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Hit and run driver not arrested after he strikes, severely injures cyclist

Old 07-07-09, 06:08 AM
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Hit and run driver not arrested after he strikes, severely injures cyclist

This happened on a route I frequently ride on in the Santa Clarita area of CA. If Santa Clarita sounds familiar, it's because for the last few years the Amgen Tour of California has had stage starts/finishes here:

Members of a Valencia church are walking by faith after one of their own was the victim of a hit-and-run while bicycling and wound up in the hospital with major spinal injuries on the holiday weekend.

Kevin Mather, 26, of Saugus, was one of 11 men from Copperhill Community Church who were on a 55-mile bicycle ride Friday morning.

About a quarter-mile north of Le Chene French Cuisine on Sierra Highway, Mather had gotten ahead of the rest of the group.

When Ryan House of Newhall rounded a curve in the road, he saw Mather's yellow bike laying in the middle of the road and cars pulling off on the shoulder.

Mather was sprawled out on the side of the road, bleeding from the head.

"It's something you don't ever want to see," House said Monday.

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Mather had been struck from behind by a 2006 Chevrolet Silverado pickup driven by Emilio Ramirez, 37, of Agua Dulce, and thrown from his bike, according to a California Highway Patrol report.

Ramirez eventually returned to the scene. He was not arrested, and the collision is under investigation by the CHP, said Officer John Lutz of the Highway Patrol's Newhall-area station.
https://www.the-signal.com/news/article/15278/

The guy's friends have set up a blog where you can read about his recovery. Here's how one of his friends described him as he lay on the street bleeding:

I jumped off the bike and saw Kevin lying on the side of the road perpendicular to Sierra Highway with his head in the ditch. There was the entire mirror of a SUV or truck next to him that had broken off the vehicle that hit him. Ryan and one of the motorist were on the phone with police and paramedics. He was lying there by himself and I put my hand on his hand and prayed again for him. He had massive head injuries and it looked like his helmet was the only thing holding the top of his head in place.
https://kevinsrecovery.com/blog/the-accident/

I think it's outrageous that the motorist hasn't been arrested. There is no excuse for leaving the scene of the crime. It sounds like he only came back because a big part of his truck was left at the scene!

What's more Kevin had pedaled ahead of all his friends. That means the driver passed several cyclists on the road; he should have been more alert.
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Old 07-07-09, 06:40 AM
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First, its terrible what happened to the cyclist. My prayers are with him.

However, I wouldn't get too worked up about this yet, with the emphasis on "yet".

Simply because the driver was not arrested at the scene, does not mean that there will not be charges brought. The article specifically mentions that the accident is under investigation. Typical process is for the police to refer the results of their investigation onto the Prosecuting attorney, who then makes the decision whether to prosecute.

The article is less than clear on the "Hit and Run" stating that the driver "eventually" returned. How worked up the prosecutor may be about hit and run charges may turn on whether the driver went to the closest intersection turned around and came back, or whether he came back 2 hours later. The article doesn't give that information.

If you're concerned about seeing this guy prosecuted, Letters, emails, and phone calls to the prosecutor's office from the victim's family, the local cycling community, and the Church would serve to let the Prosecutor's office know that people are seriously concerned about this type of conduct.
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I feel ceretain that eventually charges may be brought. howver I think if the driver had hit a dog they would already be on death row!
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Old 07-07-09, 04:12 PM
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The driver returned to the scene, so it is NOT a hit and run.
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You can't arrest someone until they've been charged with a crime. This is still the United States of America. Our rights and freedoms are still applicable, even in the land of A&S.
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
The driver returned to the scene, so it is NOT a hit and run.
Didn't it become a hit-run as soon as the driver left the scene?
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Old 07-07-09, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
Didn't it become a hit-run as soon as the driver left the scene?
It was leaving the scene of an accident. With the level of the cyclist's injuries, I believe that's a felony here. That's what the police could have arrested him for, but they've chosen not to.
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Originally Posted by dobber
You can't arrest someone until they've been charged with a crime. This is still the United States of America. Our rights and freedoms are still applicable, even in the land of A&S.
That is not at all true. Police arrest people everyday, take them to a holding cell and then prosecutors file charges later.

