mad that others don't wear helmets?
one of the arguments I see alot about not wearing helmets is that people say "our insurance rates go up because of you helmet less jerks!" (or something like that...)
but I was just thinking about something along the same lines, that is, really really fat people. don't these people cause the insurance rates to go up along the same lines as helmet less folks? there are so many health related issues with being super fat. how come I never hear people complain about them? |
I couldn't care less is someone decides not to wear a helmet. It's their choice to make. It's not up to me to decide if you wear a helmet.
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It's worse than that .... your tax dollars are funding programs that pay their medical costs when they develop diseases like diabetes etc...
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tax dollars will always go to things people don't want them to.
fat people should be taxed more. |
Fat people piss me off. I hate subsidizing them through my health insurance costs every two weeks. Just think how much less health care would cost if everybody rode bikes!!!!! We should get discounts. I believe that health insurance costs should be based solely on an annual physical every year. If you are healthy, then you pay less.
Along these lines, African Americans are more suseptable to many types of diseases then other races. Should they have to pay more in insurance because of it? In a strictly numbers sense, then yes, that would be fair, but imagine the uproar. |
No, they have just as much right to their money as anyone else. If anything some of the money funneled into those public health programs should be placed into preventetive method programs. For example, a program that subsidizes the cost of a gym membership for obese people but requires them to log time at the gym to receive the money etc... :o
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Originally Posted by 520commuter
Fat people piss me off. I hate subsidizing them through my health insurance costs every two weeks. Just think how much less health care would cost if everybody rode bikes!!!!! We should get discounts. I believe that health insurance costs should be based solely on an annual physical every year. If you are healthy, then you pay less.
Along these lines, African Americans are more suseptable to many types of diseases then other races. Should they have to pay more in insurance because of it? In a strictly numbers sense, then yes, that would be fair, but imagine the uproar. That's a dangerous slope you're sliding down .... |
Originally Posted by Moistfly
No, they have just as much right to their money as anyone else. If anything some of the money funneled into those public health programs should be placed into preventetive method programs. For example, a program that subsidizes the cost of a gym membership for obese people but requires them to log time at the gym to receive the money etc... :o
right. but charge them if they don't go to the gym. and they won't go to the gym because the are fat and lazy, therefore basicly taxing them for being fat. :) |
Maybe the reason so many overweight people don't go to they gym is because they know they'll be around people with that attitude.
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Yep, dangerous slope, but numbers and statistics don't care about your race, religion, or sex. However, race should not be factored into health insurance simply because it wouldn't be worth the perceived "racism".
People with more expensive cars pay more auto insurance than those with cheap cars. Shouldn't people with more "costly" bodies pay more than physically fit people who will never fall apart due to being overweight? The costs of obesity are stagering, and are now meeting and exceeding the total health care costs of cigarettes. With all of the anti-smoking commercials, shouldn't there be some anti-fat ass commercials? Nah, that would piss people off to much. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by pnj
how come I never hear people complain about them?
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Originally Posted by Moistfly
Maybe the reason so many overweight people don't go to they gym is because they know they'll be around people with that attitude.
no, actually I just like being outside instead of inside simulating outdoor activitys. and for what it's worth, I'm married to a fat ass that smokes....:( |
Originally Posted by pnj
and for what it's worth, I'm married to a fat ass that smokes....:(
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Originally Posted by Moistfly
No, they have just as much right to their money as anyone else. If anything some of the money funneled into those public health programs should be placed into preventetive method programs. For example, a program that subsidizes the cost of a gym membership for obese people but requires them to log time at the gym to receive the money etc... :o
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Originally Posted by slvoid
You are in SOOOOO much trouble when said "fat ass" reads this. :D
she won't be reading this, I'm sure. |
Originally Posted by timmhaan
i think that food companies who sell products that are deemed harmful to one's health should have to contribute to the health care costs somewhat. sort of a "supply side" way of getting the money. the extra costs would be incorprated into the price of the food anyway, so essentially people that spend a lot of money on fast food will be paying more.
Warning: Eating this will make you bottom heavy. Warning: Fat people have less sex appeal. Warning: Blood can't flow through arteries congested with fat. Warning: If you get winded opening this package, you probably shouldn't eat the contents. |
Originally Posted by pnj
one of the arguments I see alot about not wearing helmets is that people say "our insurance rates go up because of you helmet less jerks!" (or something like that...)
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Originally Posted by pnj
one of the arguments I see alot about not wearing helmets is that people say "our insurance rates go up because of you helmet less jerks!" (or something like that...)
but I was just thinking about something along the same lines, that is, really really fat people. don't these people cause the insurance rates to go up along the same lines as helmet less folks? there are so many health related issues with being super fat. how come I never hear people complain about them? I can only imagine the annual company weigh-in. I wonder if it would be done right after the Christmas/New Years binge-fest? |
Originally Posted by Allister
How about warning labels like they do on cigarettes? (not that it does any good)
Warning: Eating this will make you bottom heavy. Warning: Fat people have less sex appeal. Warning: Blood can't flow through arteries congested with fat. Warning: If you get winded opening this package, you probably shouldn't eat the contents. |
Cuties riding without helmets really burn me up.
bkr |
Originally Posted by Allister
I'm never particularly impressed by selfishness dressed up as altruism.
but the argument could go both ways I think. the overweight person is selfish because they eat too much or the skinny person is selfish because they want eveyone to be like them. (yea, I know that probably makes no sense, I just woke up....:)) |
Originally Posted by Moistfly
Maybe the reason so many overweight people don't go to they gym is because they know they'll be around people with that attitude.
Before I moved to Nashville, friends from my hometown were all obese too. I would always get comments from them saying that I looked good and I wasn't really fat, so I just stayed big! I never had anyone to push me to lose weight and get into shape. So maybe that's what big people need, some push and humiliation! It helped me! It may hurt at the moment, but in the long-run, it will save their lives! |
I'm not into guilt as a motivator. But if it works for some all the better I suppose.
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Friend: Hey Bike Forum guy, what'd you do today?
Bike Forum Guy: I sat around on the bike forums and talked about how we're all so much better than fat people. Friend: Gee, you're cool. What a bunch of a-holes. You take attitudes like this on the road and then you wonder why drivers (and everyone else, for that matter) hate you. |
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