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Old 08-29-09, 08:41 AM
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SUV Hits Cyclist-Caught on Video

https://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11010104

Click on the "raw footage" link:

https://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11010104

The act was caught by a video camera on an off-duty bus.
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6. Stop, look, and listen, when coming to an intersection. LOOk both ways before crossing the street.
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Originally Posted by hotbike
https://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11010104

Click on the "raw footage" link:

https://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11010104

The act was caught by a video camera on an off-duty bus.
and the first comment starts with "unfortunate accident... "

That was no accident... that was a driver not paying attention!
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The bus was driving defensively.
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Originally Posted by genec
and the first comment starts with "unfortunate accident... "

That was no accident... that was a driver not paying attention!
Pretty clear thanks to the video.
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Originally Posted by genec
and the first comment starts with "unfortunate accident... "

That was no accident... that was a driver not paying attention!
My thoughts exactly when I read that comment.

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The driver was a state legislator (!).

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Anyone know how the bike rider is ?
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Looks exactly like the kind of wreck I had with a speeding car, even hit the same spot. Progressive Insurance denied the claim, even though the driver ran a stop sign at 20 mph. They claimed I should have known their policyholder was going to run the stop sign. Whatever. They eventually settled after I hired a lawyer and ran a huge obstacle course of the judicial system.

Hope the cyclist heals up!
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Makes one wonder how this would have turned out if there was no video footage. My guess is the driver would have claimed the cyclist ran a red, and no one would ever know the truth.
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Wow. That's horrible.

I hope the legislator gets some serious heat, fines, and any other appropriate punishment for running that red.

Even more than that, I hope the cyclist ends up physically good and financially better for that.

Finally, I'm amused that there was an ad for an SUV before the footage showed.
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Originally Posted by filtersweep
Makes one wonder how this would have turned out if there was no video footage. My guess is the driver would have claimed the cyclist ran a red, and no one would ever know the truth.
My thoughts exactly. Without that video the driver would absolutely have claimed he went through on the yellow and the cyclist ran the red.
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Originally Posted by genec
and the first comment starts with "unfortunate accident... "

That was no accident... that was a driver not paying attention!
https://dictionary.reference.com/browse/accident

...Just sayin.
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"hit with a car" should be used as a term instead of "accident"
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
My thoughts exactly. Without that video the driver would absolutely have claimed he went through on the yellow and the cyclist ran the red.
Of course in this case a witness (the bus driver) was present.
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Wow, just think...this cyclist could easily own his own legislator!
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Originally Posted by degnaw
Of course in this case a witness (the bus driver) was present.
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Makes one wonder how this would have turned out if there was no video footage. My guess is the driver would have claimed the cyclist ran a red, and no one would ever know the truth.
The end of the news cast was cut off, but just before the cut they were saying "one witness tells police, the witness to the accident, that the collision appears to be the bicyclist fault".

This cyclist is extremely lucky a video got recorded and turned in.
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My thoughts exactly. Without that video the driver would absolutely have claimed he went through on the yellow and the cyclist ran the red.

This is so true. Drivers will lie if they are at fault. This is so sad about society. People don't have the integrity to admit to the truth because it may inconvenience them, or raise their insurance, or have legal implications. It is sad, but we must prepare for this. (And not just for cyclists, even as a car driver)

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Originally Posted by apacherider
"hit with a car" should be used as a term instead of "accident"
Or "collision."

"Accident" implies that something occurred unintentionally. Now obviously the driver did not intend to hit someone... but was the driver actually paying attention, or had they directed their attention to some task other than driving... If so, then they intentionally chose to no longer pay attention to driving, and the result was a collision, not an accident.

The fact is that laws and signals pretty much cover all traffic situations, and if drivers actually paid attention to what they were doing behind the wheel, there would be few, if any "accidents."

Of course the evidence shows otherwise, and 40,000 people die each year due to preventable collisions, that are often mistakenly called "accidents." 1/3 of these collisions are due to inattention, 1/3 are due to excessive speed, and 1/3 are alcohol related in some fashion. The most common type of collision is rear ending someone... (these rough numbers were taken from NHTSA and FARS data)

Slow down and don't drink and drive and you have already prevented 2/3s of all possible collisions.
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Originally Posted by Omni.Potent
While clearly the 'driver' is racing the yellow light, the 'rider' should've never entered the intersection at his cruising speed. I suspect the bus was blocking his view of the suv running the light.

Green light or not, I'm not gonna blow into an intersection when the light just turned green. I'm slowing down and looking both ways for NASCAR wanna-beez.

Not saying the 'rider' is at fault in anyway. Just saying you gotta watch out for 4 wheel incompetence.
Gotta agree with you. Have had a couple of recent close calls as a cyclist with red light running motorists and it was scary. Have also recently noticed more random red light running autos... 2 in the last 2 days. One was close to hitting my wife as we started across the street together.

I don't have a solution. The only thing I can recommend is "you gotta watch out for 4 wheel incompetence."
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The collision was 2 sec after the light changed. At 30 mph that is nearly 90 ft travelled, so I am sure the car crossed on the red. When entering an intersection at the beginning of the green you dont pass traffic stopped on your left. You need to be able to watch for light racers on the cross street and left turners making a quick turn before traffic in your lane starts. Also traffic in your lane might make a sudden right turn.
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Actually the collision occurred at 2.8 seconds after the cyclist light turned green. Add another 1 second for an ALL RED light and you have the SUV driver hitting the cyclist 3.8 seconds after he had a RED light.

Plus you guys are starting to sound like the "one witness" who told police that it was the cyclist fault. With the bus already pulling into the intersection, you guys think the cyclist should have stopped at the green light, let the bus clear, look both ways (assuming other traffic in adjacent lanes are not now blocking his view) and then start from a dead stop to cross the intersection? Sounds very confusing to motorist as to the cyclist intentions and like an even better way to get right hooked or rear ended.

Sadly, even taking the lane would not have prevented a 2.8 second red light runner from hitting most cyclist.
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Originally Posted by hotbike
https://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11010104

Click on the "raw footage" link:

https://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11010104

The act was caught by a video camera on an off-duty bus.
Any more information on this? How is the cyclist doing, any charges filed?
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Originally Posted by apacherider
Looks exactly like the kind of wreck I had with a speeding car, even hit the same spot. Progressive Insurance denied the claim, even though the driver ran a stop sign at 20 mph. They claimed I should have known their policyholder was going to run the stop sign. Whatever. They eventually settled after I hired a lawyer and ran a huge obstacle course of the judicial system.

Hope the cyclist heals up!
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot??? So we're suppose to be mind readers now and "know" what the moron driving the cage is thinking and is getting ready to do???

I'm glad to hear that you did pursue the case and won a settlement.
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Originally Posted by genec
and the first comment starts with "unfortunate accident... "

That was no accident... that was a driver not paying attention!
Actually it starts with "terrible, unfortunate accident. . ." It was a totally avoidable accident, had mister legislature been paying attention to the road he wouldn't have hit the cyclist. He should lose his seat and have to do more then just community service, he should have to do some real time.
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