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Nearly Fatal Bicycle-Automobile Accident in Portland

Old 02-09-07, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
Then they probably already have.
Where does it say that?
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Old 02-09-07, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_knob
Where does it say that?
It doesn't; that's why I said "probably." I don't know anything more than you do. All I know is that 1) the cyclist and the driver were both over the legal limit and 2) cycling under the influence is treated as a DUII. If the cops don't mitigate punishment due to injuries sustained while under the influence of intoxicants, then the cyclist gets a DUII.
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Old 02-09-07, 02:15 PM
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The news doesn't say whether she was charged or not. That's not the same thing as saying she won't be charged. The driver was arrested because he was DUI in an accident. There's no way they were going to send him merrily on his way. If the cyclist hasn't already been charged, I believe she will be. They're probably not in any hurry, considering that they know where she is right now.
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
It doesn't; that's why I said "probably."
I saw "probably" in your original post. So what you really "said" is that is how YOU would like it to come out.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
The news doesn't say whether she was charged or not.
Geee, iwonder why
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
They're probably not in any hurry, considering that they know where she is right now.
Well last i heard is after one sobers up they are cut loose from jail usually within a few hours ,,So when they DO cut one loose they don't REALLY know where that person is anyways
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Old 02-09-07, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_knob
my goodness when some of you are pryed away from bar graphs & statistics, you have no common sense or reasoning!
You say that as if you can reason.
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Old 02-09-07, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
under the influence of intoxicants, then the cyclist gets a DUII.
Just remember that alcohol & illegal drugs are NOT the only "intoxicants" that one can rack up a DUI on ones spreadsheet with
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Old 02-09-07, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Helmet Head
Well, since two of you insist...
The plethora of bike lanes and other bicycling facilities inevitably casts a cloud of carelessness in the minds of Portland cyclists, leading to mindless and lackadaisical cyclist behavior in general, which infects them even on roads without facilities. Running stop signs in front of cross traffic is par for the course for Portland cyclists disabled by bike lane mentality and associated expectations, like invincibility while cycling.
How's that?
Ah jeez, HH, you took the bait! Unfortunately, you'll have to do better than that. We have very few bike lanes here in Portland Maine, yet there is no shortage of lax cyclist behavior here either. So I don't think we can blame bike lanes for this one. Plain old human nature, I would say...
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Originally Posted by Big_knob
OH! but they know HE was
Yes, they know he was charged, because he was arrested. She wasn't arrested because...

Do you really truly believe that they(law) REALLY cares about that? (wait! don't answer that!)
They don't arrest people who are near death in the hospital. They can wait. It's not like she's going to "get away" if they don't place the cuffs on her now. In fact, if she hasn't already been charged-- and I don't think she's been charged yet-- she will likely be charged without ever having been arrested.
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Originally Posted by JohnBrooking
Ah jeez, HH, you took the bait! Unfortunately, you'll have to do better than that. We have very few bike lanes here in Portland Maine, yet there is no shortage of lax cyclist behavior here either. So I don't think we can blame bike lanes for this one. Plain old human nature, I would say...
If my hypothesis is correct, that bike lanes contribute to, encourage and promote mindless and lackadaisical cyclist behavior, that doesn't mean that ALL mindless and lackadaisical cyclist behavior stems from bike lanes, and that without bike lanes, there wouldn't be any of it, or nearly none of it.

So the lack of shortage of lax cyclist behavior in Portland Maine where there are very few bike lanes is not evidence indicating that my hypothesis is incorrect.
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Originally Posted by Big_knob
What is this? so they could of charged her with DUI. SHE went straight to the hospital ,RIGHT? They KNEW she WAS DUI material,RIGHT? So ....
Edit: I better clarify this for you...lol
Meaning about hospital, i mean for blood test.So she was right at home for procedure.
And you have proof that they didn't test her? That's interesting. Maybe you should forward such proof to the media, because everybody here is still wondering what happened...
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Look they KNEW she was DUI & didn't charge her (atleast didn't mention it,as they did with him) One does not have to go to jail to be charged,is all i am stating. & that's the bottom line.
OH wait! maybe they are going to make sure she survives first so they don't have to waste time with paper work & then she dies on them,,yep,that's it
Now you can get on with your statistics & bar graphs there Blue Order

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Old 02-09-07, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
Oh, and knob-- you misspelled "too."
Of course i did.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
she will likely be charged without ever having been arrested.
O'rly?
When??
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Old 02-09-07, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_knob
O'rly?
When??
It wouldn't be the first time: BUI
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
So you need it spelled out for you? The link is to another BUI incident; it shows that charges can be filed well after the incident in question, a fact that you have been disputing in one drivel-filled post after another.
I know very well first hand that charges can be brought up on later dates on ocassion. Like when they need to build a case. BUT that incident is a "in your face" case. like i stated in another post, are they waiting just to see if she is going to survive to lay down the ticket ,after all they wouldn't want to go all that trouble & she dies on them.Don't you get it there jr.?

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Originally Posted by Big_knob
I know very well first hand that charges can be brought up on later dates on ocassion. Like when they need to build a case. BUT that incident is a "in your face" case. WTF like i stated in another post, are they waiting just to see if she is going to survive to lay down the ticket ,after all they wouldn't want to go all that trouble & she dies on them.Don't you get it there jr.?
I have no idea what law enforcement/the criminal justice system is waiting for; they haven't sent me any memos on it. You seem to know everything, though, so maybe you should tell us.

F'wit.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
a fact that you have been disputing in one drivel-filled post after another.
Like i stated before: back to the bars & graphs for you.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
I have no idea what law enforcement/the criminal justice system is waiting for; they haven't sent me any memos on it. You seem to know everything, though, so maybe you should tell us.
Alls they had to do is leave a DUI ticket in her belongings at the hospital, thusfully charged.
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Originally Posted by Big_knob
Alls they had to do is leave a DUI ticket in her belongings at the hospital, thusfully charged.
You still haven't told us why they didn't.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
You still haven't told us why they didn't.
How should i know , when did i ever say i did?
But that is how all this started they blew off so much about him being charged & nothing about her being charged OR GOING TO BE CHARGED.
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Originally Posted by Big_knob
How should i know...
Which is all we've ever said here.
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I personally don't care if she is charged tommorow ,next week, next month or even in the next decade.
It just not right for the media to say one is charged & not mention the other being done so.
Instead they play the pity thing with her being in the hospital & all . When it was her fault & her doing.
But as i state things aren't always right.
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Originally Posted by Blue Order
Which is all we've ever said here.
Not you you have been talking like a know it all with no experience on either end of the schtick, there cowboy.
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