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Old 10-09-08, 07:07 PM   #1
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Night train

Today, I went with a friend out to eat. For the ride back, he didn't have any lights and night had fallen. My headlamp quickly clips on and off of the bars, so I gave him my headlamp and I went behind with my tail blinker. Any thoughts on the effectivness/legality of this?
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Old 10-09-08, 07:29 PM   #2
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i think you'll be alright dude
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Old 10-09-08, 07:35 PM   #3
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Under the circumstances, I would say it was unquestionably the best thing to do.

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Old 10-09-08, 07:47 PM   #4
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Not legal unless you turn the bikes into a single tandem, but it certainly was making the best of the situation.

How close did you draft your friend and can we expect a post from him about the jerk that drafted him at night without his permission, and with no headlight at that?
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Old 10-09-08, 07:51 PM   #5
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No problem with it as long as you stayed in formation. In the future, however, I'd rec a set of lights for each of y'all.
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When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about fine wines and their effect on cycling safety.

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When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about fine wines and their effect on cycling safety.
My thoughts as well. When I lived in the Bay Area (early '80s) they used to advertise that stuff on billboards in the rougher parts of Oakland. Never worked up the nerve to try it.
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I don't like it when some cyclist drafts me at night, obscuring my tailights to the passing cars.
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I don't like it when some cyclist drafts me at night, obscuring my tailights to the passing cars.
Just vaporize the drafter with a DiNotte. Even a couple Superflashes on flash mode should be a decent draft deterrent.
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Just vaporize the drafter with a DiNotte. Even a couple Superflashes on flash mode should be a decent draft deterrent.
Rule of thumb: If you're drafted at night, your taillight isn't bright enough.

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^ And if you're getting left hooked, your headlights aren't bright enough.
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DJ Nite Train (local Boston celebrity):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sRo80A-ZpU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGi2rc0bvo0
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Same page here Adam
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Better than nothing.
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Under the circumstances, sounds like the best you could do at the time.

From a strictly legal standpoint, I doubt it was. Since each bike is an individual vehicle, each is required to have it's own lights.
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I would have kept my headlight stayed in front and given them my 2nd rear light
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Night Train is some tasty shirt-tail wine!

(e.g. you wipe the mouth of the bottle with your shirt tail before taking a swig and passing it along)
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I used a similar method a week ago. A friend and I were out riding in the early evening. When we started to lose light, we pulled over. I gave him my rear blinkie to clip on his clothing and we pedaled the rest of the way home in tandem. We only had about 1.6 kilometres left to go. It worked, but I don't ever want to do that again.
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I saw two people at my school who really "tandem"ed their bikes - they shared a headlight, taillight, and a cable lock. Then again, that's better than the 75% of riders here who have no lights at all.
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Effective? Yes. Legal? No. Every bit as illegal as driving 31 in a 30 zone.
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We only had about 1.6 kilometres left to go. It worked, but I don't ever want to do that again.
You had a whole mile to go. That's 4, 5 minutes, tops.
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^ And if you're getting left hooked, your headlights aren't bright enough.
Dude.


I've been "left hooked" with lights that were bright enough.

During the daytime.

In my car.
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I've been "left hooked" with lights that were bright enough.

During the daytime.

In my car.
then the sun was too bright and your car was silver
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effectivness/legality
Yes/No
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The night train works in an emergency, but it has its weaknesses. Unless the two riders can stay extremely close together, the back rider is not properly illuminated from the front and the front rider isn't lit from the back.

Still, That setup is a lot better than riders at night who have no lights or reflectors and wear dark or dull clothing.
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