Do you really think that prosecutors file charges in the middle of the night while a cop is standing on the side of the road with a DUI suspect. And that only after the charges are filed, that the police can then arrest the DUI driver?
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Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
Didn't it become a hit-run as soon as the driver left the scene?
Not always. Read your local law. Many allow the driver to: go to a pay phone to call for help; report to the nearest police station (based on some conditions), stop at the nearest safe location (which in some cases may be a mile or so), etc.


I doubt that any of the exceptions apply. I agree that it is likely the driver went to a spot he could get out and look at the dammage to his truck. He realized that with the missing mirror, he was going to get caught. So he figured his best chance to minimize the penalty to himself, was to return.
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Originally Posted by CB HI
That is not at all true. Police arrest people everyday, take them to a holding cell and then prosecutors file charges later.

Do you really think that prosecutors file charges in the middle of the night while a cop is standing on the side of the road with a DUI suspect. And that only after the charges are filed, that the police can then arrest the DUI driver?
Police can arrest people when they witness the crime. They can't arrest people just because somebody else told the officer that the other person committed the crime. They need a warrant for that.
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Originally Posted by alhedges
Police can arrest people when they witness the crime. They can't arrest people just because somebody else told the officer that the other person committed the crime. They need a warrant for that.
That is not true either. Police only have to observe certain violations in certain States; such as traffic violations and low end misdemeanors. If a police officer arrives at a traffic accident, the officer clearly did not see one driver engaged in DUI. But if the evidence of the collision indicates that the driver was in fact driving and is in fact under the influence, then the police officer may make the DUI arrest without any warrant. Same for murder and other serious crimes.


Sometimes, police could make an arrest without a warrant, but choose to hold off while continuing investigation, because the speedy trial thing starts with the arrest.
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Oops, that's right...my state is a misdemeanor/presence state, but with several exceptions. For felonies, you just need probable cause, which I would think you would have here, if as it appears from the blog, the driver's mirror broke off and was left at the scene.
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I wonder what ever happened here?
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https://kevinsrecovery.com/blog/

https://www.the-signal.com/archives/15707/
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I saw that stuff, I was more curious what happened with the driver now.
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Originally Posted by 68venable
I saw that stuff, I was more curious what happened with the driver now.
So you saw it , but you were not courteous enough to link it? How nice. Next time I will not bother trying to help YOU out.
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I did a google news search for the driver's name and didn't come up with anything.
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The way I understand it, the police need probable cause to arrest. They don't need a warrant.
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Originally Posted by CB HI
So you saw it , but you were not courteous enough to link it? How nice. Next time I will not bother trying to help YOU out.
The link to his recovery was in the original post. Thanks though for re-linking it for anyone who may have not noticed it already. I really appreciate your courtesy.
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Originally Posted by 68venable
The link to his recovery was in the original post. Thanks though for re-linking it for anyone who may have not noticed it already. I really appreciate your courtesy.
Actually the OP link was directly to the accident story and not the general recovery blog. So my link was not a re-link. There are some that would not likely find the rest of the blog information, so I made it easy for them. I notice you ignore that I also provided a link that gave a more recent update to the legal case.
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Here's the thing. The DA is going to have a hard time, if not impossible, due to the fact the driver did return to the scene. A defense attorney will emphasize this in a court, and no way is a jury going to convict for more than traffic violations. Bummer, but that's the truth.
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Originally Posted by gpsblake
Here's the thing. The DA is going to have a hard time, if not impossible, due to the fact the driver did return to the scene.
It depends. If he returned in sixty seconds, OK. In a few minutes, maybe. If he returned 30 minutes later, no. All we know is what the story said -- "Ramirez eventually returned to the scene" -- that suggests it wasn't quick, but doesn't give much detail.

The statements of the witnesses will be key as well -- if the guy came back and tried to get his mirror and slink out of there, that would certainly hurt him.
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Dougmc, yea I'm sure there are facts we don't know for sure. 30 minutes would be a big deal even to a jury.

This almost certainly won't go to trial though, either the DA won't charge, or a deal will be made if the DA can make a case.

The fact the person who got hit has set up a blog will only assist the defense.
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