snowplow
buzzed by a plow truck today. Dropped his plow on dry pavement as he swung past me.
disappointed, but not surprised. |
Originally Posted by vengeful_lemon
(Post 10123393)
buzzed by a plow truck today. Dropped his plow on dry pavement as he swung past me.
disappointed, but not surprised. Either way did you get any information off the so that you can file a report with the proper individuals? |
The same thing happened to me a few days ago. It is most scary because I witnessed the minimal training they receive. They learn how to use the machinery, but have no clue where the back of their truck is.
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Not a city truck, but i think it had commercial plates, based on # of digits, so probably a contractor or from a local college.
Only got the last two letters of the plate - I was in the middle of a long climb, full load of groceries, and he was probably doing fifty. Not sure that anyone is concerned about reports of aggressive driving, anyway. RedRider: did you get the impression that he was simply trying to intimidate you? It's strange how (especially on city periphery), professional drivers can be quite aggressive; I would imagine that they might take pride in doing their job respectfully. This certainly not universal, though.
Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy
(Post 10123722)
Was this a municipal plow truck or a private truck?
Either way did you get any information off the so that you can file a report with the proper individuals? |
Are you talking about a pickup with a blade, or a proper plow truck?
Here's what I think of as a snow plow: http://local4traffic.files.wordpress.../snow-plow.jpg |
^^ looks to me like he needs another axle and 2 more feet of blade to be a real plow truck
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Originally Posted by vengeful_lemon
(Post 10123393)
buzzed by a plow truck today. Dropped his plow on dry pavement as he swung past me.
disappointed, but not surprised. -Kurt |
Originally Posted by dedhed
(Post 10131744)
^^ looks to me like he needs another axle and 2 more feet of blade to be a real plow truck
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Does it matter what a "real plow is" ? Having relocated in the south, I don't miss the NE at all. The winter's not fun; the snow and moreover all that goes with it is why.
That's why the "real" aspect matters more with the driver than the equipment. Any ol' fool can be plowing when it snows; landscapers have lawn rakers W/O licenses do it ; municipal workers, those who normally clean or maintain the garage are put behind the wheel of the plow truck as well as pro- drivers. The rusults are the same mostly. Too many nitwits on the road who can't plow with correct equip. or not. |
It matters what a real plow is because a guy in a pickup with a blade on the front really has no excuse; he's basically driving a passenger vehicle, and if he drops the blade next to you, he's probably intentionally trying to intimidate you.
A guy driving a 3 axle heavy truck with a blade that could toss some cars aside is probably just doing his job, and may not even have been that aware of you specifically. Up in the UP, if you're trying to drive around between 3 and 6 AM, you are just on your own. The snowplows and tractors (they use front end loaders with car-sized buckets to remove snow from downtown streets) OWN the road - they're going to be driving the wrong way up one-way streets, be crosswise in the road as they're cleaning parallel parking spots, etc. No matter what you're driving, you better just wait and HOPE you can get by safely soon. If it's a pickup with a blade, that's not a problem, though they sometimes drive across the road without much warning if they're trying to clear their driveways too. |
Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
(Post 10133085)
yeah, it's not a real plow truck, but it's the minimum that I consider to be a proper road service vehicle doing plowing. When I lived where there was real snow, they used road graders with wing attachments to push the roadside snowbanks down to only 3 or 4 feet high, and they had snow blowers mounted on very heavy, dedicated diesel rigs with 7-by-7 foot multi-auger intakes and a 4 foot impeller, throwing snow about 60 feet (because when you get 250+ inches of snow a year, you can't just keep pushing it to the side - eventually there's nowhere left to push it).
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Originally Posted by Wogsterca
(Post 10133607)
Any truck with air brakes and more then 10 tonnes capacity is a real plow, around here many of them have dump buckets that can be raised either way, and spreaders behind the cab so they can dump chemical snow remover on the road (read salt). You often need a special licence for a larger truck with air brakes, which would include the truck pictured above.
For the purpose of this exercise though, mutipurpose trucks with large snow blades on them count as "real plows". |
Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
(Post 10133704)
Well, by "real plow" I guess I meant a truck that is designed ground up to be a plow. I haven't seen any of them around here (lower peninsula of Michigan) and few farther north. Most road commissions have multipurpose trucks that they mount snow blades on as required.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
(Post 10131898)
Is Yehuda Moon in our midst?
-Kurt
Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
(Post 10133316)
It matters what a real plow is because a guy in a pickup with a blade on the front really has no excuse; he's basically driving a passenger vehicle, and if he drops the blade next to you, he's probably intentionally trying to intimidate you.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
(Post 10133704)
Well, by "real plow" I guess I meant a truck that is designed ground up to be a plow. I haven't seen any of them around here (lower peninsula of Michigan) and few farther north. Most road commissions have multipurpose trucks that they mount snow blades on as required.
For the purpose of this exercise though, mutipurpose trucks with large snow blades on them count as "real plows". |
We actually use a lot of garbage trucks for plowing, they're big and heavy. Most Govt entitiies want their trucks to be useful year round. Our "sensor" salters are dumps that have a front blade and belly blade and the salters slide in to the bed. The only dedicated stuff that stays on all year is the wing plows and that's just the side lift for the wing. My brother who lives @ 9000 ft on the divide in CO bought a surplus snowblower from the corp of Eng. It's 7 ft high on a1959 FWD flatbed and is powered by a 8cly diesel on the flatbed.
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Originally Posted by dedhed
(Post 10141824)
We actually use a lot of garbage trucks for plowing, they're big and heavy. Most Govt entitiies want their trucks to be useful year round. Our "sensor" salters are dumps that have a front blade and belly blade and the salters slide in to the bed. The only dedicated stuff that stays on all year is the wing plows and that's just the side lift for the wing. My brother who lives @ 9000 ft on the divide in CO bought a surplus snowblower from the corp of Eng. It's 7 ft high on a1959 FWD flatbed and is powered by a 8cly diesel on the flatbed.
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Originally Posted by Wogsterca
(Post 10146239)
You should see some of the snow clearing equipment they use for railroads, back in '81 I was on a train going to school in another city, was a 3 car Budd RDC (take a bus 1960's style bus, stretch in out to 80' and stick railway trucks under it), the snow drifts in places were about 4' deep. The train got stuck, they sent a plow after us, the plow itself was about 8' high, 25' long, had a blade that looked like it would cut cement truck cleanly in half. Had 2 5000HP locomotives pushing it. Once they got us plowed out, they hooked up, and hauled those RDCs out of there at top speed, still managed to take a 2 hour trip and turn it into a 6½ hour trip though.....
;) -Kurt |
Well, regardless, if you see a phalanx of "real" plows coming upon you from behind--be prepared to jump over the snow bank on the side of the road, drag your bike with you, and hope you don't lose your new bike computer like i did last winter. :(
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Too bad you did not get a plate number. Bet the city would not be real happy with a jerk tearing up the roads just to harass a cyclist.
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Originally Posted by CB HI
(Post 10149586)
Too bad you did not get a plate number. Bet the city would not be real happy with a jerk tearing up the roads just to harass a cyclist.
Originally Posted by Roody
(Post 10149298)
Well, regardless, if you see a phalanx of "real" plows coming upon you from behind--be prepared to jump over the snow bank on the side of the road, drag your bike with you, and hope you don't lose your new bike computer like i did last winter. :(
But really, that's a bummer man. |
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