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Old 07-28-04, 09:05 PM
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Does anyone carry a gun when riding his or her bike? I知 not a violent person (no matter what the warden says).
I知 riding my bike in a residential neighborhood. I知 just about to make a left turn, I'm with my left arm out signaling a left turn and this b---- passes me nearly taking my arm off. I swear if I had a gun I would have put some holes in her car if not her. I was mad!
So, I知 wandering, whom if anyone carries a gun and where is it?

Okay, Okay! I was just venting. I own several guns and I'm a very good shot with all. Gun powder and anger do not mix. Being a nurse and having been through two wars I know first hand what a bullet(s) can do to the human body.

I would never use a gun except to save my family. I haven't gone hunting with bow or gun in many years.

If I new how to close this thread I would.

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Lookout! Kathleen! NO!

The gun threads are the worst! Every gun loving cyclist in the U.S is gun na come posting.

I bet the thread replies go into 1000's. The only question more toxic would be ' What firearm is best for firing while riding?'

Good luck, can't wait to read the replies. I'm Canadian, we only get hunting rifles and they are near impossible to fire when cycling.

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Warden lets you cycle when on you're on a daypass? That's a commited cyclist. HaHaaa.

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Originally Posted by Kathleen
Does anyone carry a gun when riding his or her bike? I知 not a violent person (no matter what the warden says).
I知 riding my bike in a residential neighborhood. I知 just about to make a left turn, I'm with my left arm out signaling a left turn and this b---- passes me nearly taking my arm off. I swear if I had a gun I would have put some holes in her car if not her. I was mad!
So think for a moment about "putting some holes in her car", and then ask yourself what would have happened next?
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So think for a moment about "putting some holes in her car", and then ask yourself what would have happened next?

Fired right back at you, and you don't have a car to shield you.

Buy fully automatic, spray the car, swiss cheese the thing. Your only chance is surprise and a total elimination of target before fire is returned.

Or take the licence number to the police. They have guns and legally can use them. Not sure about joe average cyclist popping drivers for bad moves. The courts will decide. Might not reflect well on cycling, and policing though.

You'll have less niegbours soon. Or some new ones you don't get to choose..Like 'Rocko', and 'Killer'.

You got to chill a bit cycling, some fights yes, but getting run down 'cause you got a big mouth is quite probable with some ill folks.

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Old 07-28-04, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kathleen
Does anyone carry a gun when riding his or her bike? I知 not a violent person (no matter what the warden says).
I知 riding my bike in a residential neighborhood. I知 just about to make a left turn, I'm with my left arm out signaling a left turn and this b---- passes me nearly taking my arm off. I swear if I had a gun I would have put some holes in her car if not her. I was mad!
So, I知 wandering, whom if anyone carries a gun and where is it?

Please type 'gun' into the search field, and settle for an evening or eight's reading.

I really hope you never do get a gun. They are not a tool for vengeance, they are a tool for defence.
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Old 07-28-04, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kathleen
Does anyone carry a gun when riding his or her bike? I知 not a violent person (no matter what the warden says).
I知 riding my bike in a residential neighborhood. I知 just about to make a left turn, I'm with my left arm out signaling a left turn and this b---- passes me nearly taking my arm off. I swear if I had a gun I would have put some holes in her car if not her. I was mad!
So, I知 wandering, whom if anyone carries a gun and where is it?
Tell me this what if the car that you were hit by had toddlers or babies in the back, and you fire at the windshield and kill someone in that car, how would you feel? Obviously you wern't too hurt, or you wouldn't be able to fire a gun, and you wanna take someone life? Thats the stupidest thing i've ever herd. And then you say your not a violent person.. Judging by what you just said I would hate to be any where near you if you had a gun.
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I swear if I had a gun I would have put some holes in her car if not her.
Good thing you didn't have one, eh?
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Old 07-28-04, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kathleen
Does anyone carry a gun when riding his or her bike? I知 not a violent person (no matter what the warden says).
I知 riding my bike in a residential neighborhood. I知 just about to make a left turn, I'm with my left arm out signaling a left turn and this b---- passes me nearly taking my arm off. I swear if I had a gun I would have put some holes in her car if not her. I was mad!
So, I知 wandering, whom if anyone carries a gun and where is it?

