Could bike helmets provide more protection?
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Could bike helmets provide more protection?
Hi my name's Graham, currently studying Product Design at DeMontfort Uni in Leicester. I'm currently in the process of researching into cycle hemlets for competition use, and could really do with some feedback on what you think of the current situation of bike helmet safety. Are they too bulky? Why would some people be put off from wearing them? what direction do you see head safety equipment going in the future? Have you ever fallen foul of head safety equipment in the past?
I'd be really grateful for any feedback on this issue to help me design a new helmet which could be marketed in 5 years time.
Any other info, stories, or stats would be most welcome.
Thanks for your time
I'd be really grateful for any feedback on this issue to help me design a new helmet which could be marketed in 5 years time.
Any other info, stories, or stats would be most welcome.
Thanks for your time
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What kind of competetion? There's cyclocross, criteriums, single day road races, multi day road races, single track, down hill, etc.
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Originally Posted by graed8
Are they too bulky?
Originally Posted by graed8
Why would some people be put off from wearing them?
Originally Posted by graed8
What direction do you see head safety equipment going in the future?
Originally Posted by graed8
Have you ever fallen foul of head safety equipment in the past?
Originally Posted by graed8
I'd be really grateful for any feedback on this issue to help me design a new helmet which could be marketed in 5 years time.
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Some people think helmets are uncool. If you could in some way make it cool, then people may be more inclined to buy them. People also feel compelled to rebel against an authority that forces them to wear the helmets. Therefore, despite data to the contrary, they don't wear a helmet. It seems that helmets need to have their image overhauled not the design.
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Originally Posted by slowandsteady
not the design.
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Jaw and mouth protection badly needed
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Gimme a helmet that is pretty much the same weight, look and feel of a cycling cap and can prevent head trauma from an impact of say 25mph.
If that isn't feasible, show me ANY helmet that can PREVENT accidents.
If that isn't feasible, show me ANY helmet that can PREVENT accidents.
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Originally Posted by kf5nd
Jaw and mouth protection badly needed
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Wearing a helmet is safer than not wearing a helmet. No question about it.
That being said, I used to wear a helmet religiously. If I was on the bike, I had a helmet on and properly buckled.
These days I only wear one at night, and that is primarily because the one I used to wear, my old commuter helmet, has reflective tape all over it and a headlight mounted to it. During the day I wear a ballcap.
What price range do you expect to target when you make your helmets available commercially? Someone like me, even when I wore a helmet all the time, is not going to shell out 200 bones for one. I don't think I've ever spent more than $40 for a helmet. Much more than that, and all you're paying for is style and a name.
That being said, I used to wear a helmet religiously. If I was on the bike, I had a helmet on and properly buckled.
These days I only wear one at night, and that is primarily because the one I used to wear, my old commuter helmet, has reflective tape all over it and a headlight mounted to it. During the day I wear a ballcap.
What price range do you expect to target when you make your helmets available commercially? Someone like me, even when I wore a helmet all the time, is not going to shell out 200 bones for one. I don't think I've ever spent more than $40 for a helmet. Much more than that, and all you're paying for is style and a name.
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Originally Posted by chipcom
Gimme a helmet that is pretty much the same weight, look and feel of a cycling cap and can prevent head trauma from an impact of say 25mph.
If that isn't feasible, show me ANY helmet that can PREVENT accidents.
If that isn't feasible, show me ANY helmet that can PREVENT accidents.
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I don't believe we'll get much further in the protective aspects of helmets, just weight and shape. There's only so much a helmet can do.
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Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
I don't believe we'll get much further in the protective aspects of helmets, just weight and shape. There's only so much a helmet can do.
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the lighter and cooler the better. I don't wear a helmet when the weather gets really hot because it's just miserable to wear one.
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Originally Posted by rando
the lighter and cooler the better. I don't wear a helmet when the weather gets really hot because it's just miserable to wear one.
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seriously! I don't know if it's just me or what, but my head gets so hot I just wanna rip the thing off.
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Originally Posted by graed8
Hi my name's Graham, currently studying Product Design at DeMontfort Uni in Leicester. I'm currently in the process of researching into cycle hemlets for competition use, and could really do with some feedback on what you think of the current situation of bike helmet safety. Are they too bulky? Why would some people be put off from wearing them? what direction do you see head safety equipment going in the future? Have you ever fallen foul of head safety equipment in the past?
I'd be really grateful for any feedback on this issue to help me design a new helmet which could be marketed in 5 years time.
Any other info, stories, or stats would be most welcome.
Thanks for your time
I'd be really grateful for any feedback on this issue to help me design a new helmet which could be marketed in 5 years time.
Any other info, stories, or stats would be most welcome.
