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Old 05-09-09, 11:26 AM
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Wrong way in the bike lane!

When approaching a cyclist who is in the wrong lane, do you move over into the motorist lane, or do you force the wrong way cyclist to? I suppose you're either a really nice person who puts themselves in the lane with cars, or you're a dick who forces the person riding illegally to either stop or put themselves in the lane with cars.

I'm a dick. This has happened numerous times and I started off by looking behind me and then merging with traffic. I did this until I happened on this scenario on a 55mph, two lane, very busy, country road. Why should I put myself in harms way because another cyclist doesn't travel on the correct side of the street?
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Old 05-09-09, 12:33 PM
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I guess I am a dick too. I hold my line and say wrong way on the way by.
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Old 05-09-09, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
When approaching a cyclist who is in the wrong lane, do you move over into the motorist lane, or do you force the wrong way cyclist to? I suppose you're either a really nice person who puts themselves in the lane with cars, or you're a dick who forces the person riding illegally to either stop or put themselves in the lane with cars.

I'm a dick. This has happened numerous times and I started off by looking behind me and then merging with traffic. I did this until I happened on this scenario on a 55mph, two lane, very busy, country road. Why should I put myself in harms way because another cyclist doesn't travel on the correct side of the street?

Dick #3...(at least we agree on this) but I get this more with joggers than other cyclists.
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Old 05-09-09, 12:56 PM
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I hardly ever ride on roads with such high speed motor traffic, so I almost always merge into the next lane over to avoid the wrong way cyclist. I know that I can only control my behavior, not his, and if he's riding the wrong way, there's a good chance he's oblivious to the cyclist headed right for him. I'm not above barking at him as I pass though.
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Old 05-09-09, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast Cloud View Post
Dick #3...(at least we agree on this) but I get this more with joggers than other cyclists.
What's your definition of a wrong way jogger, Dick#3? Any basis for it?
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Old 05-09-09, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
What's your definition of a wrong way jogger, Dick#3? Any basis for it?

None whatsoever!! I suppose it's better they do run towards us since they can't here us. I suppose it must be the opposite for joggers since I see it so often.
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Old 05-09-09, 02:14 PM
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never seen this in a bike lane, of course that may be because we don't have many bike lanes. On the road, I hold my line and ask them to ride on the right.
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Old 05-09-09, 02:19 PM
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I believe the appropriate thing to do is hold your line. They can see the traffic behind you, and you can't, and it would be unsafe for you to veer left as you might be hit from behind. The courteous thing to do is indicate you are holdng your line by ringing your bell, waving at them or calling out and politely suggesting they alter their course.

Joggers are supposed to run towards us. My beef with them is that half the time they aren't even watching for bikes, and just assume we will veer around them.
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Old 05-09-09, 06:27 PM
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Having been hit head on by a cyclist, I just get out of the way. A good solid jolt from a cycle at night (unlit) put my front wheel by my bottom bracket and gave me a skull fracture.

Common sense.
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Old 05-09-09, 06:29 PM
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I have occasional problems with wrong-way cyclists, for whom my strategy is generally to take the left half of the bike lane assertively, essentially forcing them to slow way down and to hug the curb. I do the same with joggers if there is a sidewalk available, but I am considerably nicer to joggers who have no sidewalk. If there are parked cars and a door zone, I make damn sure I am not the one there.
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Old 05-09-09, 07:37 PM
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I just treat wrong way riders just as I would any obstacle in the bike lane or like parked cars, if I have enough time to react, I just move left into the lane of traffic when safe.
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Old 05-09-09, 09:01 PM
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most of the time the wrong wayers are clear over against the curb so they are out of the way. I guess they just don't understand the arrows pointing the right direction.
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Originally Posted by steveknight View Post
most of the time the wrong wayers are clear over against the curb so they are out of the way. I guess they just don't understand the arrows pointing the right direction.
That's what I've always wondered. Do they look at the arrows and think, "yep, that's where I came from!"

