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Old 02-07-09, 10:05 PM
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Brutal red light ticket on A1A

I got stopped on A1A in Ocean Ridge, south of Palm Beach. $216 for running a red light by a very agressive police officer who kept me standing roadside for 45 minutes. I was fingerprinted because I didn't have a picture ID. Keep in mind I was only cooperative and polite.

My first ride on the streets of Florida; my first reprieve after a week of caring for an elderly family member. Tee intersection, didn't cross any traffic, bike lane dissappeared.

Gosh, not a warning, chastised and told I can appeal if I want to come back to Florida at some undefined time. Affects my Mass insurance big time. Bummer. Riders beware!
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Old 02-07-09, 10:07 PM
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Move to the Texas Gulf Coast.
The Cops Wave at us all day long.
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Old 02-07-09, 11:00 PM
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Just wave or is the Gulf coast have rider friendly roads? Never ridden there.

Thing is, my angst isn't the law, just the unjustness. Like Pheobe Snow sang, "I've had a long string of bad luck and I pray it's gone at last". I'd admit to feeling sorry for myself but I've been caring for an elderly woman who fell and broke her arm yet keeps life and good cheer in perspective. Dang! I did enjoy most of the ride and mentally flossed my head.
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Why were you running a red light? We are expected to follow the laws of the road just like cars. In addition there have been some fatal traffic accidents recently in south FL. This probably added to the aggression.
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Yep, bad luck had nothing to do with it. Bad decision making, probably had a lot to do with it..
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You have been fined $216 for running a red light on a bicycle?
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Welcome to FL.
The sad thing is, there really is no such thing as a real 'stop' for
cars here. If you had been a Hummer driven by young Biff and
sis, Muffy, on the way to the mall to consume, you wouldnt have
gotten a second look by said officer.
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Old 02-08-09, 07:19 PM
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I grew up down that way and yea, it sucks. They make their budget for the year giving out tickets.
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Old 02-08-09, 07:23 PM
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Surprising....I was down there a few months ago riding the out and back from Pompano to Palm and I was blown away by the fact that none of the locals stop for red lights unless there is immanent traffic. I do not mean some of the locals run the lights I mean ALL of the locals run the lights....from what I saw at least
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Old 02-08-09, 08:53 PM
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Yeah, no one really stops for reds on A1A. Traffic lights are pretty much treated as optional, especially on a T intersection.
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There are three spots the locals obey and for the most part it is only on speed limit on A1A, Palm Beach proper especially near Worth Ave., between Lake Worth Rd and Southern Blvd and down near Manalapan. Spent many a day on the beaches there and now where the cops would sit to bust people.
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Old 02-08-09, 10:25 PM
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Fatal accidents warrant good enforcement. This seemed unduly aggressive; a warning would have been effective. I did stop at all other lights on the ride and normally do. Extenuating circumstances (bike lane disappeared at intersection and reappeared just past intersection (bike lane is not a sidewalk. Had it been sidewalk, no crime?), traffic was clear, slowed to 2 mph and looked carefully, kept me 45 minutes when I was rushing to get back to the elderly relative I caring for, fingerprinted, first ride on Fl roads.
I am both whining and spreading the word, even 2 mph and clear path, is a ticket, not a warning.
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Old 02-08-09, 10:58 PM
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Oh then he was just a pinhead and you were an easy mark.
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Old 02-08-09, 11:51 PM
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You make your point.
He was correct to stop me.
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Also be careful with the red lights in downtown Lake Worth. Had a friend get a $176 ticket for running the light at Lake and Federal. No warning either. I have gone through the red at 2nd ave north and Federal with a cop watching and not had a problem, but that is a sensor light with little traffic.
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I got one and I did not run the light. I followed him as we both went through when it was yellow. I asked him why it was ok for hi to go through a yellow and not me and his resonse was it was red. Excuse me SIR, but we went through at the same time and it was yellow and I could not brake in a safe manner that is why I went through. Response, I am the police officer and it was red and here is your ticket. They have nothing else to do in that area and they have to generate revenue some how. For the record, I do not run red lights and I do say something to other bikers when I see them doing it. I set the ticket to one of those "traffic" attorneys becasue he said that in addition to the fine there were points involved.
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I have seen police do jobs I wouldn't wish on anyone and have never complained, argued or contested. Truth is police do put their lives on the line in service of the public.

There are times though when I have seen police not make the ideal decision in terms of justice, hence the right to appeal. Over the last 2 decades I've regretted not contested a couple of tickets putting business priorities first. This time I just feel it is "brutal" and should have been handled differently.

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Old 02-10-09, 04:23 PM
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2 mph

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You have been fined $216 for running a red light on a bicycle?
yep, at 2 mph, inching forward to make sure the coast was clear.
If I was driving a car, it wouldn't occurr to me to not wait for green. I guess the cops really want bicyclists to obey the rules but the attitude and amplitude seems excessive.
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Old 02-11-09, 07:08 AM
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Your mistake was it happend in Palm Beach!! They tend to be snooty up there, if you were in a Bentley it would have been a smile and a have a great day!
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Get a $100 traffic lawyer and take the officer to court to make his day. I've had tickets dismissed for cops saying "in my experience" instead of "the facts are..."

There are lawyers out there who are keen cyclists too and would take up cases like this.

On a side note: I had a ticket dismissed when I went drove though an orange light but the guy behind went through on red and got away. The officer told me "we'll get him another time". My lawyer used that in court to show the cop wasn't chasing offenders but going for easy kills.

My wife's co-worker's husband is a local cop, and he says officers giving out silly tickets for 2 mph on an intersection should be ticketing speeders and other major offenders, not focusing on minor issues.

If policing were a commercial activity, the cops would be going for law-breakers who generate highest revenue, such as speeding without a seat-belt on, etc.
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I have to say you folks, time and distance make me feel a little better about biking in Florida. I've been really bummed by the experience, "never ride in Fl again"... Grammy has a nurse, I am just back from a 30 mile wet, icy, sandy New England ride with no close calls and no tickets. Come to think of it, no red lights either.
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I moved here from Vermont and it took almost two years to overcome the
culture shock and general meanness of this S.Fl society in general. Sad
thing is, with all the monetary woes FL has right now they have a never-
ending supply of revenue if they would ever decide to go after the worst
drivers on the east coast with any sincerity. 98% dont stop, use an
indicator or go the speed limit. This could be a gold mine for the state.
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45 minutes? sounds a little excessive? Was he just shuffling about in his patrol car?
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,,,, 98% dont stop, use an
indicator or go the speed limit. This could be a gold mine for the state.
+1000 Here from SF Bay area and could not agree more, especially the turn signal thing (failure to use in FL is a 2pt moving violation) and the LEO's are some of the worst offenders!
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