Cyclist killed on Long Island changing tire in bike lane
07-22-09, 09:22 AM
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Cyclist killed on Long Island changing tire in bike lane
07-22-09, 09:30 AM
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Wow, looks like the kid was on a completely separate trail parallel to the road. That asshat had to cross a good deal of grass to hit him. Hope prison isn't kind to him.
07-22-09, 09:44 AM
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Srsly. Drunk on a Harley. Whodda thunk. I've had close calls with Harley's riding two abreast while passing me. There aren't a lot of Harley riders I like.
07-22-09, 09:45 AM
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Wow I ride this trail every night. This is horrible.
The path is 4 miles each way and runs parallel to a parkway down to the beach. You're pretty much right next to the cars but I never thought that one would come across the grass. There are no guard rails between the road and the path.
The path is 4 miles each way and runs parallel to a parkway down to the beach. You're pretty much right next to the cars but I never thought that one would come across the grass. There are no guard rails between the road and the path.
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You are correct, this is not a bike lane on a shared road. This bike lane is seperated by at least 15 feet of grassy field.
07-22-09, 10:36 AM
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I was running on the that trail with my wife past that spot 15 minutes before this happened. I saw the emergency vehicles go by just before I got to Cedar Creek Park.
Where this happened is just South of what is called the Goose Creek Draw Bridge. That bridge is brand new, just finished in May. The path is also brand new in that area and was actually moved further from the parkway than the original. It is also on a slight sweeping curve with the path on the outside of the curve.
On any given summer day (or night) I would guess that several 1000 people use this MUP.
The Newsday account stated that the motorcycle was traveling at a high rate of speed. The posted limit is 55, the average is probably closer to 65, and I have seen many vehicles go by in triple digits, so this doesn't surprise me much.
Where this happened is just South of what is called the Goose Creek Draw Bridge. That bridge is brand new, just finished in May. The path is also brand new in that area and was actually moved further from the parkway than the original. It is also on a slight sweeping curve with the path on the outside of the curve.
On any given summer day (or night) I would guess that several 1000 people use this MUP.
The Newsday account stated that the motorcycle was traveling at a high rate of speed. The posted limit is 55, the average is probably closer to 65, and I have seen many vehicles go by in triple digits, so this doesn't surprise me much.
07-22-09, 10:40 AM
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horrible. i ride this path a lot. sad to see it happen but unfortunately it is not surprising with the way people drive and the setup of the trail.
07-22-09, 10:42 AM
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Wow I ride this trail every night. This is horrible.
The path is 4 miles each way and runs parallel to a parkway down to the beach. You're pretty much right next to the cars but I never thought that one would come across the grass. There are no guard rails between the road and the path.
The path is 4 miles each way and runs parallel to a parkway down to the beach. You're pretty much right next to the cars but I never thought that one would come across the grass. There are no guard rails between the road and the path.
It is funny how so many of us on this board use this trail and probably see each other all the time and have no idea who the others are.
07-22-09, 10:51 AM
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Its not the speed its the inattentiveness and carelessness
07-22-09, 11:07 AM
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hopefully they throw the book at this guy, and he doesnt wind up out on parole in 6 months.
07-22-09, 11:27 AM
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It's one of those stupid train of coincidences that seem innocuous at first and then end up in someone getting killed. If the rider hadn't got the flat, he wouldn't have been there. If he had gotten a flat a minute earlier he would have been at a different spot. If he had been 50 ft up the road, the divider might have protected him. If the guy wasn't drunk, he probably wouldn't have run off the road. If he'd lost it 1 second later, he would have hit a different spot. None of us know how many times we've avoided dying just from one coincidence in a train of coincidences going the other way. Unfortunately, sometimes they all come together.
It's crazy when you look back on it. He heard that innocuous pop (or fsss, fsss, fsss) of his tire puncturing and of course there was no way he could know it had started the clock ticking on his death.
It's crazy when you look back on it. He heard that innocuous pop (or fsss, fsss, fsss) of his tire puncturing and of course there was no way he could know it had started the clock ticking on his death.
07-22-09, 11:55 AM
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I have noticed that too. One day we need to setup a group ride to the beach for fun. I can only imagine how many times I have seen someone off this forum and had no idea.
07-22-09, 11:57 AM
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It's one of those stupid train of coincidences that seem innocuous at first and then end up in someone getting killed. If the rider hadn't got the flat, he wouldn't have been there. If he had gotten a flat a minute earlier he would have been at a different spot. If he had been 50 ft up the road, the divider might have protected him. If the guy wasn't drunk, he probably wouldn't have run off the road. If he'd lost it 1 second later, he would have hit a different spot. None of us know how many times we've avoided dying just from one coincidence in a train of coincidences going the other way. Unfortunately, sometimes they all come together.
It's crazy when you look back on it. He heard that innocuous pop (or fsss, fsss, fsss) of his tire puncturing and of course there was no way he could know it had started the clock ticking on his death.
It's crazy when you look back on it. He heard that innocuous pop (or fsss, fsss, fsss) of his tire puncturing and of course there was no way he could know it had started the clock ticking on his death.
On a side note I have had many instances while riding here. I was hit by a car about 2 weeks ago in Cedar Creek Park and a lot of close calls on the MUP with dumb riders and cars screaming stuff at me. For a "bike trail" it is probably the most dangerous place I ride.
07-22-09, 12:30 PM
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It's one of those stupid train of coincidences that seem innocuous at first and then end up in someone getting killed. If the rider hadn't got the flat, he wouldn't have been there. If he had gotten a flat a minute earlier he would have been at a different spot. If he had been 50 ft up the road, the divider might have protected him. If the guy wasn't drunk, he probably wouldn't have run off the road. If he'd lost it 1 second later, he would have hit a different spot. None of us know how many times we've avoided dying just from one coincidence in a train of coincidences going the other way. Unfortunately, sometimes they all come together.
It's crazy when you look back on it. He heard that innocuous pop (or fsss, fsss, fsss) of his tire puncturing and of course there was no way he could know it had started the clock ticking on his death.
It's crazy when you look back on it. He heard that innocuous pop (or fsss, fsss, fsss) of his tire puncturing and of course there was no way he could know it had started the clock ticking on his death.
07-22-09, 12:41 PM
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This doesn't really make sense. The greater the speed, the greater the kinetic energy that will be dissipated in the event of a collision. The greater the energy, the greater the potential for damage. Surely you don't think that an inattentive drunk is a hazard at 0mph.
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