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09-23-11, 10:08 AM   #351
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Sent a followup email to my last post with this little section of The Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD), which has been administered by the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA)

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 Section 3B.10 Approach Markings for Obstructions Standard:01 Pavement markings shall be used to guide traffic away from fixed obstructions within a paved roadway. Approach markings for bridge supports, refuge islands, median islands, toll plaza islands, and raised channelization islands shall consist of a tapered line or lines extending from the center line or the lane line to a point 1 to 2 feet to the right-hand side, or to both sides, of the approach end of the obstruction (see Figure 3B-15).Figure 3B-15 Examples of Applications of Markings for Obstructions in the Roadway Support:02 See Chapter 3E for additional information on approach markings for toll plaza islands.Guidance:03 For roadways having a posted or statutory speed limit of 45 mph or greater, the taper length of the tapered line markings should be computed by the formula L = WS. For roadways where the posted or statutory speed limit is less than 45 mph, the formula L = WS2/60 should be used to compute the taper length.Support:04 Under both formulas, L equals the taper length in feet, W equals the width of the offset distance in feet, and S equals the 85th-percentile speed or the posted or statutory speed limit, whichever is higher.Guidance:05 The minimum taper length should be 100 feet in urban areas and 200 feet in rural areas.Support:06 Examples of approach markings for obstructions in the roadway are shown in Figure 3B-15.Standard:07 If traffic is required to pass only to the right of the obstruction, the markings shall consist of a two-direction no-passing zone marking at least twice the length of the diagonal portion as determined by the appropriate taper formula (see Drawing A of Figure 3B-15).Option:08 If traffic is required to pass only to the right of the obstruction, yellow diagonal crosshatch markings (see Section 3B.24) may be placed in the flush median area between the no-passing zone markings as shown in Drawings A and B of Figure 3B-15. Other markings, such as yellow delineators, yellow channelizing devices, yellow raised pavement markers, and white crosswalk pavement markings, may also be placed in the flush median area. Standard: 09 If traffic can pass either to the right or left of the obstruction, the markings shall consist of two channelizing lines diverging from the lane line, one to each side of the obstruction. In advance of the point of divergence, a wide solid white line or normal solid double white line shall be extended in place of the broken lane line for a distance equal to the length of the diverging lines (see Drawing C of Figure 3B-15).Option:10 If traffic can pass either to the right or left of the obstruction, additional white chevron crosshatch markings (see Section 3B.24) may be placed in the flush median area between the channelizing lines as shown in Drawing C of Figure 3B-15. Other markings, such as white delineators, white channelizing devices, white raised pavement markers, and white crosswalk markings may also be placed in the flush median area.

09-28-11, 01:39 PM   #352
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Sent this to several people in the city, advocacy groups, the media, and legal system a few weeks ago...

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 In the photo below, you can clearly see that my bike was going against traffic... Thus this grate isn't a danger, Right? Wrong... Below is a photo taken on 2011/8/14... You might remember the 2011 Providence Bridge Pedal? Where over 19,000 cyclists may have ridden past this grate, going against traffic (legally). I was riding with someone, who was ahead of me, so I couldn't wait to get cyclists in the pictures... But I used a nearby cone to mark the hazard, then called it into the 24 Hour Maintenance Hotline (503) 823 1700. And on Thursday 2011/9/16, I went back to see what it looked like... Nothing has been done. How much did PDX pay out to Gary Dunkley? (answer \$100,000 http://bikeportland.org/2007/10/31/c...ate-spill-5732) When I call in a hazard, it's REAL... and fixing them is a lot cheaper than settlements in the long run. Lets get these things fixed before someone else gets hurt.

This is what I found the other day when I went back to check in on it...

You can move mountains with enough leverage.

I've sent a "Thank You" note since then.

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 10-03-11, 10:55 PM #353 K'Tesh Commander, UFO Bike Thread Starter     Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Subject to change Bikes: Giant, Trek Posts: 1,363 Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 2 Post(s) Back to the Sunset MUP... Here's a couple of day and night photos before ODOT went to work: And some from tonight's "after". Took them tonight at 7pm(ish). See Something? DO SOMETHING!!! K'Tesh Last edited by K'Tesh; 10-03-11 at 10:59 PM.
10-04-11, 08:03 PM   #354
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I took these pictures today. Then I told the city in question, about the problem. The bushes n' leaves are halfway out into the path.

The contact info they gave me, as far as the phone # for the 'public works' department didn't work.

