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Old 08-10-17, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel4
So tell all about how you ninja salmon without a helmet.
What in the world are you talking about?

Ninja: I run 300+ watts front and rear, day and night.

Salmon: On very rare occasions I ride against traffic, which is an entirely different set of skills and awareness none of which are the focus of my OP. I would not recommend running a red light AND cycling contraflow at the same time BECAUSE...how would you KNOW the light is red?

Helmet: I wear one. WITH a mirror and no ear buds. What do you think the video camera is attached to?

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Salmon: On very rare occasions I ride against traffic, which is an entirely different set of skills and awareness none of which are the focus of my OP. I would not recommend running a red light AND cycling contraflow at the same time BECAUSE...how would you KNOW the light is red?
Forgot what is in your tutorial? 2:10, 5:10. 5:50. 8:40. (Including riding on trolley right of way.)

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Originally Posted by mr_bill
Forgot what is in your tutorial? 2:10, 5:10. 5:50. 8:40. (Including riding on trolley right of way.)

-mr. bill
I admitted to doing it on rare occasions. Should have added "and for very short distances" as well. I stick by my statement that contraflow takes an entire added skill set to pull off. Riding contraflow for any length of time on narrow, busy city streets adds another layer or two of things to know, do, and not do.

My current commute, which is about the safest I have enjoyed in many years (hence, no videos), includes roughly 5 blocks of contraflow through a quiet neighborhood on the way to work, and 2 blocks on the return trip. Much safer than taking the busy parallel boulevard and two crazy intersections IF you know and abide by the contraflow rules: Rule #1 is SLOW DOWN A LOT! #2 Treat every intersection as a stop sign. #3 assume a car will come racing around each corner from every direction. #4 Yield to everything and everybody. There are more, but you get the jist. It CAN be done without p!$$!ng anyone off.
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You repeatedly RECOMMENDED red light running salmoning. A considerable fraction of your tutorial!

"Save a couple of seconds anyways."

(FWIW, if you salmon daily that is not a rare occasion.)

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Originally Posted by mr_bill
You repeatedly RECOMMENDED red light running salmoning. A considerable fraction of your tutorial!

"Save a couple of seconds anyways."

(FWIW, if you salmon daily that is not a rare occasion.)

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Daily (5 days a week) about 1/50 of my morning commute lengthwise is salmon which is roughtly 1/15 of my A.M. trip timewise. Return trip is much less. Other than that, I never salmon. And I don't own a car, remember? So I stand by "rarely" salmon for very short distances. All three of Webster's definitions apply!

WEBSTER:
Definition of rarely
  1. 1 : not often : seldom
  2. 2 : with rare skill : excellently
  3. 3 : in an extreme or exceptional manner
Ta-Daaaaaa!

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Residential streets don't count for much, I agree. It is actually LEGAL in areas of Vancouver, where I have done it myself. A few streets here I will do a couple blocks also. For red lights with no cross traffic, I always do the P maneuver.
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike
What in the world are you talking about?

Ninja: I run 300+ watts front and rear, day and night.

Salmon: On very rare occasions I ride against traffic, which is an entirely different set of skills and awareness none of which are the focus of my OP. I would not recommend running a red light AND cycling contraflow at the same time BECAUSE...how would you KNOW the light is red?

Helmet: I wear one. WITH a mirror and no ear buds. What do you think the video camera is attached to?

Go troll elsewhere.
Don't pay me no never mind. That's your business.

Your lecture should be directed at those lecturing how safely they ninja salmon helmetless for years and years because they are good at it.

In another thread I already stated a bad cyclist only risks himself. A bad motorist risks everybody.
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In another thread I already stated a bad cyclist only risks himself. A bad motorist risks everybody.
Sadly, not true.
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Originally Posted by JoeyBike
Ta-Daaaaaa!
The patient who says they "rarely" drink.

Only five three-martini lunches each week, and only actually drinking those martinis for fifteen minutes during lunch.

"Ta-Daaaaaa!"

Frankly I'm stumped about the five blocks of one-way between City Park and Frenchmen Street you HAVE to take. But hey, you can fool some of the people....

FWIW, I've very recently "salmoned" in Amsterdam and Cambridge (our fair city) MA.


But one thing is clear - you are NOT a ninja.

Because NOBODY who has ever ridden a bike, at night, without lights, has lived to tell the tale.

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Originally Posted by mr_bill
Frankly I'm stumped about the five blocks of one-way between City Park and Frenchmen Street you HAVE to take. But hey, you can fool some of the people....
Here ya go wiseguy. Only 4 blocks. So i even drink more rarely than I thought!

If I see three moving cars on this stretch in a week, that's plenty. Everybody is at school and work by 9:30am. I treat every intersection like a stop sign when flying contra. And actually come very close to stopping!

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Is Kermit scary?

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Originally Posted by mr_bill
Is Kermit scary?

-mr. bill
Don't know him personally. Seen him around. Never thought of him as scary.
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Baby Doll nightmares? What is so terrifying about Columbus?
Other than it goes where you are going?