I'm a gun owner and hunter. I also target shoot to keep my skill level up. Read your post over again. From what happened, you would have pulled out a gun and started shooting. The woman did something stupid that endangered you, but was not "trying" to hurt you. If she had actually harmed you, even though unintentionally, I personally believe jail time would be in order, just as if she'd used a firearm unintentionally, but deadly force for a mistake would be unacceptable. I only carry a gun while hunting.
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Old 07-28-04, 10:12 PM
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I've thought about it, but a .357 is a fair amount of extra weight to carry around, and I'm already carrying enough that's still attached to me.
From a rational standpoint though, the most likely reason for me to ever have need of a gun while on a bicycle would involve a car and an assault on me. I'd probably be too busy trying to recover or get back up to try to take a shot, and shooting at a vehicle moving away from me isn't going to stand up as self defense.
Now if I was directly confronted by someone on foot, a scenario that might stand up as self defense, am I going to be able to get to a weapon and use it, or am I going to be handing over a weapon to someone that's more prone to violence already?
At 5-10 and 200 lbs (maybe 20 lbs of it "extra") I don't present an attractive target for direct harrasment, and if they are in a moving car, they don't present a good target for self defense. So as a big proponent of the right to own guns, I wouldn't carry one with me while riding unless I was having to ride through an area that I was real uncomfortable having to ride through. Certainly not for any recreational riding.
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Old 07-28-04, 10:51 PM
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This may, or may not, be a photo of the last clown that tried to cut me off in the background behind me.



By toting an AT4 - AntiTank Rocket Launcher #4 - across my shoulders I know approaching motorists know I can reach out and touch them upto 400 meters away. The downsides to the AT4 are that it does screw with my aero, it weighs in at 16 lbs and replacements are $1000. Just try getting one at K-Mart in this liberal country. However, it is an amazing conversation starter with other cyclists.



- Joking

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I carry a handgun everywhere I go. It is my 2nd Amendment Freedom and I choose to exercise that Freedom. Just because someone chooses to carry while riding or otherwise. Doesnt mean they are out to Kill or shoot anyone. It is their protection if and when needed. Kel Tec P32 or P3AT conceals very well while riding.

Ps You better know the Law and get firearm training before you start carrying a firearm or any other weapon. Until then, If I were you Id stay away from guns. You could end up in a lot of trouble.

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Originally Posted by JoeTown244GL
This may, or may not, be a photo of the last clown that tried to cut me off in the background behind me.



By toting an AT4 - AntiTank Rocket Launcher #4 - across my shoulders I know approaching motorists know I can reach out and touch them upto 400 meters away. The downsides to the AT4 are that it does screw with my aero, it weighs in at 16 lbs and replacements are $1000. Just try getting one at K-Mart in this liberal country. However, it is an amazing conversation starter with other cyclists.



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HAHAHHAHAHAHHA!
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Originally Posted by operator
HAHAHHAHAHAHHA!
Ya, turning into a nice thread, where are the shooters? KILL BILL, etc all.



Warden lets you cycle when on you're on a daypass? That's a commited cyclist. HaHaaa.

c'mon, that's really funny. I need applause, or apple sauce.

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Originally Posted by Kathleen
So, I知 wandering, whom if anyone carries a gun and where is it?
Operator nice post hahaha

Shooting at people because they drive too close to you is just stupid I hope this is a joke.

I don't want to be picky (Ok yes I do) but it should be "WHO if anyone carries a gun" not "whom".
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Originally Posted by royalflash
Operator nice post hahaha

Shooting at people because they drive too close to you is just stupid I hope this is a joke.

I don't want to be picky (Ok yes I do) but it should be "WHO if anyone carries a gun" not "whom".

"I hope this is a joke." Apple sauce, TOMATO SAUCE.

Bit different spraying out of someones body.

Apple sauce I can deal with.
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Originally Posted by jeff williams
Ya, turning into a nice thread, where are the shooters? KILL BILL, etc all.



Warden lets you cycle when on you're on a daypass? That's a commited cyclist. HaHaaa.

c'mon, that's really funny. I need applause, or apple sauce.

I think all of the shooters on this forum can see how stupid this would be. Contrary to the popular media, almost all of the folks who cary a fire arm arn't out to just blast away at who ever they see fit.

If you have no self control, don't get a gun! The End
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Originally Posted by mrdoright0405
I carry a handgun everywhere I go. It is my 2nd Amendment Freedom and I choose to exercise that Freedom. Just because someone chooses to carry while riding or otherwise. Doesnt mean they are out to Kill or shoot anyone. It is their protection if and when needed. Kel Tec P32 or P3AT conceals very well while riding.

Ps You better know the Law and get firearm training before you start carrying a firearm or any other weapon. Until then, If I were you Id stay away from guns. You could end up in a lot of trouble.
Not everybody has the 2nd Admendment freedom.
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I live in Maryland and work in DC, so unless I become a celebrity, it is unlikely I would ever be allowed to protect myself with a weapon legally, outside of my home. I am a member of the NRA, and definitely would prefer it if I were allowed by law to bear arms. That said, I have borne arms 24/7 on foreign soil, defending the US, and would be the first to declare that having to tote the damned things everywhere was a royal pita. I am also an attorney, and would suggest that Kathleen's original post implies she is not well trained in firearms use, self-defense law, or anger management. My concept of freedom is that it depends on great self-discipline on the part of those exercising freedom. If you carry a weapon which might impose great harm, you have both a moral duty and a legal duty to be proficient and responsible. Your right to inflict harm on others only comes when there mght be a greater harm imposed if you do not inflict harm. Once a vehicle has passed you, there is no immediate likelihood of anyone being harmed.