So, I am going to see if they even care to do anything about it.
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 10-05-11, 10:42 AM #355 hotbike Senior Member     Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Long Island, New York Bikes: a lowrider BMX, a mountain bike, a faired recumbent, and a loaded touring bike Posts: 3,064 Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 81 Post(s) "halfway out into the path"...? That's putting it mildly. Looks more like three quarters out into the path.
10-10-11, 02:28 PM   #356
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 Originally Posted by hotbike "halfway out into the path"...? That's putting it mildly. Looks more like three quarters out into the path.
Three cheers for your keen eye!!!

Yes, You are right!!

It is 75% into the path. An even more pressing issue on the sidewalk of that same road, about 2mi. north, is the dead carcass of a deer, it isn't an adult. The deer was hit n' killed sometime between last Thursday evening and, last Friday evening.

I have called the county police, the fire department('hoping' they could use their HazMat truck to pick it up and dispose of it), and the Humane Society. They all had one excuse after another for not bothering to pick up the deer. I can smell the deer carcass a 100yds. away it is so putrid.

Since it is on a state road, I am almost thinking of calling the state's DNR. The deer is on the route that gives me a good hill workout.

If there is anything to be positive about the situation, when I have been up in that direction, I have been warning people, that if they head in the direction of the deer carcass, to be ready for the awful stench.

I am going to call Animal Control in the morning. This is getting ridiculous.

10-10-11, 02:33 PM   #357
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Excellent. Plenty of advance notice of a path hazard.

 10-12-11, 05:05 AM #358 hotbike Senior Member     Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Long Island, New York Bikes: a lowrider BMX, a mountain bike, a faired recumbent, and a loaded touring bike Posts: 3,064 Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 81 Post(s) Yes. A few years back there was a dead possum on the Bike Route (to Bayville, on Long Islands North Shore)and it absolutely stank. You couldn't breathe. Made my eyes water, and the flies were horrendous . Anyway, I got around to clearing weeds from a Bike Lane on Saturday, and finished the job yesterday (tuesday) and managed to flag down a Glen Cove Beautification pickup truck, to ask about having the piles of weeds hauled away. It was too much for his small pickup, he said he would call someone at a city office and have a bigger full size pickup haul away the weeds. I made three piles, each three feet high. The weeds in this case were the bushy kind, and they branched out and covered 125% of the bike lane. the whole area between the curb and the fog line, including the zebra stripes, and completely obscuring the fog line from view. I used hedge trimmers; did not pull them up. Didn't want the dirt from the roots getting in my sandals. I thought I was going to die from over exertion, but I drank all my water and went home. Sunday and monday were hot~ 85 degrees F, and Monday was a holiday (Columbus day) so the city trucks wouldn't be available neither those two days . Sorry, No pictures. I have to wonder if it's worth photographing piles of dead weeds, I have better stuff I can fill my album with. But like I said, it was too much for a small pickup truck , and a full size pickup had to be called in, picture it in your mind.
 10-12-11, 07:47 AM #359 Chris516 24-Speed Machine     Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wash. Grove, MD Bikes: 2003 Specialized Allez 24-Speed Road Bike Posts: 6,061 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) I called the city about the weeds and overgrown bushes in the pics I posted. They told me that section of the road(which is considered to be a state highway) is the state's responsibility. So I called the state highway administration. They told me that they only had one guy for the entire county doing that sort of stuff. If that were true, why do I see state road crews with two or three guys to the crew. The dead deer I found on the bike trail last week, a couple miles north of there, is definitely going to require more than one person.
10-12-11, 08:10 AM   #360
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 Originally Posted by hotbike Yes. A few years back there was a dead possum on the Bike Route (to Bayville, on Long Islands North Shore)and it absolutely stank. You couldn't breathe. Made my eyes water, and the flies were horrendous . Anyway, I got around to clearing weeds from a Bike Lane on Saturday, and finished the job yesterday (tuesday) and managed to flag down a Glen Cove Beautification pickup truck, to ask about having the piles of weeds hauled away. It was too much for his small pickup, he said he would call someone at a city office and have a bigger full size pickup haul away the weeds. I made three piles, each three feet high. The weeds in this case were the bushy kind, and they branched out and covered 125% of the bike lane. the whole area between the curb and the fog line, including the zebra stripes, and completely obscuring the fog line from view. I used hedge trimmers; did not pull them up. Didn't want the dirt from the roots getting in my sandals. I thought I was going to die from over exertion, but I drank all my water and went home. Sunday and monday were hot~ 85 degrees F, and Monday was a holiday (Columbus day) so the city trucks wouldn't be available neither those two days . Sorry, No pictures. I have to wonder if it's worth photographing piles of dead weeds, I have better stuff I can fill my album with. But like I said, it was too much for a small pickup truck , and a full size pickup had to be called in, picture it in your mind.
I don't have to picture it in my mind... I've lived it...

