_C
.........(it's segue)...............................They think they are entitled to everything so what will happen?
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I thought that people stopped spitting on Viet Nam Vets a long time ago.
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Originally Posted by N_C
If it is one undeniable fact about a good majority of the baby boomer generation it is the I'm entitled to everything attitude. I know this is true for a lot of generations but the BB's takes the cake when it comes down to it.
I wonder what will happen when the the BB's start having to give up their driving priviliges. Will it be more difficult to prevent them from driving then it is the current generation this is happening to? They think they are entitled to everything so what will happen? Most of think in terms of "they". "They" will find a new form of transportation. "They" have invented a car that runs on water. "They" will discover an endless source of free, cheap energy. With this logic, you can fill in the blank with just about anything. "They" ________ |
more older(50+) people with more free time voting more often
fewer young people with less free time voting less often could this become the next big issue? - oops, too late we're already there I just wonder, with ever increasing life expectancy, if it will ever balance out but that's another matter all together |
Of course if they kill themselves in auto accidents it just may save social security.
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Your oldest Boomer is 61, not to terribly old.
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Originally Posted by N_C
If it is one undeniable fact about a good majority of the baby boomer generation it is the I'm entitled to everything attitude. I know this is true for a lot of generations but the BB's takes the cake when it comes down to it.
I also think that a lot of the problem with bad driving, whether related to age or other factors, could be solved by requiring all holders of a DL to periodically retest. More extensive testing than is currently required that would also cover 1st aid, basic maintenance, legal requirements for pedestrians and cyclists, etc. |
Originally Posted by CommuterRun
As a tail-end Boomer, I think this attitude gets progressively worse with each younger generation. It's all me, me, me and now, now, now. Too many people expect instant gratification and it just doesn't happen, so they get upset.
I also think that a lot of the problem with bad driving, whether related to age or other factors, could be solved by requiring all holders of a DL to periodically retest. More extensive testing than is currently required that would also cover 1st aid, basic maintenance, legal requirements for pedestrians and cyclists, etc. |
So what some fo you are saying is cyclists are safe from BB's resisting giving up their driving due to problems associated with age for at least another 15 to 20 years.
BTW, my generation, often refered to as generation X is as I understand it why we have a lot of safety items in households now. Things like the plastic electric outlet plug covers, the sink cabinet door locks, the bumpers for the corners of coffee tables & the blow up bumper for tub faucets. I guess we got hurt to much as children so now as parents we want to prevent that with our own kids. If you ask me it helped make us tough. I think a lot of kids these days are a little too soft & weak & maybe not as adventureous. It was not uncommon for me to come home with skinned up knees, etc from playing. These days it seems parents freak out about it. My mom just said don't get blood on the carpet & clean up before dinner. It was also because of my generation that wearing a bike helmet became a big issue. I never wore on, as far as I knew they didn't exist. Or they were to expensive for mom to afford, you could not find one at the local dept. store like you can now. So what happened between my generation & the current one? I'm all for being safe, but let kids go out & get dirty & maybe a little skinned up, it's good for them. |
Originally Posted by N_C
If it is one undeniable fact about a good majority of the baby boomer generation it is the I'm entitled to everything attitude. I know this is true for a lot of generations but the BB's takes the cake when it comes down to it.
I have never met a baby boomer that felt like they were intitled to any thing they didnt earn through thier own hard work. So I think it is a very deniable fact. Which would in fact mean its not a fact.
Originally Posted by N_C
I wonder what will happen when the the BB's start having to give up their driving priviliges. Will it be more difficult to prevent them from driving then it is the current generation this is happening to? They think they are entitled to everything so what will happen?
What is really interesting is how you felt the need to insult the people that build bicycles. The people that created the people that ride bikes today. You, a person that obviously feel you are intitled to the things you want, a person that obviously feels your rights are being violated by the majority, feels the need to insult the very people that fought and died to give you the things you want. Are there any people that you actually like? Are you really willing to give up the the things you beleive in, to prove that people shouldnt have the right to persue the things they enjoy. I hate being called a baby boomer by a generation that cant keep their pants on. I hate being called a baby boomer by the generation that b..... ah s**t what s the use. Bet you really hate them folks that fought in the civl war.:( |
Originally Posted by N_C
So what some fo you are saying is cyclists are safe from BB's resisting giving up their driving due to problems associated with age for at least another 15 to 20 years.
No, You are just as safe from our generation as you are from your generation. We aint out to kill you or take away your rights. |
You'll want to drive as long a possible too, don't kid yourself.
jw |
So what happened between my generation & the current one? |
Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
24/7 sensationalized news, governmental nannyism, and sensitivity training.
IMHO we aren't going to have to worry too much about babyboomer drivers drivng at age 80...go read the Peak Oil thread;) Aaron:) |
Originally Posted by wahoonc
And don't forget liability lawsuits...