Unfortunately, some real people do get arms and act as Kathleen says she had wished to. The good news is that these folks are relatively rare. The most interesting tidbit from the extensive increases in right-to-carry statutes in various states is that relatively few people actually exercise their rights-to-carry, and a meaninglessly small proportion of them abuse their rights. The concealed carry permits have been a very dull firecracker indeed, with none of the dire predictions of anti-gun rights groups eventuating, but at the same time very little beneficial effect, because so few folks have availed themselves of the new privileges or rights.

As a bicyclist I would suggest that there are two main reasons to carry a firearm. You might carry one to protect yourself against violent criminals, and you might carry one to defend yourself against viscious animals. The down side is the places you are most likely to need protection from violent criminals, such as my native New York City, and other large cities, are the very places there are the most stringent anti-gun right laws. I think that using a gun to protect yourself from dangerous motorists is not as good an idea, because it is likely to be ineffective, and significantly dangerous to innocent parties.

On the other hand, and not related to guns carried for defense, if the game laws permit it, it might be interesting to hunt from a bike, or using a bike to get in and out of the hunting area.

Whatever you do, if you are going to use a gun, get education in the law, and training in use of your weapon, particularly under the kind of stressful situations you might face. Most folks I know have never fired a fiream under limited light conditions, for example, yet limited light seems to draw out the most violent offenders. You should also search you own soul carefully, and honestly answer for yourself the question of whether you can be counted on to restrain yorself when you are angry.
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Getting a gun license to posses a handgun is pretty hard, because theres many petty crimes that will stop you from doing so, however getting a license to carry a concealed weapon is even harder.. Anyone that is angry should not have a gun, if you feel that you would shoot someone for minor things like above, you shouldn't have a gun.. I don't blame them, their trying to get guns out of NY.. Giving a gun to somebody because their a cyclist would be stupid, and thats how they'd see it.. And when you think about it as far as animals go you don't need a gun in that situation.. In big cities its probably smart to stay out of the "bad areas" and unless your being held at gun point or, someone pulls a gun on you theres no reason for a gun, and I doubt that will happen if you stick to the good areas. Guns should only be used in life threating situations, I mean if someone starts yelling out the window, what are you gonna pull a gun on them for it, sounds stupid. Any cyclist that carries a gun isn't doing it for self protection alone, but so they feel big and, can say I carry a gun.. Which are unacceptable reasons. Any person that feels so much in danger their gonna carry a gun all the time needs to get a body gaurd or go see a doctor.
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Man alive, I don't know about carrying one while biking. That just seems like a whole can of worms I don't want to deal with. Although having a concealed weapon in your car is another story. A guy ahead of my buddy hit a deer awhile back and the animal was suffering and kicking on the road. My buddy was right behind so he saw everything. He went back into his truck, grabbed his Glock and put the animal out of its misery. Why does he carry a gun in his truck? Because he can. I don't feel like I need to carry a gun wherever I go, but that is my business. Same holds true for him. If anyone wants to carry a weapon, feel free. We do have the right to bear arms in this country. This is probably going to open up a whole debate, but that's what's great about the US and most countries for that matter. Freedom of opinion, we are allowed to do that.
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Man alive, I don't know about carrying one while biking. That just seems like a whole can of worms I don't want to deal with. Although having a concealed weapon in your car is another story. A guy ahead of my buddy hit a deer awhile back and the animal was suffering and kicking on the road. My buddy was right behind so he saw everything. He went back into his truck, grabbed his Glock and put the animal out of its misery. Why does he carry a gun in his truck? Because he can. I don't feel like I need to carry a gun wherever I go, but that is my business. Same holds true for him. If anyone wants to carry a weapon, feel free. We do have the right to bear arms in this country. This is probably going to open up a whole debate, but that's what's great about the US and most countries for that matter. Freedom of opinion, we are allowed to do that.
This might explain why we have the highest murder rate too..
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Man alive, I don't know about carrying one while biking. That just seems like a whole can of worms I don't want to deal with.
I will second that, carrying a firearm is a huge responsibility.
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While I have had near encounters with copperheads while riding they didn't attack so I didn't. This seems like the most likely use of a firearm while riding. Take a class in firearms safety or read one of Mas Aaoob's books and see what can happen to some one that takes an "unnecessary" shot at some one, for that matter the aftermath of even a necessary shot is not pleasent. Post tramatic shock syndrom may be the least of your problems if you actually shot at some one even worse if some one was hurt.
Calm down just wave and smile at the offending driver they will eventually catch on and be careful.

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