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Old 10-20-07, 09:31 AM
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I refuse to dress like a superhero

Why can't a bicycle stand up by itself?
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Because it is too tired!!!!

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Human nature is to remember the stuff that makes you mad for a long time.
Arrogant, non-yieding roadies in PowerRanger motif are the anti-cyclists.
They have done more to hurt our 'cause' in the name of training than all CM's
and lite-less, wrong-way bikers have combined.
The impression that lingers from the group of 10 Lance-a-bes who held a driver up
will remain longer than the guy who is polite, yields and just wants to get home with a
minimum of drama.
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As a Lycra wearer, I might resemble those riders you're referring to, but I don't block the Motorists Don't be so quick to judge, my friend, the "Superhero costume" as you put it, is just a tool for comfort and safety (Wicking, abrasion resistance, and visibility).
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I wear the minimum lycra neccessary for comfort - that being the stuff down under. Pretty much everything else could be anything at all.

I agree with the OP on the road hog mindset of sooo many riders. Makes me crazy and I believe it puts me in danger. In our club, there are rides that I will simply not attend based purely upon the route and the number of people that show up. The more urban the ride, and the more riders - the less likely I am too go along. Just too unwieldy and unpredictable. I just say hello and go the other way. The club founder and some of the leads know why, but it's very hard to disciple individual riders, so...

I think it's a problem of culture here in America. It might have something to do with a sense of individual entitlement: Screw everybody else.

In Europe I witnessed a very different mindset. They seem to have alot more respect for other road users across the board. Oh, and very few Jester Kits.
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From the Illinois Vehicle Code (https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs...ehicle+Code.):

1. Persons riding bicycles or motorized pedal cycles upon a roadway shall not ride more than 2 abreast, except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for their exclusive use. Persons riding 2 abreast shall not impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic and, on a laned roadway, shall ride within a single lane subject to the provisions of Section 11‑1505.

Position of bicycles and motorized pedal cycles on roadways ‑ Riding on roadways and bicycle paths.
(a) Any person operating a bicycle or motorized pedal cycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride as close as practicable and safe to the right‑hand curb or edge of the roadway except under the following situations:
1. When overtaking and passing another bicycle, motorized pedal cycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction; or

2. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway; or

3. When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, parked or moving vehicles, bicycles, motorized pedal cycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes that make it unsafe to continue along the right‑hand curb or edge. For purposes of this subsection, a "substandard width lane" means a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle or motorized pedal cycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.

4. When approaching a place where a right turn is authorized.


First off, what they are wearing should have nothing to do with this. If you are too small minded and childish to get over the fact that some people don't dress how you do, you should probably stay home more often.

Second, if the road is narrow, the cyclists have every right to take up the full lane. Inviting motorists to try and squeeze by in the same lane is dangerous for everybody, especially if sightlines for oncoming traffic are no good. I highly doubt these cyclists caused anyone a significant delay especially on a weekend morning. Again, if you can't take experiencing any delay or someone who won't "keep out of [your] way when [you] are trying to go about [your] business" I suggest you stay home more often. Do you whine this much about traffic lights and stop signs?
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"As a Lycra wearer, I might resemble those riders you're referring to, but I don't block the Motorists Don't be so quick to judge, my friend, the "Superhero costume" as you put it, is just a tool for comfort and safety (Wicking, abrasion resistance, and visibility). "


I know, I know, I know. My apologies to you. I was getting it off my chest.

It's just that it happens here every weekend, and people constantly complain about it, and if I dressed like that I might be mistaken for one of the culprits.

Now I'm off for a ride..............................
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
First off, what they are wearing should have nothing to do with this. If you are too small minded and childish to get over the fact that some people don't dress how you do, you should probably stay home more often.

Second, if the road is narrow, the cyclists have every right to take up the full lane. Inviting motorists to try and squeeze by in the same lane is dangerous for everybody, especially if sightlines for oncoming traffic are no good. I highly doubt these cyclists caused anyone a significant delay especially on a weekend morning. Again, if you can't take experiencing any delay or someone who won't "keep out of [your] way when [you] are trying to go about [your] business" I suggest you stay home more often. Do you whine this much about traffic lights and stop signs?
George Washington said people judge you by the company you keep. When the locals vent their anger at bicyclists, they always mention the duded-up costume bikers. I am careful to disassociate myself from that group for that reason.

