Wearing a "Police" shirt while riding, safer or not?
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Originally Posted by late
Hi,
someone mentioned wanting a really visible vest. It really can't get more visible than these guys. I have the first one. It's cheap and it works. I might get a cycling vest with Illuminite one of these days.
https://walking.about.com/gi/dynamic/...ww.glowdog.com
https://revelsports.com/shopdisplaypr...?catalogid=231
https://www.coloradocyclist.com/commo...409&TextMode=0
https://www.illuminite.com/Catalog/8130v_c.html
someone mentioned wanting a really visible vest. It really can't get more visible than these guys. I have the first one. It's cheap and it works. I might get a cycling vest with Illuminite one of these days.
https://walking.about.com/gi/dynamic/...ww.glowdog.com
https://revelsports.com/shopdisplaypr...?catalogid=231
https://www.coloradocyclist.com/commo...409&TextMode=0
https://www.illuminite.com/Catalog/8130v_c.html
So the real question is why neither coloradocyclist or illuminite make these in that hivis green color?
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Originally Posted by hlweyl
If you re-read my first post, I state that this is LEGAL as confirmed by my local police department. You can wear a shirt that says Police, a hat that says FBI, or CIA underwear. This isn't impersonating an officer.
edit: I see you are from Canada, so maybe the law differs there.
edit: I see you are from Canada, so maybe the law differs there.
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I like this
https://www.irocycle.com/imagelib/sit...target=tlx_new
Also what would Stewart, Andy and Sting do about it
Sorry for the horrible joke :^)
https://www.irocycle.com/imagelib/sit...target=tlx_new
Also what would Stewart, Andy and Sting do about it
Sorry for the horrible joke :^)
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Originally Posted by hlweyl
The point of the post is that I think that the type of motorist inclined to swerve, throw, etc will be less likely to if they think there is a chance that the biker is a cop. That is my opinion, I could be wrong.
However the way you come across, calling me stupid and the uhhh duh I take as an attack. I don't know whether or not you meant it that way, but you should consider your language. Or you might be one of these tough guys only behind your keyboard.
However the way you come across, calling me stupid and the uhhh duh I take as an attack. I don't know whether or not you meant it that way, but you should consider your language. Or you might be one of these tough guys only behind your keyboard.
Take it how you want, I did not however call you stupid, I pointed out that I believe the IDEA is stupid and I still stand behind that statement. As for my language, I said nothing foul or derogatory so you need to lighten up a bit or toughen up I would say. The tough guy comment, well not really but I don't back down from what I think and I always back what I say, take that how you want too. I don't post very often here because most of the time I have nothing relavant to say, but in this case I had a definate opinion and wanted to state it. I am not like some on here ( I am NOT talking about you ) that post to every thread just to see their name on the board alot. I use this board as a tool for info and guidance of cycle related topics.
I really didn't want to discuss this anymore, but I thought I should clarify my point and where I was coming from. I think the idea is not a good one, and I am basically done with this now. If I ticked you off that was not the point or my intention.
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Just as a sidenote - wearing ANYTHING that suggests one is any kind of law enforcement officer is illegal in the UK (if you aren't) and would probably get you stopped very quickly...
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The legality of this is moot- Ok in some jurisdictions, not OK in others. The realistic issue to consider it is not prudent to advertise you're a cop (even for a cop) when you're "off duty" (so to speak). Some folks like cops, some folks dislike them. Then there's the occasional monster lurking who loathes law enforcement and would love the opportunity to off or hurt you...just 'cause of your vest.
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The first time that someone mistakes you for a police officer and tries to get your help with an emergency, you will think differently about wearing their gear.
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Originally Posted by hlweyl
Alan, how about one like this:
Joetown, I think you give good advice here. Maybe veteran would be better. Thx, I sure don't want to grow a moustache!
Joetown, I think you give good advice here. Maybe veteran would be better. Thx, I sure don't want to grow a moustache!
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I don't think the vest would be intimidating if you don't look intimidating. If you were an NFL linebacker you would be intimidating, but if you wore a jersey with the logo of the Washington Redskins, or for that matter, a professional football team, no one would mistake you for a football player unless you looked like one. I thin the same applies to the police vest. From what my brother says, from actually being a police officer, diminutive cops get into a lot more fights. It is your personal presence that will deter a thief, if deterence is possible.
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I'm from canada, you can wear police stuff. My cousin has an embroidered police badge on his leather jacket and went through airport security. They questioned him about it, but that's it. Canada is just as free as the states, if not more.
edit: (just found this on maximonline)
Canada
Man Posing as Cop Gets Rocked
A Canuck was arrested for impersonating a police officer when the guy he pulled over for speeding turned out to be…a police officer. The impostor put red flashers on his white Dodge Neon and packed a gun, but when the pulled-over cop asked to see a badge, the man said he’d left it at home.
edit: (just found this on maximonline)
Canada
Man Posing as Cop Gets Rocked
A Canuck was arrested for impersonating a police officer when the guy he pulled over for speeding turned out to be…a police officer. The impostor put red flashers on his white Dodge Neon and packed a gun, but when the pulled-over cop asked to see a badge, the man said he’d left it at home.
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That's an entirely different situation, and the reason why it's recommended that one proceed to a populated area before pulling over if being stopped in a deserted location.
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from: https://www.kicon.com/law/cases_e/fakecops.html
There's a law, in every state of the Union, against impersonating a police officer.
Impersonating a police officer is usually punishable by prison time, a fine, or both. Moreover, people who impersonate police officers for some criminal purposes usually are charged with those underlying crimes as well.
There's a law, in every state of the Union, against impersonating a police officer.
Impersonating a police officer is usually punishable by prison time, a fine, or both. Moreover, people who impersonate police officers for some criminal purposes usually are charged with those underlying crimes as well.
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Originally Posted by kf5nd
Hmmm... if you have a vest that said "POLICIA" (spanish for police) it would definitely not be illegal in the US....
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Originally Posted by ITALIA
Not I, because the lettering would be replaced with something else.
COUNTY JAIL
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This sounds very much like something a character from "Catch-22" would have done, seeking some sort of comfort or divine protection by wearing a flak vest with German writing all over it to keep from being shot down.
But I hope you find something fitting anyway, your intentions are good.
Did you plan to use this for general riding, or just thru certain "dicey" areas?
But I hope you find something fitting anyway, your intentions are good.
Did you plan to use this for general riding, or just thru certain "dicey" areas?
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If you are covering the police lable then why not buy one that has the reflective tape withouit the police printed on it?
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I prefer a light-duty orange hunting vest over something that says POLICE. I think it would cause more trouble than it's worth, despite the fact that it is legal to wear it.
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Dude you can make your own led lights. check out https://www.backpacking.net/makegear.html
under the make your own gear page. It's cheap.
under the make your own gear page. It's cheap.
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Originally Posted by closetbiker
from: https://www.kicon.com/law/cases_e/fakecops.html
There's a law, in every state of the Union, against impersonating a police officer.
Impersonating a police officer is usually punishable by prison time, a fine, or both. Moreover, people who impersonate police officers for some criminal purposes usually are charged with those underlying crimes as well.
There's a law, in every state of the Union, against impersonating a police officer.
Impersonating a police officer is usually punishable by prison time, a fine, or both. Moreover, people who impersonate police officers for some criminal purposes usually are charged with those underlying crimes as well.
Thats just illogical... Those people are pulling people over and extorting money.....
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I checked with a friend who is a Myrtle Beach SC detective. He said wearing a police vest or police shirt here will guarantee you a trip to jail. No ticket... jail!