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Rant: Why are Hartford CT roadies such jerks?

Old 07-14-08, 08:05 PM
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sir, thank you for posting, but I am entitled to share an opinion. I do not care to engage in a nit- pick with you. You are attempting to put me on the defensive.

I am always amazed at those who attempt to take litte snippets and turn them into tangents, ignoring the entire point of the post.

I am trying to illustrate a scenario, so that hopefully others may learn from it. Otherwise why would I bother to write all this, as I know many are just "trollers" on the web.

The guy from Boston hit it right on the head, IMO. And I find the attitude with other cyclists there to be a lot more friendly than here, sorry if I offended any locals.

Please re-read the post I put in about a half hour ago, with pamphlet advice from the State of CT.
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Old 07-14-08, 08:40 PM
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what is the significance of that geologic feature?
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Old 07-15-08, 03:03 AM
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It's actually a molehill.
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I agree with the OP about roadies passing too close.
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Old 07-15-08, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Allister View Post
It's actually a molehill.
Well played. Very well played.
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Old 07-15-08, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by IknowURider View Post
You are missing my point. I wear spandex, a helmet and ride a road bike as well. I ride daily. This is not about animosity toward road cyclists.

The point was, it is very dangerous and inconsiderate to suddenly come up behind someone and startle them. Yes I was pissed, because the guy intentionally startled the sh-t out of me.

The proper way to pass someone in a bike lane is to whistle, toot horn, or yell "coming up behind you on your left".
If someone can suddenly come up behind you and startle you, you ain't paying enough attention to what is going on around you. You should be pissed at yourself, not the other guy.
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Old 07-15-08, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Erick L View Post
I agree with the OP about roadies passing too close.
It's not only about passing too close, it's about bad intention. Pass someone too close, startle them, and you can easily endanger yourself. Startle the rider, he/she swerves into you, you lock handlebars, and both of you either go into the ditch, off the cliff, or swerve out of control into traffic.

To the guy who has an issue about giving someone twelve feet of room to pass. I don't think that amount of distance, (or maybe ten feet), is at all unreasonable.

Consider that if you are the rider making the passing move, setting it all up safely to do might take about 8 seconds of your precious time to, for ex., maybe let that truck pass and everything to quiet down before you leave the bike lane and head into the traffic lane.

To me, being in such a hurry like this is in the same mentality as the driver who cuts you off and blares his horn to race to the stop light 100 yards ahead. THINK.
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Old 07-15-08, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by IknowURider View Post
To the guy who has an issue about giving someone twelve feet of room to pass. I don't think that amount of distance, (or maybe ten feet), is at all unreasonable.
3' is more than enough (in fact, that's the law in many states).

If you don't like being surprised, learn to use your f-ing mirror. You'd have a better view if you took that giant chip off your shoulder.
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Originally Posted by Pedaleur View Post
If you don't like being surprised, learn to use your f-ing mirror.
Or perhaps, don't assume that passing cyclists won't shout in your ear. Something like that's totally unnecessary and done only to be a prick. I don't get why the OP is getting so dumped on in this thread.
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Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
Or perhaps, don't assume that passing cyclists won't shout in your ear. Something like that's totally unnecessary and done only to be a prick. I don't get why the OP is getting so dumped on in this thread.
Perhaps because he comes off like a danger to himself and others, due to his apparent lack of situational awareness, bike handling skills, and 'the world is out to get me' attitude.

1. If someone can come up from behind without you noticing, startling you in the process, you lack situational awareness.

2. If you think you need twelve feet of clearance by people passing you, as well as a warning, otherwise you might cause a crash, you lack bike handling skills.

3. If you think you have superpowers to glean that someone's 'intent' was to screw with you, when they were probably just trying to be friendly and assumed you were a competent rider, you have mental health issues that are better addressed by professionals, rather than in an internet forum.
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Old 07-15-08, 09:31 AM
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How long will this thread go on? Just chill.
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OP is obviously full of rage but he don't want to nit pic
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Old 07-15-08, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by frymaster View Post

if you really want to put thm in their place, though, here's a sure fire plan:
fake pedal on the POS steath electric bike as you pass them on the hill in your full Fred kit.

The question mark appears over their head in a matter of seconds
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Old 07-15-08, 09:54 AM
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Shouting "how are you doing" as they ride by??

If somebody ever pulls that stunt with me I'll give 'em what's coming to them. I don't put up with that crap.

Sounds like it might have been some kind of gang initiation thing.
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Old 07-15-08, 10:09 AM
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The gang may be reading this!! :0
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Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
Perhaps because he comes off like a danger to himself and others, due to his apparent lack of situational awareness, bike handling skills, and 'the world is out to get me' attitude.

1. If someone can come up from behind without you noticing, startling you in the process, you lack situational awareness.

