Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Advocacy & Safety
Reload this Page >

Cycling Education Website

Notices
Advocacy & Safety Cyclists should expect and demand safe accommodation on every public road, just as do all other users. Discuss your bicycle advocacy and safety concerns here.

Cycling Education Website

Old 01-02-11, 08:47 PM
  #1  
totoroben
Ben
Thread Starter
 
totoroben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cleveland. Shaker Heights
Posts: 150

Bikes: Rans V-Rex, Schwinn Traveler, Panasonic Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cycling Education Website

I am currently working on material for a bicycling education website that follows a similar to the LAB Traffic 101 course. I wanted the website to be modeled as a distance learning class in which the student views a presentation. After the presentation, the student will take a fill in the blank/mult choice test online, and upon passing this, will be able to attend a training ride in their area. The training rides would be found by typing in a city/zip and the student would be able to register for a loc and time. Ideally all training ride leaders would be league certified, but it would make it much easier for everyone if the ride leaders could just take an online course about how to teach the cycling and sign a form saying they have ridden 2000 miles per year and are competent in street cycling. I wanted the website to be completely free to use and the courses free for the students and instructers. There will be a grading system for instructors to grade their students, and the students will be able to rate their instructors. There will also be a points system for instructors for how many students they have had in their training rides (a good example of this would be ebay seller ratings). Anyone have any thoughts on this? I am currently working on the material for the website, but will eventually need competent webmaster to put it all together. Let me know what you all think!
totoroben is offline  
Old 01-02-11, 10:13 PM
  #2  
B. Carfree
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Eugene, Oregon
Posts: 7,048
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 509 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
If your instructors are only riding 2000 miles per year, you may have nubes teaching newbies. I am not sure how you are going to determine who is a qualified instructor, but a low mileage requirement is pretty useless. Riding safely on the road requires a cyclist to pick up on many things that are happening around them and anticipate many things that may happen. Unfortunately, both the cues and the appropriate responses are different for cyclists of various riding strengths.

I think your project does have some potential, but don't try to make people think it is more than it is.
B. Carfree is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 01:00 AM
  #3  
totoroben
Ben
Thread Starter
 
totoroben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cleveland. Shaker Heights
Posts: 150

Bikes: Rans V-Rex, Schwinn Traveler, Panasonic Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
@ B. carfree Thanks for your thoughts. The mileage requirement was just an example. How many miles would you propose people cycle a year to be competent in cycling? The cycling instructors would go through the same online presentation as the students, as well as view some materials about teaching classes. My thought is this: if I can ride safely and am comfortable with helping others learn this same skill what's wrong with that? Why can't I provide other people with this same opportunity? There will be a rating system in place, and instructors who receive low ratings, or don't follow the rules would be booted off automatically.
totoroben is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 07:54 AM
  #4  
kjmillig
Senior Member
 
kjmillig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NE Texas
Posts: 1,122
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The City of Houston in conjuction with LAB already has one. Check it out.
https://www.bikeed.org/courseIntro.aspx
IMHO the ride instructors should be LAB Certified Instructors, or have some other certification such as police bicycle intructors, etc.

Last edited by kjmillig; 01-03-11 at 08:00 AM.
kjmillig is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 08:02 AM
  #5  
mikeybikes
Senior Member
 
mikeybikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Edgewater, CO
Posts: 3,214

Bikes: Tons

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I think mileage requirements are silly. You need to make sure your instructors are actually certified.
mikeybikes is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 08:07 AM
  #6  
Pscyclepath
LCI #1853
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Scott. Arkansas
Posts: 663

Bikes: Trek Madone 5.2, Fisher Caliber 29er, Orbea Onix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It's not so much the distance ridden, as it is knowing how to deal with traffic, bike handling skills, etc., and demonstrate your ability to effectively impart that information to others. The League has a pretty rigorous program for the people it certifies as LCIs, and a specific curriculum to be taught. There's not a mileage requirement to become an LCI, but you have to be a League member, have passed the Traffic Skills 101 course with an "A" score, pass a 100-question written exam (also with an "A"), complete a 3-day training seminar under the supervision of an LCI Coach and several other experienced LCIs, then team-teach and/or be mentored by an experienced LCI before you're turned loose to practice on your own.

