DC's Tony Kornheiser! Bashing cyclists and new lane
03-11-10, 02:56 PM
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DC's Tony Kornheiser! Bashing cyclists and new lane
On cycling:
Kevin: Reading: "The center of Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House to the Capitol soon may be reserved for just two things: the president's inauguration and people riding bicycles. A pair of bike lanes are destined to grace the middle of one of the country's most fabled boulevards, an avenue that ranks as a destination with Broadway, Fifth Avenue, Hollywood Boulevard and Bourbon Street. The two lanes will be part of an expanding network of dedicated bicycle lanes in the District, soon to include L, I and Ninth streets NW and more of 15th Street NW. "
Tony Kornheiser: When I read about this early this morning, and I just assumed this would be one of those dedicated bike lanes...
Kevin: To the right
Other Dude: Like you get at the beach, just a little strip
TK: ...on the right hand side, where bicycles are free to go - maybe two by two, but mostly one by one.
Kevin: And they never use them
TK: And I'm fine with those. Then I heard on Channel 4 that these things were going to remove an entire lane of automobiles, which last time I looked the roads were made for automobiles, and that they were going to somehow be in the middle and not on the sides and we were somehow going to be dominated, as if this was Beijing, by hundreds of thousands of bicyclists. And I don't really care what they do on Pennsylvania Avenue, if they can't ride a car on that anyway, but how are they going to get the bikes down there? They're going to have to go through other streets. I think this is a terrible, terrible idea. I don't mind those one lanes, but you get in Rock Creek Park and 3 or 4 of these people start riding abreast, and I swear to you it's all you can do to not RUN THEM DOWN, like Wile Coyote's, run them over. Just stay on the right. Stay on the right. I'm happy to share the road with you, but by share the road what I mean is you have room on the right and I have room on the road. Get the hell out of my way. Am I wrong on this?
Woman: Here's the problem I have. I'll give you bike lanes if we open up Pennsylvania Avenue on one side of the White House and the other street behind...You add this and it's going to make it even worse worse.
OD: These chesty cyclists, I mean they take that right lane and they're already moving over to the middle.
TK: And they all wear...my God...with the little water bottle in the back and their stupid hats and their shiny shorts, they are the same disgusting poseurs that come out in the middle of a snow storm with cross country skiing on your block. Run them down. I mean, let them use the right I'm OK with that.
OD: Or they can ride on the top of the curb
TK: I don't take my car and ride on the sidewalk becaue I understand that's not for my car. Why do these people think that these roads were built for bicycles?
Kevin: Because they're crunchy granola, they just want us to live in a cleaner world.
TK: I know someone's going to hate me for this, am I wrong?
Woman: I'm all for people truly sharing the road. I'm all for people getting their exercise.
Kevin: They don't share it now.
TK: They don't share the road. They dominate the road. They dare you to run them down.
Kevin: Yes they do.
TK: And then when you do, they get angry. What is that about?
Kevin: If you honk, they slow down...in front of you
TK: And so you tap them. I'm not saying you kill them. I'm saying you tap them. Tap them once.
Kevin: Just a spill, not a fatal spill, but a little spill.
TK: If you're not rubbing, you're not racing right? So you pop them a little bit and see what happens.
Kevin: They're so annoying. This is a Fenty move. He's a big cyclist.
Woman: With his security detail of course.
TK: But again, why can't they just.. what's wrong with the little lane on the right. I don't drive in the little lane on the right.
Woman: Here's the argument they would make - because the little lane on the right is often covered up by cars that are parked at the wrong time of day and buses that have pulled into the path...
OD: Tell them to take Metro
TK: Really? Then they can veer out a little bit. My objection to them is when the ride in the middle of the road. They give you the finger. They do all the time. They think they own it. Because they think that you think that you own it. I don't think I own it. I own it. I have a car. I have a large powerful car compared to your stupid little bicycle.
OD: It seems a little discriminatory to me. What about unicyclists? Why can't they have a lane
TK. They can have the same lane on the right. Anything with less than four wheels, or three wheels...
Kevin: ...can use the right lane, if there is one. If there isn't one, take the Metro.
(Group makes fun of segways)
TK: so the whole city is going to be just for bicycles? I tell you, it's Beijing. It's going to be buses and bicycles. That's all there's going to be.
