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ilmooz 06-18-08 06:18 AM

Anti-Car Gone Too Far
 
The following story appeared in Sunday's Chicago Tribune:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4570734.story

What isn't mentioned in the article is the apparent motivation behind the killing. Tobolski and Scanlon, both bicyclists and environmental advocates, were acquainted with one another. Allegedly Tobolski observed Scanlon driving a car. Tobolski later confronted him about it which led to an arguement and ultimately the fatal stabbing of Scanlon.

st0ut 06-18-08 07:09 AM

Ummm then how do you kow about it? this is a non bike event otherwise.

dobber 06-18-08 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by ilmooz (Post 6900066)
Allegedly Tobolski observed Scanlon driving a car. Tobolski later confronted him about it which led to an arguement and ultimately the fatal stabbing of Scanlon.

So? All that tells me is Tobolski has a screw loose.

frymaster 06-18-08 10:27 AM

pro-car gone too far:

http://www.charlotte.com/breaking_ne...ry/675280.html

apparently this man wanted a car so badly he threatened a driver with a "semi-automatic handgun" and "took [the] vehicle by force"!

of course car jackings happen every day and no one really seems to pay a lot of attention. when two anti-car people get into a fatal altercation it's a big deal. when two pro-car people do the same it's just business as usual.

ilmooz 06-18-08 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by dobber (Post 6900487)
So? All that tells me is Tobolski has a screw loose.

Needless to say, if there was a "Loose Screw" forum this post would have ended up there.

ilmooz 06-18-08 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by frymaster (Post 6901612)
of course car jackings happen every day and no one really seems to pay a lot of attention. when two anti-car people get into a fatal altercation it's a big deal. when two pro-car people do the same it's just business as usual.

That's precisely why I posted it. There's also quite a difference between an armed robbery and murdering someone over environmental beliefs.

st0ut 06-18-08 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by ilmooz (Post 6902129)
That's precisely why I posted it. There's also quite a difference between an armed robbery and murdering someone over environmental beliefs.

Ever heard of ELF?

they do / did it all the time.

frymaster 06-18-08 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by st0ut (Post 6902660)
Ever heard of ELF?

they do / did it all the time.

er... no one has ever died of or from an elf crime.

KrisPistofferson 06-18-08 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by st0ut (Post 6902660)
Ever heard of ELF?

they do / did it all the time.

Then there should be a long list of obituaries for you to link to, right?

HoustonB 06-18-08 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by st0ut (Post 6902660)
Ever heard of ELF?

they do / did it all the time.

"all the time" yikes, you must be much better informed than the rest of us! I would truly appreciate it if you could get me even just one link to a news report of people actually dieing.

The Earth Liberation Front (ELF) are truly evil - I even read that some of the failed property businesses in the North West have burned down their unsold developments to claim on insurance after making it look like the ELF did it. But you and I know that it was really the ELF doing a double-bluff. :rolleyes:

beerfilter 06-18-08 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by frymaster (Post 6901612)
of course car jackings happen every day and no one really seems to pay a lot of attention. when two anti-car people get into a fatal altercation it's a big deal. when two pro-car people do the same it's just business as usual.


Dog bites man : Not News

Man bites dog : News

frymaster 06-18-08 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by beerfilter (Post 6903430)
Dog bites man : Not News

Man bites dog : News

moral of the story: dogs and drivers are violent.

st0ut 06-18-08 06:44 PM

I stand coerrectd .. No deaths associated with ELF my apolgies sorry.

crhilton 06-19-08 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by frymaster (Post 6901612)
pro-car gone too far:

http://www.charlotte.com/breaking_ne...ry/675280.html

apparently this man wanted a car so badly he threatened a driver with a "semi-automatic handgun" and "took [the] vehicle by force"!

of course car jackings happen every day and no one really seems to pay a lot of attention. when two anti-car people get into a fatal altercation it's a big deal. when two pro-car people do the same it's just business as usual.

Yes, when people kill each other over greed during a theft gone bad it's not news.

When people kill each other over idealism it's news.

It's a conspiracy!


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