Much of this stuff you can't do on-line, because of the program's emphasis on practical, butts-on-bikes teaching. The League already has an on-line site set up to offer the classroom phase of Traffic Skills 101, to be followed up by a face-to-face on-bike session with an LCI. I've had a couple of students do this, but in nearly every case they decided to take the full 101 class even after taking the on-line exam.
Pscyclepath is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 09:14 AM
  #7  
xtrajack
xtrajack
 
xtrajack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Maine
Posts: 2,058

Bikes: Kona fire mountain/xtracycle,Univega landrover fs,Nishiki custom sport Ross professional super gran tour Schwinn Mesa (future Xtracycle donor bike)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Pscyclepath View Post
It's not so much the distance ridden, as it is knowing how to deal with traffic, bike handling skills, etc., and demonstrate your ability to effectively impart that information to others. The League has a pretty rigorous program for the people it certifies as LCIs, and a specific curriculum to be taught. There's not a mileage requirement to become an LCI, but you have to be a League member, have passed the Traffic Skills 101 course with an "A" score, pass a 100-question written exam (also with an "A"), complete a 3-day training seminar under the supervision of an LCI Coach and several other experienced LCIs, then team-teach and/or be mentored by an experienced LCI before you're turned loose to practice on your own.

Much of this stuff you can't do on-line, because of the program's emphasis on practical, butts-on-bikes teaching. The League already has an on-line site set up to offer the classroom phase of Traffic Skills 101, to be followed up by a face-to-face on-bike session with an LCI. I've had a couple of students do this, but in nearly every case they decided to take the full 101 class even after taking the on-line exam.
I agree wholeheartedly, I took the 101 class a couple of years ago. I did really well with the written portion of the program. If memory serves, I missed 3 questions on the written test and I scored 100% on the road portion.
Having said that, I don't really feel that an online program would really be all that beneficial to a newbie, especially someone who would have issues riding in/with traffic. I remember back when I started riding as an adult (1979) I was really nervous riding in traffic. The only way to get over that is to get out there and do it.

I ride over 2500 miles a year, (year round commuter) I consider myself to be a competent, capable cyclist. However, I'm not sure that I could impart that knowledge to some one else in person, much less online.
xtrajack is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 03:44 PM
  #8  
totoroben
Ben
Thread Starter
 
totoroben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cleveland. Shaker Heights
Posts: 150

Bikes: Rans V-Rex, Schwinn Traveler, Panasonic Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Okay, you guys have convinced me. Now all I need is to get my LCI.
totoroben is offline  
Old 01-03-11, 05:06 PM
  #9  
Recycle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NE IL
Posts: 675

Bikes: ICE Adventure 26FS, Surly Long Haul Trucker, Giant Cypress DX

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Search https://www.bikeleague.org/programs/e...e_schedule.php for Traffic Skills 101 courses and LCI seminars in your area.
Recycle is offline  
Old 01-04-11, 11:12 AM
  #10  
CritEastwood
aka Jerome
 
CritEastwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Colorado Again
Posts: 1,080

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Certification and "mileage requirements" are both silly. You either know how to deal with traffic, or you don't.

Last edited by CritEastwood; 01-06-11 at 05:09 AM.
CritEastwood is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Bertcycling
General Cycling Discussion
4
09-05-16 12:35 PM
gradedgraydad
Fifty Plus (50+)
32
02-24-14 09:34 AM
oilman_15106
Fifty Plus (50+)
13
12-08-10 04:56 PM
noglider
Advocacy & Safety
29
07-25-10 05:13 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.