Those bikers can easily and safely get out of the way. Like I said, I routinely do so on the very same roads.
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George Washington said people judge you by the company you keep. When the locals vent their anger at bicyclists, they always mention the duded-up costume bikers. I am careful to disassociate myself from that group for that reason.
Aside from being slow road users, what else do these cyclists do that make you so afraid of being associated with them? So far, you haven't provided any real reason for people to get angry other than their own (and your own) impatience.

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Those bikers can easily and safely get out of the way. Like I said, I routinely do so on the very same roads.
So how do you manage to get out of the way? Are motorists still crossing the centerline to pass you? How much space do they give when they pass you?
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Originally Posted by joejack951 View Post
Aside from being slow road users, what else do these cyclists do that make you so afraid of being associated with them? So far, you haven't provided any real reason for people to get angry other than their own (and your own) impatience.

Theories and laws mean nothing. The OP's reality based observations have been
absolutely, 100% correct in my experience. Impatient and angry people are
what we have to deal with. The other stuff is useless when actually on the road.
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I don't dress like you all because I don't want to be associated with the likes of riders like you.
I think there's something about "not reading a book by its cover" that may be in play here. For me, it's not about the clothes, but rather one's actions that define a rider.

I race, so when I train I'm in a kit or some other "super hero" outfit most of the time. In your book, I'm some sort of felon on wheels based purely on the clothes I wear. That doesn't seem like a fair judgement to make. I do dress more casually on non-training rides and when I commute. Perhaps you'd associate with me then?

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Originally Posted by -=Łem in Pa=- View Post
Theories and laws mean nothing. The OP's reality based observations have been
absolutely, 100% correct in my experience. Impatient and angry people are
what we have to deal with. The other stuff is useless when actually on the road.
Where have I denied that impatient and angry people are on the roads? I'm not sure how your post applies to anything I've said.
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I cant do the A&S petty semantic thing.
You get it, or you dont.
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But this whole superhero "costume" issue as well as the peloton thing is brought about by the bicycle marketeers responding to the market they perceive, part of which has been brought about by the way motorists want to see cyclists... isolated.

Everyday folks riding a bike... heaven forbid, you should be in a car.

We have created this image of the cyclist in America, and now we live with it.
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We have created this image of the cyclist in America, and now we live with it.
I think it's more a case of people needing to be a part of a group. For example, the fixie crowd is all about being different and counter culture. But why do they then all look/dress the same? To fit into a group - that's why. Your road racers and wannabees wear tight kits - group again.

If you are wearing casual/loose clothes on your bike - it's the group mentality that also dictates your dress.

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Road racers wear "tight kit" for sound, practicla reasons of comfort and aerodynamic efficiency. It has absolutley nothing to do with wanting to fit in.
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Originally Posted by sknhgy View Post
First off let me say I have a passion for bike riding. I ride every day.
But I do not want to be associated with the kind of riders that come through my neck of the woods on weekends, dressed in superhero costumes while rudely blocking up traffic.

I live in Illinois, close to St. Louis. People come here on weekend rides, acting like they own the place, and all they do is make folks mad by riding 2-3 abreast down the narrow roads. Just this morning I came upon a small pack of riders who were climbing and decending a rather large hill. Its the only road around for several miles and everyone has to use it. The bikers were riding in groups, clogging up the road, and refusing to pull over and let cars and trucks pass. I ride the very same roads and I don't have a problem getting out of the way for vehicles.

I don't dress like you all because I don't want to be associated with the likes of riders like you.

Illinois law says that you shall ride single file, and that vehicles shall provide a 3 foot clearance. Common courtesy says that you keep out of folks' way when they are trying to go about their business.

People around here have a very low opinion of bicycle riders and after the not-so-uncommon experience like I had today, I can see why.
Don't worry no one wants to be associated with a moron like you either.
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Whenever I drive somewhere, eventually I come across another vehicle moving slower than me. During rush hour, there are always other vehicles clogging up the road. People constantly complain about traffic. These cars should pull over and let me by. I am far more important than anyone else on the road. Common courtesy says that most people should just stay home and let me drive. People around here have a very low opinion of other vehicles.

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First off let me say I have a passion for bike riding. I ride every day.
But I do not want to be associated with the kind of riders that come through my neck of the woods on weekends, dressed in superhero costumes while rudely blocking up traffic.

