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Black Hawk Judge Affirms Bike Ban

Old 12-04-10, 12:44 AM
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Critical bathroom breaks in the casinos.
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Old 12-04-10, 01:04 AM
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What's really sad is that those super dangerous roads are all 15 mph speed limit, and there has NEVER been a recorded bike/car accident on any of them.
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Old 12-05-10, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerlenbach
The ordinance disallowed cycling on what I think are the main roads through town. The opinion states that the ordinance does not impede the constitutional right to travel because cyclists can walk their bikes through town. A bizarre and strained opinion. I trust it will be appealed.
Is there a constitutional right to travel though? (Not saying there isn't, just posing the question.)
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Originally Posted by boneshake
Is there a constitutional right to travel though? (Not saying there isn't, just posing the question.)
From U.S. Constitution Online:

"As the Supreme Court notes in Saenz v Roe, 98-97 (1999), the Constitution does not contain the word "travel" in any context, let alone an explicit right to travel (except for members of Congress, who are guaranteed the right to travel to and from Congress). The presumed right to travel, however, is firmly established in U.S. law and precedent. In U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966), the Court noted, "It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized." In fact, in Shapiro v Thompson, 394 U.S. 618 (1969), Justice Stewart noted in a concurring opinion that "it is a right broadly assertable against private interference as well as governmental action. Like the right of association, ... it is a virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all." It is interesting to note that the Articles of Confederation had an explicit right to travel; it is now thought that the right is so fundamental that the Framers may have thought it unnecessary to include it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights."

The ninth amendment, "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people," makes it clear that not all rights are included in the constitution. The right to travel has been determined to be one of them.
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Old 12-05-10, 11:03 PM
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Old 12-06-10, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by B. Carfree
I would love to see the comparable anti-car ordinance that requires motorists to walk their cars. My city is trying to force cyclists to walk their bikes to the (few) bike racks found downtown while still allowing the motorists to drive their cars across the same sidewalks to access car-only parking structures. I'll walk my bike when they walk their cars.
We've got two overzealous bike cops in Minneapolis who have issued more than a few tickets to cyclists for doing just this. When I'm in better financial shape, I'm going to troll them by riding ACROSS the sidewalk to the bike rack, get my ticket, and fight it using this argument. Because it is expressly illegal to drive a car on the sidewalk in Minneapolis, anywhere, at any time.
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Old 12-06-10, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SBRDude
They have signs in their neighborhood saying something to the effect that cyclists are welcome, but must obey the traffic laws.
I have never been to any city/community in the USofA where auto drivers come to complete stops at stop signs (unless they have to due to crossing traffic) or pay proper attention to the road ahead 100% of the time. As soon as I find that place, I will move there and take traffic laws seriously. Don't even get me started on pedestrians.

Replace the signs with "AUTOS, PEDESTRIANS, AND BICYCLES MUST OBEY TRAFFIC LAWS". Then stand back and watch nothing happen.

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