The load of weeds and black locust trees I cleared from N. Interstate Ave. by KTesh

10-12-11, 12:39 PM   #361
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 Originally Posted by K'Tesh I don't have to picture it in my mind... I've lived it... The load of weeds and black locust trees I cleared from N. Interstate Ave. by KTesh
While I don't have vehicle, I think once the pavement is dry again(since it rained last night), I will just bike up to location in the pics I previously posted, and just use my bare hands to clear away the overgrown portion of the bushes, then just throw all of it back behind the bushes. The state can clean up the mess after-the-fact.

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 Originally Posted by Chris516 While I don't have vehicle, I think once the pavement is dry again(since it rained last night), I will just bike up to location in the pics I previously posted, and just use my bare hands to clear away the overgrown portion of the bushes, then just throw all of it back behind the bushes. The state can clean up the mess after-the-fact.
I typically find that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission when it comes to bike/ped infrastructure.

Sorry I didn't mention it earlier, but Thanks for taking up the cause you guys!

 10-13-11, 09:53 AM #363 hotbike Senior Member     Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Long Island, New York Bikes: a lowrider BMX, a mountain bike, a faired recumbent, and a loaded touring bike Posts: 3,064 Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 81 Post(s) Thanks for the picture. What are those- Light Rail Tracks? Anyway, the weeds were not picked up, despite a phoner call to DPW. And when I went by to check, there were workers doing something else (flushing a fire hydrant), and I told them, too. I went back again with nylon twine, they were gone, and I bundled the debris into FOUR bundles, about fifty pounds each (they got wet, it rained), And another DPW truck came by, and I talked with the driver, and he said they would pick it up Tomorrow. But the bundled weeds are now out of the road shoulder (zebra stripes, "bike Lane"), so I don't really care. Now if they can run a street sweeper through, it will be fine.
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 Originally Posted by K'Tesh I typically find that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission when it comes to bike/ped infrastructure. Sorry I didn't mention it earlier, but Thanks for taking up the cause you guys!
Please expound on that? Unless I am misinterpreting what you mean, I have been forgiving on the aforementioned overgrowth, to the point that I would get off my bike and walk my bike past it. I had been doing this for more than a year. When I finally felt, 'enough is enough' and started getting on the authorities to take care of it. The other day when I had checked of the status of the previously mentioned dead deer, I stopped at the overgrown bushes and started taking care of them myself, with just my bare hands. I will check again, when it stops raining.

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 Originally Posted by Chris516 Please expound on that? Unless I am misinterpreting what you mean, I have been forgiving on the aforementioned overgrowth, to the point that I would get off my bike and walk my bike past it. I had been doing this for more than a year. When I finally felt, 'enough is enough' and started getting on the authorities to take care of it. The other day when I had checked of the status of the previously mentioned dead deer, I stopped at the overgrown bushes and started taking care of them myself, with just my bare hands. I will check again, when it stops raining.
Read my comment as "cut first, ask forgiveness later". It can't hurt to also photograph before, during, and after (multiple angles help). I've never been arrested for my actions. I feel that if I ever was, and I had photographs showing the conditions, I think that would sway a judge/jury into my favor (especially if I can show that I tried to contact the authorities in the past, and nothing was done). Often municipalities have ordinances banning overhanging vegitation, and can have steep fines (Beaverton will charge you \$250/day for overgrowing blackberries or other noxious vegetation if you are cited).