Kevin: There are plenty of paths. The Capitol Crescent Trail gets you to Georgetown and then you can take the Metro from there. Get on a bus.
TK: Yes. What is there problem?
Kevin: Reading: "The center of Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House to the Capitol soon may be reserved for just two things: the president's inauguration and people riding bicycles. A pair of bike lanes are destined to grace the middle of one of the country's most fabled boulevards, an avenue that ranks as a destination with Broadway, Fifth Avenue, Hollywood Boulevard and Bourbon Street. The two lanes will be part of an expanding network of dedicated bicycle lanes in the District, soon to include L, I and Ninth streets NW and more of 15th Street NW. "
Tony Kornheiser: When I read about this early this morning, and I just assumed this would be one of those dedicated bike lanes...
Kevin: To the right
Other Dude: Like you get at the beach, just a little strip
TK: ...on the right hand side, where bicycles are free to go - maybe two by two, but mostly one by one.
Kevin: And they never use them
TK: And I'm fine with those. Then I heard on Channel 4 that these things were going to remove an entire lane of automobiles, which last time I looked the roads were made for automobiles, and that they were going to somehow be in the middle and not on the sides and we were somehow going to be dominated, as if this was Beijing, by hundreds of thousands of bicyclists. And I don't really care what they do on Pennsylvania Avenue, if they can't ride a car on that anyway, but how are they going to get the bikes down there? They're going to have to go through other streets. I think this is a terrible, terrible idea. I don't mind those one lanes, but you get in Rock Creek Park and 3 or 4 of these people start riding abreast, and I swear to you it's all you can do to not RUN THEM DOWN, like Wile Coyote's, run them over. Just stay on the right. Stay on the right. I'm happy to share the road with you, but by share the road what I mean is you have room on the right and I have room on the road. Get the hell out of my way. Am I wrong on this?
Woman: Here's the problem I have. I'll give you bike lanes if we open up Pennsylvania Avenue on one side of the White House and the other street behind...You add this and it's going to make it even worse worse.
OD: These chesty cyclists, I mean they take that right lane and they're already moving over to the middle.
TK: And they all wear...my God...with the little water bottle in the back and their stupid hats and their shiny shorts, they are the same disgusting poseurs that come out in the middle of a snow storm with cross country skiing on your block. Run them down. I mean, let them use the right I'm OK with that.
OD: Or they can ride on the top of the curb
TK: I don't take my car and ride on the sidewalk becaue I understand that's not for my car. Why do these people think that these roads were built for bicycles?
Kevin: Because they're crunchy granola, they just want us to live in a cleaner world.
TK: I know someone's going to hate me for this, am I wrong?
Woman: I'm all for people truly sharing the road. I'm all for people getting their exercise.
Kevin: They don't share it now.
TK: They don't share the road. They dominate the road. They dare you to run them down.
Kevin: Yes they do.
TK: And then when you do, they get angry. What is that about?
Kevin: If you honk, they slow down...in front of you
TK: And so you tap them. I'm not saying you kill them. I'm saying you tap them. Tap them once.
Kevin: Just a spill, not a fatal spill, but a little spill.
TK: If you're not rubbing, you're not racing right? So you pop them a little bit and see what happens.
Kevin: They're so annoying. This is a Fenty move. He's a big cyclist.
Woman: With his security detail of course.
TK: But again, why can't they just.. what's wrong with the little lane on the right. I don't drive in the little lane on the right.
Woman: Here's the argument they would make - because the little lane on the right is often covered up by cars that are parked at the wrong time of day and buses that have pulled into the path...
OD: Tell them to take Metro
TK: Really? Then they can veer out a little bit. My objection to them is when the ride in the middle of the road. They give you the finger. They do all the time. They think they own it. Because they think that you think that you own it. I don't think I own it. I own it. I have a car. I have a large powerful car compared to your stupid little bicycle.
OD: It seems a little discriminatory to me. What about unicyclists? Why can't they have a lane
TK. They can have the same lane on the right. Anything with less than four wheels, or three wheels...
Kevin: ...can use the right lane, if there is one. If there isn't one, take the Metro.
(Group makes fun of segways)
TK: so the whole city is going to be just for bicycles? I tell you, it's Beijing. It's going to be buses and bicycles. That's all there's going to be.
Kevin: There are plenty of paths. The Capitol Crescent Trail gets you to Georgetown and then you can take the Metro from there. Get on a bus.
