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Rant: Why are Hartford CT roadies such jerks?

Old 07-11-08, 09:29 PM
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Rant: Why are Hartford CT roadies such jerks?

I hate this:

Hartford CT men in general seem to have their heads firmly embedded in their behinds, road cyclists here are even worse.

There seems to be a game of sorts here in friendly CT:

You are going along solo and don't happen to be cranking way hard, maybe you are just coasting, taking a breather after that last hill climb.

Another guy on a road bike passes you and of course you don't hear him coming or see him in your mirror because he's probably been sneaking up on you in your blind spot directly behind you. It's 10 PM, a very dark foggy night.

He waits till he's right in your ear, then makes the sudden "HEY! How's it going" ? but doesn't wait for a reply, just keeps zipping along.

If you really cared and wanted to chat wouldn't you slow down and ride along side to exchange pleasantries?

Tonight it was "ARE YOU OK?" like this other jerkoff thought just because I wasn't doing 25 MPH down this straightaway I was hurt or something. This a "vogue" stretch where all the carbon fiber geeks need to be seen.

The next time someone does this I am going to pull them over

1. "excuse me, can we talk for a second?'
(Pulls over)

2. "How long have you been road cycling?
(Oh 42 years, won the Tour 5 times, why, what's the problem?)

3. "Great, Pal, good for you!!! nice bike, BTW. but has it ever occured to you that you may startle a rider by doing that, and cause him or her to crash? Do you do this to everyone you pass?

(Oh whatever, blah blah blah, Hahaha etc)

4. I Whip out my boat airhorn, stuff it right in your face, emit loud blast

5. "oh sorry didn't mean to startle you , you D-bag. Are you ok now? "


So be nice out there, give a yell. I pass people all the time, but let them know 30 yards back with a friendly holler or a toot on my whistle.

Don't pass other riders two inches away, like right in their ear. WTF is wrong with you, do you have some inferiority complex or something? After all it was pitch black out also.

Do this to a guy who is riding no-hands for a second, opening his water bottle, and you will probably send him to the hospital . He's probably got three kids at home.

I hope you read this, you freaking loser.
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Old 07-11-08, 09:35 PM
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meh. poser roadies are like that everywhere. yeah, I'm talking to YOU, d-bag.


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Old 07-11-08, 10:11 PM
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Wow, this is some interesting animosity. If we cyclists can't get along, how do we expect the cooperation of other road users?
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Old 07-11-08, 10:21 PM
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Huh, road cyclists acknowledged your existance? Seems out of character.
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Old 07-12-08, 12:15 AM
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Get over it.
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Old 07-12-08, 05:29 AM
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Rant-Why is Iknowurider so bent out of shape over something so trivial?

You have an irrational deep seated hatred of guys in spandex. Anything the riders said, or didn't say would have sent you into the conniptions you experienced.

New meds, maybe?
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Old 07-12-08, 08:09 AM
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You are missing my point. I wear spandex, a helmet and ride a road bike as well. I ride daily. This is not about animosity toward road cyclists.

The point was, it is very dangerous and inconsiderate to suddenly come up behind someone and startle them. Yes I was pissed, because the guy intentionally startled the sh-t out of me.

The proper way to pass someone in a bike lane is to whistle, toot horn, or yell "coming up behind you on your left".
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Old 07-12-08, 08:34 AM
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Consider another alternative; they say nothing and keep going as if you were no more than a dead opossum in the road. Just relax and enjoy the ride and ignore them; everyone has different personality.
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Old 07-12-08, 08:57 AM
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You can always gauge how startled the author of a rant was by the length and intensity of the tangent he's gone off on. Hope you're not typing this on your laptop from the ER.
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If it were me passing you, the silence would be a compliment on your riding.

If you were weaving about, out of position, or otherwise looking clueless, I would sing out with a "Passing on your left!" If, however, you seem steady, I will simply exchange a bit of chat at low volume on the way past you.

Life is good. Don't ruin it with self-created problems. And give up on the attitudes that would have you "pulling them over."
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Old 07-12-08, 09:21 AM
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Yeah, I think you may feel this way because you've assumed they do this to you intentionally. I'd like to believe it's an honest mistake. At least they're saying "Hello" or asking if you need help, rather than saying "Get out of my way" or passing you without offering help.