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 10-15-11, 12:45 PM #366 hotbike Senior Member     Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Long Island, New York Bikes: a lowrider BMX, a mountain bike, a faired recumbent, and a loaded touring bike Posts: 3,064 Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 81 Post(s) Roadside Vegetation Management-Keeping the Bike Lanes Clear Thought I'd show what these tools look like. Hedge Cutters. Pruning Shears. Lopping Shears (which I've often referred to). These have a Lot of Leverage, due to the long handles, relative to the short blades. Wood Saw. This saw is shown with it's cardboard sheath. The blade is VERY Sharp , and care should be used not to cut anyone, or blood loss.
 10-15-11, 03:23 PM #367 K'Tesh Commander, UFO Bike Thread Starter     Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Subject to change Bikes: Giant, Trek Posts: 1,363 Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 2 Post(s) Thanks for the photos hotbike, I figured I should do the same. So, here's my Weapons of Choice... Pruning Saw, Compound-Action Bypass Lopper, Victorinox Swiss Army (Ranger Model) Knife, Bypass Pruning Shears, and a Machete.
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 Originally Posted by K'Tesh Read my comment as "cut first, ask forgiveness later". It can't hurt to also photograph before, during, and after (multiple angles help). I've never been arrested for my actions. I feel that if I ever was, and I had photographs showing the conditions, I think that would sway a judge/jury into my favor (especially if I can show that I tried to contact the authorities in the past, and nothing was done). Often municipalities have ordinances banning overhanging vegitation, and can have steep fines (Beaverton will charge you \$250/day for overgrowing blackberries or other noxious vegetation if you are cited).
I don't know why it didn't register the first time I read it. This time I understood it immediately.

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 Originally Posted by hotbike Roadside Vegetation Management-Keeping the Bike Lanes Clear Thought I'd show what these tools look like. Hedge Cutters. Pruning Shears. Lopping Shears (which I've often referred to). These have a Lot of Leverage, due to the long handles, relative to the short blades. Wood Saw. This saw is shown with it's cardboard sheath. The blade is VERY Sharp , and care should be used not to cut anyone, or blood loss.
The pruning shears are, what I need to find. So I go clean up the bushes that are intruding on the bike path.

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 Originally Posted by Chris516 The pruning shears are, what I need to find. So I go clean up the bushes that are intruding on the bike path.
The small pruning shears are easy to carry. The other tools require large panniers.
I recommend ones with plastic handles, because they are lighter. The ones with metal handles weigh too much, Although I did have a pair , with plastic handles, that broke, but I got plenty of use out of them (like eight seasons).

TODAY's JOB:
Used the hedge trimers to remove vines from a fence, on a curve, at the bottom of a hill where there is an intersection.

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 Originally Posted by hotbike The small pruning shears are easy to carry. The other tools require large panniers. I recommend ones with plastic handles, because they are lighter. The ones with metal handles weigh too much, Although I did have a pair , with plastic handles, that broke, but I got plenty of use out of them (like eight seasons). TODAY's JOB: Used the hedge trimmers to remove vines from a fence, on a curve, at the bottom of a hill where there is an intersection.
I will check to make sure the handles are plastic.

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 Originally Posted by hotbike Yes. A few years back there was a dead possum on the Bike Route (to Bayville, on Long Islands North Shore)and it absolutely stank. You couldn't breathe. Made my eyes water, and the flies were horrendous . Anyway, I got around to clearing weeds from a Bike Lane on Saturday, and finished the job yesterday (tuesday) and managed to flag down a Glen Cove Beautification pickup truck, to ask about having the piles of weeds hauled away. It was too much for his small pickup, he said he would call someone at a city office and have a bigger full size pickup haul away the weeds. I made three piles, each three feet high. The weeds in this case were the bushy kind, and they branched out and covered 125% of the bike lane. the whole area between the curb and the fog line, including the zebra stripes, and completely obscuring the fog line from view. I used hedge trimmers; did not pull them up. Didn't want the dirt from the roots getting in my sandals. I thought I was going to die from over exertion, but I drank all my water and went home. Sunday and monday were hot~ 85 degrees F, and Monday was a holiday (Columbus day) so the city trucks wouldn't be available neither those two days . Sorry, No pictures. I have to wonder if it's worth photographing piles of dead weeds, I have better stuff I can fill my album with. But like I said, it was too much for a small pickup truck , and a full size pickup had to be called in, picture it in your mind.

Here's a picture AFTER, above. Neither the fog line nor the zebra stripes were visible before. You can see where I hacked the weeds away with the hedge clippers, lower right. And the city did send a street sweeper though before I took this picture. I see some stragglers , but it's nothing compared to how bad it was.

Then, when you get to the next intersection, you can ride on a physically separated bike path through Pratt Park:

The city plans to continue the separated path along the whole length of Glen Cove Creek. Sections are in place at either end, but there is a missing piece in the middle. The shoulder I cleared is the on-road connection between the two discontiguous sections at either end.