We have several 3 foot wide bike lanes. I'm not comfortable passing a wrong way ride that close, especially if I'm on the traffic side. We also have steep-sided curbs so hoping up to the sidewalk is out for many riders.
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Old 05-09-09, 10:23 PM
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Hmmh, you could always move to the right side (thus he'd have to move over towards the cars). And hop off your bike so as to minimize impact should the fool still hit you. And be sure to yell as he goes past. Who knows, faced with that obstacle he might even stop and let you talk to him about why he's stupid.
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Old 05-09-09, 10:31 PM
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Or just look in my mirror, left merge hand, and take the lane la la la.


Of course stopping never hurt any one who could jump. Mostly likely as your bicycle falls against them.
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Usually, I ring the bell about ten times in a row and glare at them.
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Originally Posted by Fast Cloud View Post
... but I get this more with joggers than other cyclists.
By law in most places, pedestrians are required to walk/run facing traffic. So if they're running in a bike lane, that's going to put them and you in a head-on situation. The thing to do is to yield to them, e.g the cyclist scans behind, merges left into the traffic lane, then return to the bike lane when you get past them.

Multi-use paths are a different deal; there the general rule is walk/run/ride on the right.

Pedestrians get used to walking facing traffic, that when they get on a bike they don't make the switch from being a pedestrian to being a vehicle driver (and thus subject to traffic laws like vehicles are). This is a prime reason why inexperienced cyclists ride the wrong way...
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Originally Posted by Pscyclepath View Post
The thing to do is to yield to them, e.g the cyclist scans behind, merges left into the traffic lane, then return to the bike lane when you get past them.
Correction:

"The thing for the walker/jogger to do is yield to the cyclist, by means of vacating the bike lane, via the grass and/or sidewalk."

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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
What's your definition of a wrong way jogger, Dick#3? Any basis for it?
Ooooh! Ooooh! I know this one!

ANY Jogger that's in the damn bike lane to begin with!
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Old 05-12-09, 03:00 PM
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I just had my bike wrecked and got a lac on my chin from a wrong way cyclist. In the future I will probably pull to the curbside, dismount on the side of my bike that looks safest, and blow my AirZounds at full blast as the punk rides by.

Safe for me, painfully instructive for the other cyclist. The headon collision was undoubtedly instructive for the last one, but I would prefer not to spend hundreds of dollars on their next class.
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Pass in the traffic lane.

Same I would do for
a jogger,
accident debris,
an illegally parked car,
a vehicle discharging passengers,
a delivery truck dropping off a package,
a construction sign,
illegally dumped garbage,
a snowbank,
or a pothole.

I don't "play chicken" with any of these legal and/or illegal BL obstructions, and wayward cyclists are no different.
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Originally Posted by cooker View Post
I believe the appropriate thing to do is hold your line. They can see the traffic behind you, and you can't, and it would be unsafe for you to veer left as you might be hit from behind. The courteous thing to do is indicate you are holdng your line by ringing your bell, waving at them or calling out and politely suggesting they alter their course.

Joggers are supposed to run towards us. My beef with them is that half the time they aren't even watching for bikes, and just assume we will veer around them.
Judging by the bolded statement, you must never make left hand turns. How would you be able to see if traffic was coming? What would do if a car was parked in the bike lane? Stop indefinitely?

It's not that hard to check over your shoulder and merge into traffic to pass the cyclist, regardless of what kind of road and what the traffic is like. Some of the excuses and methods of dealing with wrong way cyclists sound a lot like the methods some motorists have of dealing with cyclists in their way.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
What's your definition of a wrong way jogger, Dick#3? Any basis for it?
In Wisconsin pedestrians are legally supposed to walk/run against traffic.
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Originally Posted by bikesafer View Post
In Wisconsin pedestrians are legally supposed to walk/run against traffic.
Since we're vehicles, we should probably yield to pedestrians anyway.
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