Relax and enjoy the ride.
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Old 07-12-08, 09:46 AM
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my theory is to just leave the roadies alone. sure, i'll call them "gel-eaters" or whatever under my breath if they act rude to me or folks around them but i'm not going to get all up in their face about it.

if you really want to put thm in their place, though, here's a sure fire plan:

1. get a gym membership. do killer intervals all winter. lots of squats too. put the rhr down and that v02max way up for spring.
2. get a killer steel road bike. spray paint it matte blue or something and scuff up the spray paint. put some stickers on it and a front mud guard made out of cardboard.
3. buy a hockey helmet at a garage sale. wear it.
4. throw on a pair of jeans and tee shirt and yr helmet and hop on your clark kent ride. take it out to the carbon promonade and let 'em have it. blow past all those roadies still trying to get their spring legs.

much more satisfying than yelling at them and better for you too.
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Old 07-12-08, 09:50 AM
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Yup, down here in friendly ol' Texas, when a roadie zips past someone, he's obligated to give multiple warnings and then pull up alongside you and carry on a chat about things back home for a few minutes before flying off again. Or maybe not.

I would interpret the "Hey how's it going" and "Are you okay" as generic greetings, and not necessarily designed to probe into your welfare.

I have "snuck up" on many pedestrians. This involves the pedestrians being totally oblivious to their surroundings due to distracting conversations, headphones, or whatever. I could have tap danced up behind them and smacked 'em with a tire tool and they'd never know what hit them. It's always seemed to me like an invitation to get mugged.
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Old 07-12-08, 12:21 PM
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I may edit the original post a bit to be more clear. Last night I was still pretty pissed. The road was noisy, it was pitch black. Generally, I am aware of vehicles etc. behind me, as I do check my mirror frequently, but not every 5 seconds. You wouldn't tend to do that on a long stretch like this.

It just seems to be a frequent game around here, this has happened before. I was not weaving, I was going in a straight line in the dead center of the bike lane, just not going 40 MPH like he was.

You had to be in my shoes to understand this one. Again the guy got right in my face and blurted it out with a sneer, the intention was more passive-agressive than anything.

To the guy who says I'm lucky I'm not typing this from the ER: yes thank you, I could easily have been startled into a crash.

To the guy who says I could be a "dead possum" , Yes I could be, so could you. Words are one thing, intention and action are another. I have no problem with being passed silently, and not conversing, just an "on your left" , honk on the horn , etc. I carry a cell phone. If I need help I will ask for it.

To the guy from Texas: No problems here exchanging "hey nice day for a ride, my name's Joe" and a friendly wave. I have many roadie friends here who are more like this. Sure, hang along side for a minute or two, no big deal, but yes, thank you for recognizing the need to make yourself appear in a more gentle, non-violent fashion.

If you pass a rider without any advance warning whatsoever, for crissakes give him 12 feet berth or so. wait 'till there are no cars behind you, then pass The rider you are passing doesn't need to read your serial number.


It's like stalking up on a deer hunter and popping out like a jack-in-the box. Just not too smart. I could have accidentally swerved into him, knocking him into the path of an SUV doing 50.
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Old 07-12-08, 09:47 PM
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12 feet? WTF

I can't get 12 feet out of a tractor trailer. Nor do I need it, really.

Lower your expectations.
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Old 07-12-08, 10:14 PM
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whatever, man, I'm not interested in being goaded into a nit-pick.
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Old 07-13-08, 12:34 PM
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Sounds to me like you need to learn how to use your mirror...
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Originally Posted by Pedaleur View Post
Sounds to me like you need to learn how to use your mirror...
The OP said in post #14:

I do check my mirror frequently, but not every 5 seconds. You wouldn't tend to do that on a long stretch like this.
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Old 07-13-08, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
The OP said in post #14:
Again, sir, I am not interested in engaging in a nit- pick. (Thank you appricimus) And again, the mirror usage was not the point of this whole post. Do you check your mirror as you are reaching down for your water bottle? I also see plenty of roadies who don't even use mirrors.

What this rider did was attempt to startle me on purpose, under the guise of "good guy" . You had to be there to see how he mouthed his words, how loud this was, his facial expressions etc. Unfortunately, judging scenarios like this over the internet in written form is pretty much impossible.