I live in Illinois, close to St. Louis. People come here on weekend rides, acting like they own the place, and all they do is make folks mad by riding 2-3 abreast down the narrow roads. Just this morning I came upon a small pack of riders who were climbing and decending a rather large hill. Its the only road around for several miles and everyone has to use it. The bikers were riding in groups, clogging up the road, and refusing to pull over and let cars and trucks pass. I ride the very same roads and I don't have a problem getting out of the way for vehicles.

I don't dress like you all because I don't want to be associated with the likes of riders like you.

Illinois law says that you shall ride single file, and that vehicles shall provide a 3 foot clearance. Common courtesy says that you keep out of folks' way when they are trying to go about their business.

People around here have a very low opinion of bicycle riders and after the not-so-uncommon experience like I had today, I can see why.
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People come here on weekend rides, acting like they own the place, and all they do is make folks mad by riding 2-3 abreast down the narrow roads.
Um, If it is a narrow lane, and in order to safely pass a cyclist who is crowding the right side of the lane you must cross into oncoming traffic lanes, WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER IF THEY ARE TWO ABREAST OR NOT! Any position in the lane by a cyclist necessitates encroaching oncoming lanes.

I say the real problem is that you keep owning cars that are too wide! Why do you need side to side seating in your car anyway, huh? You act like you own the place!

My argument is just as pointless as yours, because the issue isn't where the cyclists are riding, or how wide your car is. The issue is safely using NARROW PUBLIC ROADS! What part of public don't you understand? If you want to drive where you won't be bothered by cyclists using the PUBLIC road, get on a freeway!
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If you are too small minded and childish to get over the fact that some people don't dress how you do, you should probably stay home more often.
He was quite clear that he was saying that "he doesn't want to dress like others (these cyclists). Nowhere did I see him pose the question that they should be dressed like him.
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I admit it. Part of me is impatient and intolerant. I really didn't intend to offend any respectful riders. But:
1) It's possible to ride without hogging the road.
2) Everyone has the right to dress as they want.
3) The road hogs do turn people against bicycle riders, and I don't care to have drivers pissed at me for something that other people did/do.
There's a little bit of moron in all of us.
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Originally Posted by sknhgy View Post
I admit it. Part of me is impatient and intolerant. I really didn't intend to offend any respectful riders. But:
1) It's possible to ride without hogging the road.
2) Everyone has the right to dress as they want.
3) The road hogs do turn people against bicycle riders, and I don't care to have drivers pissed at me for something that other people did/do.
There's a little bit of moron in all of us.
Define "hogging" the road.

What exactly do you mean by that?

Does your definition include riding at say 18MPH past a line of parked cars well within reach of a potentially opening car door?
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Define "hogging" the road.

What exactly do you mean by that?

Does your definition include riding at say 18MPH past a line of parked cars well within reach of a potentially opening car door?
As a trucker who rides a bike plenty, road hogging is, in one sense: taking your half out of the middle.
Riding prudently to avoid playing door-tag is sensible - take what you think you need.

The road hogs the OP is referring to are cyclists who ride two or three abreast when they know they are blocking the free flow motorised traffic - that's all. A courteous group will have the sweep yelling, "car back". The others will pass the word, and get into single file. No drama, and little if any ill will from motorists.

What's not to get here? This is what I meant when I mentioned our American "self-interest" culture (not neccessarily you, genec, I'm just sayin').
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This whole discussion illustrates why I generally dislike large group rides.
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Originally Posted by sknhgy View Post
I admit it. Part of me is impatient and intolerant. I really didn't intend to offend any respectful riders. But:
1) It's possible to ride without hogging the road.
2) Everyone has the right to dress as they want.
3) The road hogs do turn people against bicycle riders, and I don't care to have drivers pissed at me for something that other people did/do.
There's a little bit of moron in all of us.
Fair enough, but sometimes drivers can't distinguish the difference between "hogging" the road and unsafe riding (eg hugging the curb). More often I think drivers have lost any semblance of courtesy and respect towards cyclists and other motorists. The level of entitlement that views every driver or cyclist in your path as an inconvenience is ridiculous and deadly.

Just another moron's opinion.
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when automobile racers race or train, for the most part they don't use the public roads. Bike racers do. and they look and act like angry ****wads while they're doing it. they deserve all the scorn they get.
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