safe commuting
It is 13 miles to work. Most of the way I usually go is 4 lane city streets with traffic pretty busted up by stop lights. Some are downtown streets iwth parking on both sides. 30 years ago I rode everywhere and was never worried about getting hit. It may be becasue I am older but I have cut back my commutes to one day a week. I also jog and work out in other ways, but I would like to ride to work at least 3 days per week and possibly more. I am not completely adverse to risk, but I like to keep it reasonable. Is it reasonably safe to commute to work in city traffic? I just drove my pickup over to get my kids and the lady in the car beside me was texting while driving. There are bike lanes but they are difficult to get to and cars seem to buzz me more when I am in hte lane. I think I perfer to be in traffic. I also follow "almost" all traffic laws. I know no one can answer this for me, but.... all things considered, is commuting worth the risk, at least for you?
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I did it for years until I retired. Take up space, alot of space, as much as possible.
Bicyclists should be like Hedgehogs, small, but so mean and nasty nobody will want to fool with them. |
Damn, I like the attitude maddyfish.
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Personally, I feel safer on the busy urban city streets than anywhere else. Its those quiet suburban streets and highways that really scare me.
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I'm not a statistician, so I can't back this up with numbers, but I feel that a bike commuter who integrates with traffic, obeys the laws and right-of-way rules, is respectful of others but also confident and assertive, and remains vigilant, is no more likely, and maybe less likely, to get into a crash than the average road user. Of course the risk of injury is greater if you do, so all the more reason to remain vigilant. So yes, I think for me, commuting is well worth the risk, because I don't feel it is so very risky. Like learning to drive a car in traffic, it is daunting at first, but with practice and experience comes confidence and good habits.
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if you can shift the hours you work from lets say.. 9-5 to 10-6 you should be able to avoid a lot more congestion
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I think it's totally safe to ride on city streets, as long as you obey traffic laws and assert yourself a little bit (but not to the point of being a jerk). I ride all over town, day or night, and I've never felt the least bit unsafe. There are roads I just won't ride, though:
1. I won't ride on roads where the posted speed limit is greater than 35 mph, unless it has a wide shoulder or multiple lanes in each direction, with a low enough volume of traffic that cars can get around me without too much difficulty. When faced with a really busy road with all four lanes full of traffic, all the cars going over 50 mph and no shoulder, I won't even consider riding on it. (I generally prefer 30mph arterials, preferably with bike lanes that don't do double duty as street parking.) 2. If I'm crossing a busy bridge that doesn't have a bike lane, I'll use the sidewalk. (I usually don't use the sidewalk, but in some cases I make an exception, and this is the main one.) |
Originally Posted by bragi
(Post 5015927)
I won't ride on roads where the posted speed limit is greater than 35 mph, unless it has a wide shoulder or multiple lanes in each direction, with a low enough volume of traffic that cars can get around me without too much difficulty. When faced with a really busy road with all four lanes full of traffic, all the cars going over 50 mph and no shoulder, I won't even consider riding on it. (I generally prefer 30mph arterials, preferably with bike lanes that don't do double duty as street parking.)
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Originally Posted by bragi
(Post 5015927)
2. If I'm crossing a busy bridge that doesn't have a bike lane, I'll use the sidewalk. (I usually don't use the sidewalk, but in some cases I make an exception, and this is the main one.) Now that we have the Purple People Bridge, that is for bikes/peds only, I don't have to cross the other bridge now. edit- and back when I was commuting, cussing, yelling, and beeping would have gotten you a couple hand-fulls of roofing nails in your tire track, but I've mellowed since then. |
Just take the lane! It really changes the traffic dynamics and reduces the stress for the cyclist.
Do an experiment. Ride down a multi-lane street with traffic like you normally do for 3-4 blocks. Then go back to the "start" and repeat the journey while taking the lane. You know, just to see. You will be given more room by everybody, traffic will not be nearly as disrupted as you imagine, and you will not be right hooked. Remember, if they honk at you, it means they see you! |
4 lane city streets are the best roads for commuting in my opinion. Low enough speed limits that you can almost if not actually keep up with traffic, faster traffic has the left lane to use to pass, almost all right turners will not be turning from a position that could potentially surprise you, and you can (relatively) easily lane split should traffic back up really badly. Take a lane and keep it.
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Originally Posted by lima_bean
(Post 5013871)
Personally, I feel safer on the busy urban city streets than anywhere else. Its those quiet suburban streets and highways that really scare me.
On lighter travelled streets, cars are in a hurry to pass you and will take risks with your safety to get around you. |
Originally Posted by joejack951
(Post 5017029)
4 lane city streets are the best roads for commuting in my opinion. Low enough speed limits that you can almost if not actually keep up with traffic, faster traffic has the left lane to use to pass, almost all right turners will not be turning from a position that could potentially surprise you, and you can (relatively) easily lane split should traffic back up really badly. Take a lane and keep it.
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