TK: Yes. What is there problem?
03-11-10, 03:07 PM
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He is extremely popular in the metro area as a sports writer and radio host. He was probably *mostly kidding, but he is extremely misinformed and pretty arrogant in his comments.
03-11-10, 03:24 PM
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"I don't think I own it. I own it." 
What a ****ing wanker.
What a ****ing wanker.
03-11-10, 03:26 PM
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which last time I looked the roads were made for automobiles
Freakin idiot!
03-11-10, 08:52 PM
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I listen to his show everyday and I was listening while at work today, but not after today. In fact I sent off a letter to his station (WTEM in DC) expressing my disgust over this kind of crap. Mr Kornheiser just came off of a 2 week suspension for upprofessional comments about a colleague (Hannah Storm I believe) and is proving himself to be no more than an opinionated loudmouth. He is 1/2 of the PTI TV show on ESPN so you may be familiar with that. His radio shows are available via podcast on the station's website and the show was from today (3/11). You can find it under ESPN Radio 980, Home Of The Redskins. I am not usually so sensitive to this but to openly advocate running over cyclists over the public airwaves is not what I call responsible journalism, as well as the height of arrogance. Incidentally Mr. Kornheiser would be the last person to call himself a responsible journalist.
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03-11-10, 10:23 PM
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With apologies to Brian J., and partner, I'm glad you stopped listening to this bellowing bladder of swamp gas, but how could anyone think some deliberately annoying P.O.S. like Kornholer could be entertaining?
Where's the DC Sniper when you really need him? (Yeah... I know, that's over the top, too, but.......)
Where's the DC Sniper when you really need him? (Yeah... I know, that's over the top, too, but.......)
03-11-10, 10:46 PM
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So this guy gets suspended from ESPN for saying a female sportscaster dressed like a skank, and the next week advocates killing cyclists. I hope they fire him, but thats wishful thinking.
Contact ESPN and tell them to how you feel about this scumbag
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Contact ESPN and tell them to how you feel about this scumbag
https://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/contact
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03-11-10, 10:49 PM
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Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.
My post on this in the Road forum:
Not really, no. That part doesn't really go anywhere, just between the White House and the Capitol. Constitution and Independence are basically arterials in and out of that part of downtown and can get stupidly busy. I've never seen bumper-to-bumper traffic on Penn Ave. I can't even think of a great reason to drive on it other than to drive a tour bus, get to a precious few parking garages or to just go across.
https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...33.68,,0,-1.69
It would be nice to close it to pedestrian/bike traffic. BUT, it's no Times Square. There are a couple memorials, a small handful of restaurants, and one or two museums. As it is now, there just isn't anything that makes a walking visit worthwhile.
Now -- is it that desolate because of all the space being used for vehicle traffic, or is it simply almost useless?
What's not even known by every DC resident is that it already gets closed now and then for various gatherings. Traffic in that area doesn't get any worse when those festivals are held.
https://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...33.68,,0,-1.69
It would be nice to close it to pedestrian/bike traffic. BUT, it's no Times Square. There are a couple memorials, a small handful of restaurants, and one or two museums. As it is now, there just isn't anything that makes a walking visit worthwhile.
Now -- is it that desolate because of all the space being used for vehicle traffic, or is it simply almost useless?
What's not even known by every DC resident is that it already gets closed now and then for various gatherings. Traffic in that area doesn't get any worse when those festivals are held.
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Who were each of the talkers? Did any of them actually believe the BS that they were spouting off about?
Someone made a comment about vehicles with less then 4 or 3 wheels, can ya imagine the looks on their faces if a bunch of people showed up on adult trikes?
Someone made a comment about vehicles with less then 4 or 3 wheels, can ya imagine the looks on their faces if a bunch of people showed up on adult trikes?
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Gene,
Yeah, I liked that too, I guess someone had better tell the LAB that all their hard work has been forgotten. How much do you want to bet that the average "temporary resident" i.e. politician wouldn't last more then a handful of minutes on a bike?
Yeah, I liked that too, I guess someone had better tell the LAB that all their hard work has been forgotten. How much do you want to bet that the average "temporary resident" i.e. politician wouldn't last more then a handful of minutes on a bike?
03-12-10, 11:51 AM
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[Cyclists] dominate the road.
In the US?
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