It was classic passive-aggressive behavior: You try to irritate someone to elicit a response, or feel in control. I'm sorry, but I had a right to be a little pissed initially. I'm sorry if the initial post was so long and "boring" to some, but I felt the need to fully explain what happened. If you don't agree with what I've said, then stop following this thread, it's that simple.

But in retrospect, I do say a prayer for this man, he will get what he's looking for eventually down the road, somehwere else, with someone else. But next time someone pulls this crap I may ask them to stop, turn around, and we will have a nice friendly discussion.

To me, this was the same as the SUV blaring their horn right behind you as you obey traffic laws, riding dead center, unwavering, in the bike lane.

Somwhere here, I do have a printed "rules of the road" for cyclists for CT. It talks to the cyclist about being aware of other riders inability to hear and maybe even see you coming from behind. I will post this ASAP. maybe it will help prevent a crash somewhere.
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Old 07-14-08, 01:26 PM
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A simple bike bell would solve this. the problem seems to be that roadies are allergic to bells.
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A simple bike bell would solve this. the problem seems to be that roadies are allergic to bells.

No, the problem seems to be people riding along in a daze. You're on a road, where you get passed all the time by cars. I've never heard of anyone freaking out because a car passed them without yelling "on your left".

If I knew in advance that a rider I was closing on was that jumpy I'd rather just blow by them than say something and give them a chance to do who-knows-what.
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No, the problem seems to be people riding along in a daze. You're on a road, where you get passed all the time by cars. I've never heard of anyone freaking out because a car passed them without yelling "on your left".

If I knew in advance that a rider I was closing on was that jumpy I'd rather just blow by them than say something and give them a chance to do who-knows-what.
Isn't the point though that the roadie passed close and yelled with an intent to startle? That's the OP's impression, though none of us can verify exactly what the roadie's intent was.

I don't really see any reason to doubt the OP's story. Cyclists can be jerk to other cyclists sometimes too.
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motor vehicles you can hear coming ~ you are forewarned by the engine / road noise (at least if you're not wearing an ipod with heavy metal turned up to 11); cyclists approach with little sound or warning and it can in fact be startling when you are passed.

If you don't think it's extremely annoying and potentially unsafe to be passed too close and without warning by cyclists, I suggest you spend an hour or two on a MUP as a pedestrian.

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Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
Isn't the point though that the roadie passed close and yelled with an intent to startle? That's the OP's impression, though none of us can verify exactly what the roadie's intent was.

I don't really see any reason to doubt the OP's story. Cyclists can be jerk to other cyclists sometimes too.

Thank you sir, I see we are starting to get a few people with some common sense who actually read my post, everyone else jumps on the defensive FU2 bandwagon.

Here is the exact wording from the pamplet issued by the Capitol Region Council of Governments Connecticut Bicycle Coalition and posted in every bike shop, available free. I will happily send you a copy.

Page two:

" Warn others when approaching : Bicyclists must yield to pedestrians. Be courteous by warning others with a ring of your bell or a friendly greeting (note; the illustration shows a rider coming up behind, issuing the warning from behind... Allow plenty of space when passing.

Great pamphlet. One side is for the motorist, the other is for the cyclist. you flip it over to deal with each scenario. I have handed some of these out on occasion.

Tonight, there was a young oriental girl talking on a cell phone on the shoulder of the same road. it was daylight. she was so absorbed in what she was doing, she weaved into the lane, where cars were doing 50 MPH. I tooted on my police/sports whistle from 300 yards away. Since a higher frequency sound like a good whistle carries further and faster, she easily heard me with 150 yards to spare and got out of the bike lane. A potential collision easily avoided for 3.99.

Prayers of ahimsa to you all.
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Originally Posted by IknowURider View Post
You are missing my point. I wear spandex, a helmet and ride a road bike as well. I ride daily. This is not about animosity toward road cyclists.

The point was, it is very dangerous and inconsiderate to suddenly come up behind someone and startle them. Yes I was pissed, because the guy intentionally startled the sh-t out of me.

The proper way to pass someone in a bike lane is to whistle, toot horn, or yell "coming up behind you on your left".
i think you are over reacting and possible just a little defencive
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