Take the Lane Websites References?
07-18-08, 01:29 PM
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Take the Lane Websites References?
I went on vacation with some extended family recently, and I went on many bike rides with my family and others. Conversations about it later didn't go well--I was heavily criticized for my bike riding technique of taking the lane. I couldn't believe some of the things I was hearing--my own family telling me that they hate cyclists who ride on the roads. One of them said laughed about running them off the road.
So, I was looking on line for an article or two to forward to them. I chose not to argue about it on vacation, even though they knew my disgust, but I'd like to inform them about safe bike riding. Are there good sources here to show the law and logic about riding on the roads?
Thanks!
So, I was looking on line for an article or two to forward to them. I chose not to argue about it on vacation, even though they knew my disgust, but I'd like to inform them about safe bike riding. Are there good sources here to show the law and logic about riding on the roads?
Thanks!
07-18-08, 01:36 PM
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Two of the more famous but it involves buying a book or two
https://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/ - UK government cycling manual
https://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/vehicular.pdf
https://www.johnforester.com/ - J Forester's book "Effective Cycling"
https://bicyclesafe.com/ - website that could be useful
edit: always take wiki-let's make up crap-pedia with a pinch of salt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicular_cycling
https://www.google.com/search?num=100...icular+cycling - this is a controversial subject as many people, drivers and riders, feel that roadways and users should be either segregated or even completely sepparate. Others feel that the safest way for people to use roads is for everyone to behave in the same predictable manner, usually taught through driver/rider ed.
https://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/ - UK government cycling manual
https://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/vehicular.pdf
https://www.johnforester.com/ - J Forester's book "Effective Cycling"
https://bicyclesafe.com/ - website that could be useful
edit: always take wiki-let's make up crap-pedia with a pinch of salt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicular_cycling
https://www.google.com/search?num=100...icular+cycling - this is a controversial subject as many people, drivers and riders, feel that roadways and users should be either segregated or even completely sepparate. Others feel that the safest way for people to use roads is for everyone to behave in the same predictable manner, usually taught through driver/rider ed.
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Recommended reading for all cyclists - Cyclecraft - Effective Cycling
Condor Cycles - quite possibly the best bike shop in London
Don't run red lights, wear a helmet, use hand signals, get some cycle lights(front and rear) and, FFS, don't run red lights!
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Recommended reading for all cyclists - Cyclecraft - Effective Cycling
Condor Cycles - quite possibly the best bike shop in London
Don't run red lights, wear a helmet, use hand signals, get some cycle lights(front and rear) and, FFS, don't run red lights!
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07-18-08, 02:22 PM
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If you ride in the Cleveland Metro Parks they better learn in a hurry to take the lane or the,ll be playing a harp.
Noteably the first blind curve on Valley Parkway south of the boat dock area.
These morons will try a pass you on this curve and run you off the road into a dirt culvert if you dont ride in the center of the lane.
Last Sat.I took the lane and this clown passed,(on a blind curve)into the opposite lane and nearly hit an oncoming car by 3 ft. He,s in a big f,n hurry to die.
Lately the ranger patrol seems to be a bit absent down there with regards to traffic.We,ll remember this next tax levy time Metropark system.
Noteably the first blind curve on Valley Parkway south of the boat dock area.
These morons will try a pass you on this curve and run you off the road into a dirt culvert if you dont ride in the center of the lane.
Last Sat.I took the lane and this clown passed,(on a blind curve)into the opposite lane and nearly hit an oncoming car by 3 ft. He,s in a big f,n hurry to die.
Lately the ranger patrol seems to be a bit absent down there with regards to traffic.We,ll remember this next tax levy time Metropark system.
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I went on vacation with some extended family recently, and I went on many bike rides with my family and others. Conversations about it later didn't go well--I was heavily criticized for my bike riding technique of taking the lane. I couldn't believe some of the things I was hearing--my own family telling me that they hate cyclists who ride on the roads. One of them said laughed about running them off the road.
So, I was looking on line for an article or two to forward to them. I chose not to argue about it on vacation, even though they knew my disgust, but I'd like to inform them about safe bike riding. Are there good sources here to show the law and logic about riding on the roads?
So, I was looking on line for an article or two to forward to them. I chose not to argue about it on vacation, even though they knew my disgust, but I'd like to inform them about safe bike riding. Are there good sources here to show the law and logic about riding on the roads?
07-18-08, 05:01 PM
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Cyclist's Eye View: Driving Your Bicycle in Traffic, is a 20 min video often used in the League of American Bicyclists Road 1 course. The three segment online version can be viewed at:
https://www.youtube.com/profile_video...carrigan88&p=r
Here is a link to a 36 page downloadable pamphlet Safe Bicycling in Chicago by Dave Glowacz.
https://egov.cityofchicago.org/webpor..._Chicago_1.pdf
Dave Glowacz is the author Urban Bikers' Tricks & Tips: Low-Tech & No-Tech Ways to Find, Ride, & Keep a Bicycle. He has written numerous safe bicycling and traffic cycling booklets which are distributed by state and city departments of transportation. Area titles include Safe Bicycling in Chicago , Safe Bicycling in Illinois and Safe Bicycling in Indiana.
