Possible to beat Summon NYC HELP!
04-11-08, 08:51 AM
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FWIW When Baltimore City police were strictly enforcing the sidewalk law a lot of cyclists were ticketed for riding to/from their front door to/from the street. That raised a few eyebrows during the hearings as that is not the intent of the law and enforcement failed to show due cause for giving the ticket.
04-11-08, 08:55 AM
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Ok, I was late for work and decided to cut through the middle of where I lived and got a summon for riding on the sidewalk. The ticket says that i have to go to 346 Broadway which is a Criminal Court. Last I check code 19-176 falls under the Jurisdiction of The Environmental Control Board so will it be possible for me to beat this ticket if so how should i proceed?What should i say? My court date is June thanks for any insight.
04-11-08, 01:24 PM
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04-11-08, 06:02 PM
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Here's what you do. Plead not guilty on the ticket. Go to traffic court and see if you can find an attorney who works there. Many of these traffic court attorneys are paralegals who know the "system" and can have the ticket discharged. You never know when the other ticket is going to come and it's better to have the first one toss out because the next one will double and you may have to pay that one!
You have a choice, either pay the attorney or the court. Both cost the same.
You have a choice, either pay the attorney or the court. Both cost the same.
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In Cali speeding and moving violations incur huge fines. People go to traffic court, apologize to the judge, and the fines are cut to a fraction of the original. If it works similarly in NY, I bet you could apologize and wind up paying nothing. Again, this highlights the circus of traffic court.
04-12-08, 12:32 PM
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Ok this is how it works:
Read the summons as there are some instructions that instruct you to do one or the other but not both...that is plea guilty OR not guilty. Mail it in by return receipt BEFORE the date that is marked "return date" (or SRD) if it is a "must appear" then you must appear on that date. Even though you are to appear in criminal court it is not a crime that you have been cited for. It is a violation or an offense. It is a NON crime just as a parking ticket. If you appear because you plead not guilty see if you can hook up with a para-legal. BUT remember that just because you pay some guy some money does not mean you will get off and may very well have to pay the fine as well. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THAT is the question that YOU must answer not anyone on this list. As to quotas... I really doubt it...most have better things to do and at the end of the day would be laughted out of the locker room for writing something like this without being instructed to look for such violations. 99 percent of the people have no clue as to how NYPD works. Unless the're on the job forget it. So choose your battles wisely and decide is it worth it to you. Some days I go before a happy judge and the next day he's not so happy.
Read the summons as there are some instructions that instruct you to do one or the other but not both...that is plea guilty OR not guilty. Mail it in by return receipt BEFORE the date that is marked "return date" (or SRD) if it is a "must appear" then you must appear on that date. Even though you are to appear in criminal court it is not a crime that you have been cited for. It is a violation or an offense. It is a NON crime just as a parking ticket. If you appear because you plead not guilty see if you can hook up with a para-legal. BUT remember that just because you pay some guy some money does not mean you will get off and may very well have to pay the fine as well. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THAT is the question that YOU must answer not anyone on this list. As to quotas... I really doubt it...most have better things to do and at the end of the day would be laughted out of the locker room for writing something like this without being instructed to look for such violations. 99 percent of the people have no clue as to how NYPD works. Unless the're on the job forget it. So choose your battles wisely and decide is it worth it to you. Some days I go before a happy judge and the next day he's not so happy.
.) That was a few years ago, things are getting better.
04-12-08, 07:34 PM
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If you appear because you plead not guilty see if you can hook up with a para-legal. BUT remember that just because you pay some guy some money does not mean you will get off and may very well have to pay the fine as well. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THAT is the question that YOU must answer not anyone on this list.
The whole municipal court situation is currupt in New York City.