2. If you think you need twelve feet of clearance by people passing you, as well as a warning, otherwise you might cause a crash, you lack bike handling skills.

3. If you think you have superpowers to glean that someone's 'intent' was to screw with you, when they were probably just trying to be friendly and assumed you were a competent rider, you have mental health issues that are better addressed by professionals, rather than in an internet forum.


I think you need to stop trying to instigate. You make it sound like you are perfect, and your riding skills in every situation are better than everyone else's. I highly doubt that. This attitude contributed to the mix when Critical Mass started that riot.

Here's an article I just found. I am obviously not alone in my sentiments. See number 5 on right column.
maybe you should contact the author to "set him straight' too?

https://www.newsobserver.com/248/story/1086243.html
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Originally Posted by IknowURider View Post
I think you need to stop trying to instigate. You make it sound like you are perfect, and your riding skills in every situation are better than everyone else's. I highly doubt that. This attitude contributed to the mix when Critical Mass started that riot.

Here's an article I just found. I am obviously not alone in my sentiments. See number 5 on right column.
maybe you should contact the author to "set him straight' too?

https://www.newsobserver.com/248/story/1086243.html
Uh, did you happen to notice that this was advice given to cyclists when dealing with pedestrians... Frankly I tend to agree with Chipcom... if you are not aware enough to know another cyclist is coming up on you... maybe you need to change your habits. As they say in the military... keep that head on a swivel.

Frankly I quite enjoy "zoning out" on longer rides (not really possible on commutes), but I still manage to be aware of other cyclists in front of and behind me...

Yeah, it's somewhat rude behavior that is being exhibited toward you, but someone can only do that to you if you are clueless.
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OP:
Four days later and you are still peeved by a passing incident. You've got some issues.

Personally, I don't buy your story. I think the guy passed you cleanly, outside the bike lane but not 12' away, said "hi" as he was passing. You weren't paying attention and it startled you. I doubt you are very comfortable controlling your bike. I'd even question whether you weren't wearing headphones or something, or even if you had a tail light on your "dark, foggy night".

You do realize that 12' would be riding right next to the road median, a full car lane width away from you? That's excessive. And how in the world would you pull someone over to "have a chat"? There's no way I'm going to stop for a stranger at 10pm on a dark, foggy night; cyclist or not. That's just tough guy internet talk you are engaging in.
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Old 07-15-08, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by IknowURider View Post
I think you need to stop trying to instigate. You make it sound like you are perfect, and your riding skills in every situation are better than everyone else's. I highly doubt that. This attitude contributed to the mix when Critical Mass started that riot.

Here's an article I just found. I am obviously not alone in my sentiments. See number 5 on right column.
maybe you should contact the author to "set him straight' too?

https://www.newsobserver.com/248/story/1086243.html
I think you need to get a clue, noobsauce. Lots of folks on this forum have lots of experience you might learn from...if you get the chip off your shoulder and the jam outta your ears. You want someone to hold your hand and sing kumbuya...go see a priest, all you get from me is what I think, based upon my 40+ years of riding without becoming a spot on the pavement. Don't like what you hear, put me on ignore. HTH HAND
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CT has a reputation as being a pretty high-strung place. This thread certainly demonstrates that point admirably.

(Bear in mind, OP: chipcom can control cars with his mind.)
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There's a similar thread going on in Commuting were a Poster also expressed annoyance at people who passed without announcing.

Some folks agreed and others didn't.

Some posters made the case that "On your left" seemed to startle a substantial number of riders and pedestrians, sometimes causing them to swerve, jump or behave unpredictably. Some posters said they preferred to call out to riders who seemed erratic but not to riders who seemed steady and aware, or called out "Passing" instead of "Left", thinking that the word "left" caused people to bob left. Some said they called out a greeting as they passed… "Evening", "How's it going", that sort of thing.

Maybe your passer was some sort of passive/aggressive psycho. I'll never know.

I do get concerned by people I see all over the place — but especially on the road — who carry around rage over minor or imagined slights, and I think that's what a lot of folks are reacting to here.

You will encounter annoying people in this world. Whether or not they annoy you is entirely up to you.
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OP, please review the various posts Chipcom has made over the years. You will realize that he is one of the more thoughtful and careful posters when giving advice. You simply need to chill out and realize it's time to get over it.
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OP, please review the various posts Chipcom has made over the years. You will realize that he is one of the more thoughtful and careful posters when giving advice. You simply need to chill out and realize it's time to get over it.
Who are you and why are you kissing my butt? I am neither thoughtful nor helpful, I am just the klass klown...but I do have telepathic powers. At this moment you are dancing the chicken dance and don't know why. Don't fight it, you are under my power.

Now if I could only make it work on cute gals, I wouldn't have to be making ugly dudes like you do the chicken dance.
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