This video titled Rights and Duties of Cyclists has excellent examples of how to drive your bicycle safely in traffic. It was produced by League of American Bicyclist Cycling Instructors Dan Gutierrez and Brian DeSousa. Play time: 4:20 min:sec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU4nKKq02BU&feature=user
Bicycling Street Smarts by John S. Allan contains information on how to ride a bike safely in traffic. The on line version is at https://bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/index.htm
[edit: added this Bicyclists Guide from The League of Illinois Bicyclists https://bikelib.org/guides/illinoisbicyclistguide.pdf ]
https://www.youtube.com/profile_video...carrigan88&p=r
Here is a link to a 36 page downloadable pamphlet Safe Bicycling in Chicago by Dave Glowacz.
https://egov.cityofchicago.org/webpor..._Chicago_1.pdf
Dave Glowacz is the author Urban Bikers' Tricks & Tips: Low-Tech & No-Tech Ways to Find, Ride, & Keep a Bicycle. He has written numerous safe bicycling and traffic cycling booklets which are distributed by state and city departments of transportation. Area titles include Safe Bicycling in Chicago , Safe Bicycling in Illinois and Safe Bicycling in Indiana.
This video titled Rights and Duties of Cyclists has excellent examples of how to drive your bicycle safely in traffic. It was produced by League of American Bicyclist Cycling Instructors Dan Gutierrez and Brian DeSousa. Play time: 4:20 min:sec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU4nKKq02BU&feature=user
Bicycling Street Smarts by John S. Allan contains information on how to ride a bike safely in traffic. The on line version is at https://bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/index.htm
[edit: added this Bicyclists Guide from The League of Illinois Bicyclists https://bikelib.org/guides/illinoisbicyclistguide.pdf ]
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But the interesting thing is does such a recommendation exist from any state agency such as a DMV?
07-18-08, 05:51 PM
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https://www.dot.state.pa.us/Internet/...ments?OpenForm
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Many states, including PA, have adopted parts of John Allen's Bicycling Street Smarts for their Bicycle Driver's manuals.
https://www.dot.state.pa.us/Internet/...ments?OpenForm
https://www.dot.state.pa.us/Internet/...ments?OpenForm
07-18-08, 06:56 PM
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Every person riding a bicycle on a roadway shall be granted all the rights and shall be subject to all the duties applicable to the driver of a vehicle ....
Sec. 11 1505. Position of bicycles and motorized pedal cycles on roadways.
Riding on roadways and bicycle paths.
Riding on roadways and bicycle paths.
(a) Any person operating a bicycle or motorized pedal cycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride as close as practicable and safe to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway except under the following situations:
1. When overtaking and passing another bicycle, motorized pedal cycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction; or
2. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway; or
3. When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, parked or moving vehicles, bicycles, motorized pedal cycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes that make it unsafe to continue along the right hand curb or edge. For purposes of this subsection, a ""substandard width lane"" means a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle or motorized pedal cycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
4. When approaching a place where a right turn is authorized.
It's easier in Texas, where they explicitly specify a substandard width lane as anything less than 14 feet. The Texas code reads:
Sec. 551.103. Operation on Roadway.
(a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a person operating a bicycle on a roadway who is moving slower than the other traffic on the roadway shall ride as near as practicable to the right curb or edge of the roadway, unless:
(1) the person is passing another vehicle moving in the same direction;
(2) the person is preparing to turn left at an intersection or onto a private road or driveway; or
(3) a condition on or of the roadway, including a fixed or moving object, parked or moving vehicle, pedestrian, animal, or surface hazard prevents the person from safely riding next to the right curb or edge of the roadway.
(4) the person is operating a bicycle in an outside lane that is:
(1) the person is passing another vehicle moving in the same direction;
(2) the person is preparing to turn left at an intersection or onto a private road or driveway; or
(3) a condition on or of the roadway, including a fixed or moving object, parked or moving vehicle, pedestrian, animal, or surface hazard prevents the person from safely riding next to the right curb or edge of the roadway.
(4) the person is operating a bicycle in an outside lane that is:
(A) less than 14 feet in width and does not have a designated bicycle lane adjacent to that lane; or
(B) too narrow for a bicycle and a motor vehicle to safely travel side by side.
(B) too narrow for a bicycle and a motor vehicle to safely travel side by side.
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Relatives telling you how much they enjoy running cyclists off the road?
RELATIVES?
They'd know the feeling of a fat back tire upside their skulls....
Yeah, I'm feisty -- I grew up w/ two older brothers the size of Hulk Hogan, and I'd take either one of 'em on in a second. (Bigger bodies have bigger weak points.)
Seriously, I'd be the source of an intra-family feud over that....
RELATIVES?
They'd know the feeling of a fat back tire upside their skulls....
Yeah, I'm feisty -- I grew up w/ two older brothers the size of Hulk Hogan, and I'd take either one of 'em on in a second. (Bigger bodies have bigger weak points.)
Seriously, I'd be the source of an intra-family feud over that....