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Originally Posted by JoeyBike
Ever heard of an event called The Boston Tea Party? American colonists, let's call them traitors and lawbreakers - because that's what they were - got fed up with British taxation and laws thrust upon them without the ability to vote on any British laws that effected them greatly. It's called Taxation Without Representation, and it pretty much SUCKED. So they went out and threw some loads of tea off of British trade ships to get some attention. They got LOTS of attention, and after a long tale of insurgency and criminal behavior, changed the world forever (so far anyway). Those criminals we now call the first Americans and Patriots.
I'm sorry, but protesting taxation without representation and promoting and performing anarchistic recklessness that could get yourself and/or pedestrians killed are two completely different things.
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Sorry, I cycle the same way I drive my car, same rules, same common sense. Hasn't let me down yet except perhaps a recent cycling mishap that resulted in fracturing my left humerus, still mending. Never fell off my car.
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Sorry, I cycle the same way I drive my car, same rules, same common sense. Hasn't let me down yet except perhaps a recent cycling mishap that resulted in fracturing my left humerus, still mending. Never fell off my car.
You sound just like me in 2008, except it was my left radius. It's the only real injury I've had since I started riding around 1960. The ordinary "rules of the road" that drivers are supposed to follow have worked just fine for my cycling.
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Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg
Sorry, I cycle the same way I drive my car, same rules, same common sense. Hasn't let me down yet except perhaps a recent cycling mishap that resulted in fracturing my left humerus, still mending. Never fell off my car.
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You sound just like me in 2008, except it was my left radius. It's the only real injury I've had since I started riding around 1960. The ordinary "rules of the road" that drivers are supposed to follow have worked just fine for my cycling.
Me too. Do what's expected and have some common courtesy and things tend to work out pretty well IMO.
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I'm sorry, but protesting taxation without representation and promoting and performing anarchistic recklessness that could get yourself and/or pedestrians killed are two completely different things.
At what point in the video (any of his for that matter) did he or anyone else almost get killed. I must have missed it.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
At what point in the video (any of his for that matter) did he or anyone else almost get killed. I must have missed it.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/cyclist-whose-bicycle-had-no-brakes-admits-to-causing-73-year-olds-death
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...n-central-park
https://sfist.com/2012/04/05/cyclist_who_struck_pedestrian_at_ca.php

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Thanks. I understand that bicyclists can hurt or kill people. I wondered at what point in HIS video he endangered himself or others.
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Thanks. I understand that bicyclists can hurt or kill people. I wondered at what point in HIS video he endangered himself or others.
So what's the point of making excuses for him?
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Originally Posted by satrain18
So what's the point of making excuses for him?
Man, I didn't think it would be such a difficult question. I watched the video and didn't see him endanger himself or others, so I asked the poster who said he did to point it out to me. That's making excuses? And if so for what?
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I'm sorry, but protesting taxation without representation and promoting and performing anarchistic recklessness that could get yourself and/or pedestrians killed are two completely different things.
When lawmakers make silly laws, like requiring cyclists to ACT like a motor vehicle with unlimited horsepower and duration of speed, but do not in any way provide for our safety when we do so or give us any recourse after getting run over (unless we are DEAD), then I do not feel represented in the matter. So...I do what I want to. As another BF member stated "I yield to EVERYTHING, but I do not stop for NOTHING. As soon as my community starts enforcing traffic laws for automobiles I might change my ways. It's a cultural thing. Many, many motorists in New Orleans run red lights and ALL of them run/roll stop signs. Few use turn signals or drive at or below the speed limit. Most motorists are drunk and/or on the phone. So why oh why would I comply only to increase the danger to me from other road users? Perhaps you live in a civilized land. I don't.
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As soon as my community starts enforcing traffic laws for automobiles I might change my ways. It's a cultural thing. Many, many motorists in New Orleans run red lights and ALL of them run/roll stop signs. Few use turn signals or drive at or below the speed limit. Most motorists are drunk and/or on the phone. So why oh why would I comply only to increase the danger to me from other road users? Perhaps you live in a civilized land. I don't.
So you use your hatred of carbon fiber, lycra and automobiles to justify your reckless rehavior? You're doing a good job making cyclists look bad.
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So you use your hatred of carbon fiber, lycra and automobiles to justify your reckless rehavior? You're doing a good job making cyclists look bad.
First of all, cyclists don't need my help looking bad to non-cyclists. Cyclists are like cult members who wear ridiculous cult uniforms to be certain to dehumanize and alienate themselves from the non-cycling public as much as possible. Now that they have everyone's attention and ire with the goofy clothing, most cyclists are experts in getting in every road user's way, "slowing them down", and further infuriating most non cyclists. I have non-cycling friends who talk to me regularly about cyclists and cyclist behavior. The silly leotards get everyone giggling and wondering "Why??". I tell them why. Easy. Because many want to be easily identified as a cyclist as if that is somehow inspirational or something a person would aspire to be. Or to show off their figure. Or both. "Look at me... I'm a CYCLIST!!"

Secondly, I do not hate ANY of the things you mentioned in the quote above. I do have healthy disdain for the MISUSE of carbon fiber, lycra, and cars. If someone is riding a carbon fiber race bike wearing matching tights emblazoned with names of products they don't even use and do not get a paycheck with that logo printed on it, they are poseurs and danged funny looking to everyone but them and their cult members.

I believe you and yours have the right to ride and wear whatever you want to when you take a bike ride but I also have a right to laugh my @** off at you. Or to blow you up out on the road wearing my cargo shorts and skateboard helmet while letting out a devilish laugh as I go past. Just DONT BLAME ME that the rest of the world hates you. It's not my fault. It's the lycra bunch that makes my cycling life unnecessarily harder as well as the dummies who obey every law no matter how inappropriate those laws may be in some situations.

While you are digging up ancient threads you will find many where I have made the same observations yet nothing has changed. Just as many goofball cyclists as ever out there. Because a cult wants it's members to be a special kind of goofy because this UNITES THEM.

Something to think about next time you squeeze into some spandex billboard. Every non-cyclist hates you before you even throw a leg over the carbon toptube.
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