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Old 11-02-10, 10:45 AM
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Touring across the States, in the Appalachians in particular, gassing the cyclist has somehow developed into a sport for diesel pick-up trucks. They come up on you while you're on a steep grade doing about 5 mph, slow to get beside you and then gas it to blow diesel exhaust all over you. Happened three or four times. I was blown off the road intentionally by a big-rig driver—wide open road and no traffic in site. By far the worst drivers I encountered were in RV's. They generally have no clue as to where the corners of their vehicle are or how far their mirrors hang out—many close calls with those bone-heads. Large RV drivers should be required to have Class-A licenses. They're as big as semi's—they should have to have the ability (and the license) to drive it like one.
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Old 11-02-10, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by foamy View Post
Touring across the States, in the Appalachians in particular, gassing the cyclist has somehow developed into a sport for diesel pick-up trucks. They come up on you while you're on a steep grade doing about 5 mph, slow to get beside you and then gas it to blow diesel exhaust all over you. Happened three or four times. I was blown off the road intentionally by a big-rig driver—wide open road and no traffic in site. By far the worst drivers I encountered were in RV's. They generally have no clue as to where the corners of their vehicle are or how far their mirrors hang out—many close calls with those bone-heads. Large RV drivers should be required to have Class-A licenses. They're as big as semi's—they should have to have the ability (and the license) to drive it like one.
Well you're not alone in receiving that treatment, there is a whole thread in the road forum about deliberate diesel gassing. Given that diesel particulates are the largest source of airborne cancer risk i find such behaviour reprehensible.
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Old 11-02-10, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by electrik View Post
Well you're not alone in receiving that treatment, there is a whole thread in the road forum about deliberate diesel gassing. Given that diesel particulates are the largest source of airborne cancer risk i find such behaviour reprehensible.
I wasn't keen on it myself. They all thought it was a hoot. I noticed that there were always at least two folks in the truck, I was never gassed by a solo driver.
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Old 11-02-10, 02:00 PM
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Was riding with a relative visiting from Norway this summer. He is an accomplished mountain biking rider so I wanted to take him on a challenging ride. We set out on one of my favorite routes through some beautiful, hilly, country side, about 55 miles. On the ride we got gassed by a pickup and buzzed by another pickup. Needless to say he was not impressed by my countryman's behavior.
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Old 11-03-10, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike734 View Post
Was riding with a relative visiting from Norway this summer. He is an accomplished mountain biking rider so I wanted to take him on a challenging ride. We set out on one of my favorite routes through some beautiful, hilly, country side, about 55 miles. On the ride we got gassed by a pickup and buzzed by another pickup. Needless to say he was not impressed by my countryman's behavior.

Should have taken him mtn biking...
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Old 11-03-10, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike734 View Post
No science here but it seems to me that pickups make up the majority of cars that crowd me, send me obscene gestures, or yell at me. What's up with that?

My theory is that most people that drive pickups are hard working, under paid types who are peeved that they are working while you are having fun riding a bike. Thoughts?
That's actually a fairly charitable view. In my area, the hardworking guys in the beat-up pickups are among the more poite drivers. It's the self-absorbed types who drive a shiny, spotless pcikup that doesn't appear to have ever been used for more than shuttling lawn furniture home from the big-box store who are going to run you into the ditch.
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Old 11-04-10, 10:53 PM
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Old 11-04-10, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kotts View Post
It's the self-absorbed types who drive a shiny, spotless pcikup that doesn't appear to have ever been used for more than shuttling lawn furniture home from the big-box store who are going to run you into the ditch.
Those are called bro-dozers. They usually have Monster Energy Drink or Metal Mulisha stickers, or in Ohio probably ICP stickers.
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Old 11-05-10, 09:09 AM
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Keep on truckin folks.....

AutoNation Chairman and CEO Mike Jackson (featured on a CD post in June):

I've always said, when you want to know when this economy is going to turn, just watch the pickup sales. All those sales are small businesses and entrepreneurs, and when they see the prospect for better business, they're going to go out and finally buy a new pickup truck. So this is a key indicator of what's going on in the U.S. economy. This is small business America saying that "the worst is over, I see opportunities in the future, I feel confident enough to go out and buy a new truck. "

Pickup trucks are bought by small business entrepreneurs who have their finger on the pulse of the U.S. economy. It's an expression of confidence in future of our economy. They don't buy until they see the prospects for business are brighter.


