Student arrested during Minneapolis CM found Not Guilty
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He ought to see about getting perjury charges filed against the police and sue the city for false arrest. This is totally unacceptable in America that the police can assault anyone they want, arrest them, force them to appear in court then lie about the basic facts of the case and totally get away with it.
This sounds like Nazi Germany reincarnate! I am totally outraged! |
Grass roots surveillance will be the end of lying tyrants.
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All three little piggies perjured themselves.
But of course, they'd have to sprout wings before they'd ever be charged. |
Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
(Post 6542572)
All three little piggies perjured themselves.
But of course, they'd have to sprout wings before they'd ever be charged. Congrats to Mr Ganely on his not guilty verdict! |
I seem to recall raw unedited video footage proved the innocence of another
CM arrest in NYC. I hope it did, it was on the NY Times website some time ago. The police provided an edited copy of the footage to the defendant but the defense found an original uncut copy. |
Originally Posted by SingingSabre
(Post 6542767)
I find it offensive that you refer to them as "piggies."
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This sounds like Nazi Germany reincarnate! |
Originally Posted by zeytoun
(Post 6542425)
Grass roots surveillance will be the end of lying tyrants.
George Orwell failed to foresee that the cameras "look both ways." |
Originally Posted by brotherj
(Post 6542226)
. . . This sounds like Nazi Germany reincarnate! I am totally outraged!
The cops here were thugs, but they were not Nazis. Don't demean the evil that was the Holocaust by comparing it to such relatively petty abuses. |
Originally Posted by Daily Commute
(Post 6545031)
The cops here were thugs, but they were not Nazis. Don't demean the evil that was the Holocaust by comparing it to such relatively petty abuses.
Again, WTF aren't these "officers" (using the term as loose as a $2 wh0re) being brought up on charges of lying during sworn testimony? |
task force was created to monitor the August 31 Critical Mass ride, which included three traffic enforcement officers, three intelligence officers in unmarked cars, and two officers in a state patrol helicopter.
Wow really they need all that for a CM ride? How much did that cost? As for the people lying on the stand I hope charges are filed at once. |
Originally Posted by wheel
(Post 6545570)
As for the people lying on the stand I hope charges are filed at once.
Greased pigs have nothing on these oinkers. (ya... that's right SingingSabre, I'm sick and tired of those tasked to "Serve and Protect" running around tasering folks for minor infractions and lying on the stand to cover their ample, donut-fed asses) |
Originally Posted by wheel
(Post 6545570)
task force was created to monitor the August 31 Critical Mass ride, which included three traffic enforcement officers, three intelligence officers in unmarked cars, and two officers in a state patrol helicopter.
Wow really they need all that for a CM ride? How much did that cost? As for the people lying on the stand I hope charges are filed at once. |
Originally Posted by Bikepacker67
(Post 6545057)
While I agree that comparing the actions of these POS with the Nazis is pure hyperbole, I'd hardly call perjury by those sworn to uphold the law, in order to convict an innocent man to prison qualifies as petty abuse.
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Originally Posted by brotherj
(Post 6542226)
He ought to see about getting perjury charges filed against the police and sue the city for false arrest. This is totally unacceptable in America that the police can assault anyone they want, arrest them, force them to appear in court then lie about the basic facts of the case and totally get away with it.
This sounds like Nazi Germany reincarnate! I am totally outraged! |
Originally Posted by Daily Commute
(Post 6546656)
Compared to murdering six million Jews (and starting a war that killed 100 million others), the abuse in this case was petty. Brotherj was the one who made the Nazi analogy, not me.
Pretty soon, the people were too frightened to do or say anything against the Nazi. Before long, the people were nearly powerless to do anything against the Nazi and the crimes being done were out of control. By that time, Lucifer was dancing with delight at a new level of inhumanity. |
Originally Posted by mike
(Post 6547661)
The Nazi didn't start out killing millions of Jews. It started with the German people too lazy or too apathetic to do anything against the nazi's small abuses while the abuses were still small.
Pretty soon, the people were too frightened to do or say anything against the Nazi. Before long, the people were nearly powerless to do anything against the Nazi and the crimes being done were out of control and Lucifer was dancing with delight at a new level of inhumanity. |
Originally Posted by Daily Commute
(Post 6547668)
This guy was acquitted after a fair trial in front of a fair jury. That ain't the start of a decent into a Nazi state.
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
(Post 6547668)
This guy was acquitted after a fair trial in front of a fair jury. That ain't the start of a decent into a Nazi state.
If I were to, for no good reason, mace you, beat the crap out of you, take you to court, claim under oath that you assaulted me, then subsequently be shown to be a liar due to video evidence, would you not want me brought up on charges? Would you not be able to successfully sue me? I think people need to divorce the definitions of "Nazism" and "Fascism" in their minds. Nazis are fascists, but fascists aren't necessarily Nazis. A nation with a legal system which allows certain people to be above the law does indeed exhibit one of the markings of fascism. (other markings of fascism include enormous military spending, repression of civil liberties, and rampant nationalism, by the way). |
I don't know if you realize how much harm you do to cyclist advocacy when you make specious Nazi analogies. Do you know if the victim sued the cops? I don't. People sue cops all the time, and they win those suits whenever they can convince a jury of non-cops that the cops acted illegally. That's far, far, far away from being a Nazi (or even a pre-Nazi) state.
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Originally Posted by tinydr
(Post 6548074)
the idea that the criminal justice system is fair is a nice thought, but shortsighted.
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
(Post 6548359)
Remember, this guy won his case. The US system clearly isn't perfect, but we do as good a job of holding the powerful accountable as anyone.
www.checkpointusa.org (Check the "TOPD Roadblock" link in the menu on the left for details) Now what was that again, about how the system holds those in power accountable for their illegal actions? |
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