IMHO we aren't going to have to worry too much about babyboomer drivers drivng at age 80...go read the Peak Oil thread;) Aaron:) Explain to me how someone can be sued for a kid getting hurt while playing on public land. My brother & I used to go down to a creek exploring & walking along it ended at the river where access was blocked off for saftey reasons but we could climb up from the creek bed before we got to the access & into a city park. The whole area is still public land. Had we been hurt I don't think my mom could have sued it is land for public use. Cities also post signs in parks with rules & regs. plus a disclosure that states use is at your own risk. Maybe this is not worth anymore then the material it is printed on but doesn't it prevent the cities from being sued for anything other then their neglience? Also there is a lot of playground equipment still used in city parks that fall under a grand-father clause & maybe even the land itself does too. |
Originally Posted by N_C
This is kind of a segway from a few other threads that mention baby boomers getting older, retiring & still wanting to drive.
First of all I am glad to know a lot of baby boomers are cyclists. I know & are friends with quite a few because of cycling. If it is one undeniable fact about a good majority of the baby boomer generation it is the I'm entitled to everything attitude. I know this is true for a lot of generations but the BB's takes the cake when it comes down to it. I wonder what will happen when the the BB's start having to give up their driving priviliges. Will it be more difficult to prevent them from driving then it is the current generation this is happening to? They think they are entitled to everything so what will happen? I really wonder why you would post something like this. It's a lot like talking before really thinking what you are saying. You make a generalization about an entire generation of citizens and say: "If it is one undeniable fact about a good majority of the baby boomer generation it is the I'm entitled to everything attitude." |
Originally Posted by dauphin
you live to piss people off, don't you?
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So what is your favorite dystopia senerio ??
Road Warrior Blade Runner Omega Man On Golden Pond Rapture I lean toward Road Warrior myself..the fashions are cooler. They'll take my keys when they pry 'em from my cold dead fingers !! |
Okay, as a BB, going to be 61 soon, I feel that I can comment on this, but it applies only to myself. Before I do, I have a few specific comments to make.
Originally Posted by N C
So what happened between my generation & the current one? I'm all for being safe, but let kids go out & get dirty & maybe a little skinned up, it's good for them....
...Also there is a lot of playground equipment still used in city parks that fall under a grand-father clause & maybe even the land itself does too. When you take your kids to the playground, and see this old equipment, break the chains apart. If they have not been replaced since the playground equipment was installed, it is possible that the links are worn and about to part. I've investigated a school ground where this actually happened for a little girl, who was over pavement swinging (the swing set was placed on pavement), going up when the chain broke. She landed on her head and was in a coma for awhile. I then checked my kid's playground at their school, and found the same thing. So check it out before you trust your kids to old playground equipment.
Originally Posted by John Wilke
You'll want to drive as long a possible too, don't kid yourself.
We are a very diverse generation, so you cannot peg us all with one statement. Some will have problems, so won't. Some protested Vietnam, and some of us served in it too. It's an individual thing, and I think you cannot generalize anything about BBs. I will also be doing a lot of walking. If you'll remember the Indian Wars (maybe they don't cover that in schools these days), there was one Apache chief who, when jumped by the US Army, ran out into the desert for many, many miles and was not caught. I think he was in his 90s at the time. (I'll remember his name sometime around 2 AM tomorrow morning.) John PS--Well, it apparently was Chief Victorio, and he wasn't in his 90s, but age 52 when he led his Mimbreno Apaches away from the US Army for three years in 1877. That probably seems like the 90s seem today to a grade schooler. Here's a link: http://www.greatdreams.com/apache/apache-warriors.htm |
Maybe we could just line em up against the wall when they come of age?
If they're incapable of navigating a car, we surely don't want them wandering about on foot or a bike. Let's herd them all in a pen, strip them of thier belongs and implement a solution. What age are you looking at? Should we have a gradual phase in, maybe minorities first, or just go for it and have a Crystal Night kind of event. Your goose stepping is leaving heel marks in the hall. |
Originally Posted by John C. Ratliff
If you'll remember the Indian Wars (maybe they don't cover that in schools these days), there was one Apache chief who, when jumped by the US Army, ran out into the desert for many, many miles and was not caught. I think he was in his 90s at the time. (I'll remember his name sometime around 2 AM tomorrow morning.) John PS--Well, it apparently was Chief Victorio, and he wasn't in his 90s, but age 52 when he led his Mimbreno Apaches away from the US Army for three years in 1877. That probably seems like the 90s seem today to a grade schooler. Here's a link: http://www.greatdreams.com/apache/apache-warriors.htm http://www.indians.org/welker/geronimo.htm |
Originally Posted by N_C
I'm going to be 35 in Nov.
I had you pegged at North of 80! Sitting in your single wide mobile home, all by yourself, watching the world go on by without you. And hating every minute of it! |
Elderly drivers who were driving long past their capability to do so safely has been a problem since the WWII generation. I remember my grandma's driving. Oooh. Gives me shivers. But at least she never drove an SUV text messaging with one hand, drinking a latte with the other, and periodically slapping the kids in the back seat while folding laundry on the freeway.
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