Originally Posted by tadawdy
(Post 10069976)
What cyclists know, but drivers fail to realize, is that moving slower can be way more efficient when you're dealing w/traffic signals. Gun it, stop. Gun it, stop. It's really kind of stupid, but people do it all the time, even when they should be aware that the light just turned red.
I say "should be" because I am aware of this, and have no issue moving along at my own pace while the walk timer for cross traffic is ticking down. Of course, looking ahead and being thoughtful can provide a lot of insight and a useful level of forecasting to be more efficient. However, your efficiency will not get you to your destination faster when you're up against the kind of horsepower available to a modern motorist (you might glide through a light almost at speed, but the stopped car next to you can get up to speed in a couple of seconds). |
Originally Posted by mechBgon
(Post 10068783)
Seriously though... if I'm getting belligerent or impatient behavior from a motorist, it's best to just let them go on ahead of me, where I can keep an eye on them. That applies to both riding and driving. |
Originally Posted by crhilton
(Post 10071095)
They've been trained by suburban driving where lights are triggered and not timed. The light time is basically random, so gunning it does give you a small time advantage in that it increases your chance of making the next light.
At night and during some non-rush hour times, the lights revert back to the sensors. One highway on my commute is timed for a 20 mph speed. |
Originally Posted by CB HI
(Post 10069865)
Some of you guys are strange. Calling a legal pass of a car, some sort of road rage.
It might be one upping them, but it is by NO means road rage. A U-lock to the mirror or window (other than self defense); now that is road rage. |
Originally Posted by eerickson7
(Post 10067822)
I know waiting behind is safer, but it sure is frustrating. What do you do?
What would I do? Sit back and enjoy this "instructional" video: http://vimeo.com/7171146 Use what you want...ignore the rest. |
On an urban or otherwise narrow street, time it in the lane (the whole lane) to avoid the situation in the first place, or wait behind those who pass.
If there is a shoulder ahead, especially if a car passes just to rush to a red light, I filter, as it's no real hassle for the cars I pass at the light to then pass me again. If the road is narrow ahead, I wait. |
Originally Posted by CB HI
(Post 10069865)
Some of you guys are strange. Calling a legal pass of a car, some sort of road rage.
It might be one upping them, but it is by NO means road rage. A U-lock to the mirror or window (other than self defense); now that is road rage. I once had a guy in a Mustang move to the center lane of a 3 lane road to "get around me..." it was a perfectly "legal" move, but the way he did it was with quite a bit of violence and bravado. First he rev'ed the engine a number of times (no doubt he was just trying to keep that cam warm... right?) He then abruptly moved from behind me, cutting off a car to his left, then accelerated hard, and then swung it right, hard and fast... gaining only about 12-16 feet, but causing the motorists to the left and behind to lock up their brakes in the mean time. A perfectly legal lane change (albeit no turn signals), but executed in a way that was filled with rage. |
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Genec, consider the difference of written words such as "a legal pass of a car" verses "a legal pass by a car". In context of my reply to prior post calling cyclist a form of road ragers for passing a car that had previously passed the cyclist, it should be clear that my words spoke of legal passing of a car by "the cyclist" is not road rage. |
Originally Posted by genec
(Post 10075153)
I once had a guy in a Mustang move to the center lane of a 3 lane road to "get around me..." it was a perfectly "legal" move, but the way he did it was with quite a bit of violence and bravado. First he rev'ed the engine a number of times (no doubt he was just trying to keep that cam warm... right?) He then abruptly moved from behind me, cutting off a car to his left, then accelerated hard, and then swung it right, hard and fast... gaining only about 12-16 feet, but causing the motorists to the left and behind to lock up their brakes in the mean time. A perfectly legal lane change (albeit no turn signals), but executed in a way that was filled with rage.
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Originally Posted by CB HI
(Post 10076068)
^^^
Genec, consider the difference of written words such as "a legal pass of a car" verses "a legal pass by a car". In context of my reply to prior post calling cyclist a form of road ragers for passing a car that had previously passed the cyclist, it should be clear that my words spoke of legal passing of a car by "the cyclist" is not road rage. |
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