Thanks for your time
Kids, however, have been conditioned to wear a helmet so without making any changes, I expect helmet use to increase over time.
That written, if you could design a helmet that could protect a rider from head injury at relatively high cycling speeds--say Chipcom's 25 mph--without simply redesigning a motorcycle helmet, then you might be able to motivate the helmetless holdouts.
I do think that you have a difficult problem, however. My understanding is that rigidity of the helmet surface is not the problem; but dissipating all of the energy before my brain gets smushed is the problem. Although I will point out that I am neither a physicist nor an engineer.
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+1 face/jaw protection, w/o being obtrusive. I would say something like a football quarterback guard, but that might end up breaking your neck if it snagged on something pokey.
How about a little beanie cap you wear with 360 degree sensors. When it detects an imminent crash (w/ distance and acceleration sensors) it deploys a swarm of nanobots which destroy everything in your path. or they could just form a barrier to protect you.
more seriously, what about using some type of gel instead of a static foam, which would help the pressure/impact to be distributed over a larger area. It could also have the added benefit of causing the helmet to become snugger once impact began, helping it stay on your head.
How about a little beanie cap you wear with 360 degree sensors. When it detects an imminent crash (w/ distance and acceleration sensors) it deploys a swarm of nanobots which destroy everything in your path. or they could just form a barrier to protect you.
more seriously, what about using some type of gel instead of a static foam, which would help the pressure/impact to be distributed over a larger area. It could also have the added benefit of causing the helmet to become snugger once impact began, helping it stay on your head.
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Originally Posted by chipcom
Gimme a helmet that is pretty much the same weight, look and feel of a cycling cap and can prevent head trauma from an impact of say 25mph.
If that isn't feasible, show me ANY helmet that can PREVENT accidents.
If that isn't feasible, show me ANY helmet that can PREVENT accidents.
How about this helmet?
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Originally Posted by rando
seriously! I don't know if it's just me or what, but my head gets so hot I just wanna rip the thing off.
It's you. I forget the thing is even on my head. Frankly, I can't understand why anyone complains. What helmet do you have that gets so hot?
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Originally Posted by kf5nd
Jaw and mouth protection badly needed
They already exist. Just buy one.
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How about a helmet that deploys an airbag for your head when it senses you are falling toward the ground? It could be integrated into a cycle cap & have sensors that cause it to deploy when you are falling to the ground in the event of an accident. Light, cool & protective all at the same time.
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I could see a market for bicycle helmets utilizing this technology:
https://www.cardowireless.com/index.php
As per what I said above, I wouldn't want one, but someone who likes to yap a lot (like my wife and daughter)........
https://www.cardowireless.com/index.php
As per what I said above, I wouldn't want one, but someone who likes to yap a lot (like my wife and daughter)........
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I used to use a Bell V1 Pro. Had a thick hard shell, rounded edges and the usual foam inner liner with soft foam pads.
"...the first helmet developed specifically for bicycle racing..."
That was the height of bike helmet technology as far as I am concerned.
Everything from there is downhill... especially the microshell technology, and the odd aero helmets with the strange protrusions out the back... that can grab pavement and tourque your neck as you roll and slide down the road.
"...the first helmet developed specifically for bicycle racing..."
That was the height of bike helmet technology as far as I am concerned.
Everything from there is downhill... especially the microshell technology, and the odd aero helmets with the strange protrusions out the back... that can grab pavement and tourque your neck as you roll and slide down the road.
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Originally Posted by CommuterRun
I could see a market for bicycle helmets utilizing this technology:
https://www.cardowireless.com/index.php
As per what I said above, I wouldn't want one, but someone who likes to yap a lot (like my wife and daughter)........
https://www.cardowireless.com/index.php
As per what I said above, I wouldn't want one, but someone who likes to yap a lot (like my wife and daughter)........
#1. Less bulky yet more coverage (make them so they don't look like something is just sitting on the top of your head)
#2. Inclusion of some sort of speaker system to interface via bluetooth to phone or mp3 player. Speakers, while not ideal, would be safer than headphones if played at a reasonable volume.
#3. More styles available. There are basically 3 types of helmets for bicycles right now: the Bell Metro, the skateboarder/x-games style, and everything else that looks exactly the same.
#4. Included rear view/side view mirrors thus helping to avoid accidents.
That is all for now. Otherwise you can run over to the stickied thread on helmets and read about 2000 posts of helmet opinions.
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Originally Posted by rando
I don't know if it's just me or what, but my head gets so hot I just wanna rip the thing off.
I don't buy the top-of-the-line 5 gram helmets with 300 vents, but they are pricey mid-range helmets with good ventilation and reasonably light weight.
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