There is no doubt an aura to trucks as 'rugged individualism,' which cars have lost with their electronics, cushy interiors, CD players and GPS metrosexual voices.


Now folks what we need to do is start buying bicycles as part of the recovery too! Will it be 27 speeds or will it be fixies?

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Old 11-05-10, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by electrik View Post
Well you're not alone in receiving that treatment, there is a whole thread in the road forum about deliberate diesel gassing. Given that diesel particulates are the largest source of airborne cancer risk i find such behaviour reprehensible.
As do I. There was one time I was cycling high in the Andes during windy, wet snow late in the day. A diesel tractor trailer pulled up alongside, going only a bit faster than I, and for about 2 minutes I was treated to exquisitely warm air. I was in heaven; even knowing I was breathing 5 million times my recommended daily allowance of particulates. If I get lung cancer later in life, I am sure this will be the reason.

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Old 11-05-10, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Roughstuff View Post
Keep on truckin folks.....

There is no doubt an aura to trucks as 'rugged individualism,' which cars have lost with their electronics, cushy interiors, CD players and GPS metrosexual voices.


Now folks what we need to do is start buying bicycles as part of the recovery too! Will it be 27 speeds or will it be fixies?

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Bicycles are way more rugged... maybe that is why pick-up drivers harass them - intense jealousy or insecurity.
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Old 11-05-10, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by electrik View Post
Bicycles are way more rugged... maybe that is why pick-up drivers harass them - intense jealousy or insecurity.

Exactly, especially off roaders toolin thru the mud and gunk, and riding on the roadway unaffected by grit, sand, potholes and mud.

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Originally Posted by Roughstuff View Post
just watch the pickup sales. All those sales are small businesses and entrepreneurs
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Pickup trucks are bought by small business entrepreneurs who have their finger on the pulse of the U.S. economy.
Um, what?

Only small businesses and entrepreneurs buy pickup trucks? Or have I misunderstood something massively here? I certainly won't argue that some of them buy trucks -- but lots of other people do too!
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Old 11-05-10, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dougmc View Post
Um, what?

Only small businesses and entrepreneurs buy pickup trucks? Or have I misunderstood something massively here? I certainly won't argue that some of them buy trucks -- but lots of other people do too!
Its Mike Jackson's argument, not mine. There is surely a consumer segment to the pickup truck market, but alot of it is entrepreneurs and self employed folks, be they construction crews or farmers.

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Um, what?

Only small businesses and entrepreneurs buy pickup trucks? Or have I misunderstood something massively here? I certainly won't argue that some of them buy trucks -- but lots of other people do too!
In a logical world, these vehicles would be purchased for utilitarian reasons, by people needing to haul cargo. But 95%+ of the pickups I see on the road are carrying one person and no cargo, many of them clean enough to eat off of. Which might lead an armchair psychologist to conclude that they are purchased in a feeble attempt to bolster self-esteem and to achieve some neurotic sense of power and dominance over other drivers. As mentioned previously, a Viagra prescription would be more cost-effective. These things are going to turn into some mighty ugly lawn ornaments when gas approaches the $10/gallon mark.
 
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Originally Posted by High Roller View Post
In a logical world, these vehicles would be purchased for utilitarian reasons, by people needing to haul cargo. But 95%+ of the pickups I see on the road are carrying one person and no cargo, many of them clean enough to eat off of. Which might lead an armchair psychologist to conclude that they are purchased in a feeble attempt to bolster self-esteem and to achieve some neurotic sense of power and dominance over other drivers. As mentioned previously, a Viagra prescription would be more cost-effective. These things are going to turn into some mighty ugly lawn ornaments when gas approaches the $10/gallon mark.
Perhaps. I own a small farm and tow my horse trailer, so I need a pick up truck. I also commute to work in it. So most of the time I am not hauling hay or horses, but just driving it by myself. Most people don't have enough money to own a $35, 000 truck and multiple other vehicles to suite all of the different types of driving.
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