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Old 04-07-11, 01:35 PM
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NYPD Plainclothes Cop Nearly Doors Cyclist, Then Chases And Arrests Her

NYPD is just letting their imaginations run wild these days....



A 28-year-old theater technician on the Upper West Side, tells us she was biking home on Sunday around 6 p.m. when the driver's side door of a double parked black car popped open suddenly on Amsterdam between 76th and 77th Streets. "I had to brake so abruptly that a delivery biker behind me ran into me," says Thede. "I had a verbal exchange with the driver in which I told him to watch what he was doing." Then she rode on, but soon realized that the guy had gotten back into his car and was zooming up behind her. She still had no idea this man was an officer of the law, and the situation devolved from there:

He was driving after me and I was scared. He kept slowing down alongside me, so I cut all the way over to the left lane. But he angrily skidded to a stop in front of me, pulling his car perpendicular to traffic in the left lane. Then I got off my bike and tried to walk my bike onto the sidewalk because I wasn't going to run out into traffic. That's when he grabbed the back of my bike and started pulling it.

He didn't say he was a cop and I thought, 'This guy's crazy, he's attacking me!' I screamed for help and he started restraining my arms and holding me so I couldn't move. People on the street stopped and started asking him what he was doing. I did not hear him say he was a police officer or see any indication he was a police officer, so I was terrified. Then an NYPD squad car arrived and my initial thought was that they were going to save me from this guy; I figured the bystanders had called 911.

But instead of handcuffing her assailant, they slapped the cuffs on Thede, and that's when she realized that it was a policeman who had chased her. "I asked one of the police officers who was telling me to calm down if this guy and the passenger in his car were really cops," Thede recalls. "And she confirmed that they were from the Central Park precinct. I overheard a bystander say, 'I think she ran a red light.' But that's not true. He was hotheaded and couldn't take someone telling him what he did was wrong so he needed to come after me and teach me a lesson."


Thede was charged with reckless operation of a bicycle and disorderly conduct, and spent about an hour at the local precinct station house. During that time, the cop who arrested her, one "Sgt. Santiago" according to the summons, tried to justify the arrest. Thede says, "He told me that when I went around the door of his car to continue, that that was reckless because I was going into traffic. He maintained that I wasn't allowed to swerve around. But I came to a complete stop, exchanged words with him, then rode around his still-opened door. He said he arrested me because he was concerned for his safety."
Full Story: https://gothamist.com/2011/04/06/cop_...then_chase.php
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Seriously have to wonder just how far NYPD is going to carry their stupidity and arrogance.

Sgt. Santiago - that name sounds familiar.
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Handcuffs after a dooring... Oy vay!

I wonder how often they handcuff motorists for "reckless operation" and "disorderly conduct."
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Swerving to avoid an accident isn't reckless operation. Riding in the door zone, arguably, is.
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Do you have to fail an IQ test to become a policeman? Yes.
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Her real crime was that she called a dumb cop "dumb".
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So avoiding an obstruction is illegal in NYC? Traffic would never move otherwise.

Sgt. Santiago must be very proud of himself. Didn't like being told he was in the wrong so He manhandled a female cyclist and called backup. He totally got wrong a number of laws (opening a car door without looking, obstructing a bike lane, cyclist right to not use bike lane when it is unsafe). And possibly never identified himself and detained her.
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Originally Posted by randya
NYPD is just letting their imaginations run wild these days....





Full Story: https://gothamist.com/2011/04/06/cop_...then_chase.php
Let me guess, if she had actually hit the cop's car door. That she would have been charged with vandalism and destruction of city property.
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They were doing this thing a few months ago where a cop car was blocking a bike lane in Chelsea, and then they ticketed bikers who went around the cop car, because they weren't riding in the bike lane. It's pretty assinine.
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Originally Posted by exile
So avoiding an obstruction is illegal in NYC? Traffic would never move otherwise.

Sgt. Santiago must be very proud of himself. Didn't like being told he was in the wrong so He manhandled a female cyclist and called backup. He totally got wrong a number of laws (opening a car door without looking, obstructing a bike lane, cyclist right to not use bike lane when it is unsafe). And possibly never identified himself and detained her.
Not to mention the irresponsible use of testosterone.
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Originally Posted by CB HI
Seriously have to wonder just how far NYPD is going to carry their stupidity and arrogance.

Sgt. Santiago - that name sounds familiar.
I wonder if his morning coffee was spiked, to the point of insanity?
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As I said previously in another thread, I'm so glad that our local LEO's don't have a vendetta against cyclists since it's tough enough just concerning myself with local motorists.
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Originally Posted by Dauphine
They were doing this thing a few months ago where a cop car was blocking a bike lane in Chelsea, and then they ticketed bikers who went around the cop car, because they weren't riding in the bike lane. It's pretty assinine.
Can they do that legally? In California we are specifically permitted to leave a bike lane to circumnavigate a hazard or obstruction.
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Originally Posted by John E
Can they do that legally? In California we are specifically permitted to leave a bike lane to circumnavigate a hazard or obstruction.
No, they can't legally, but it happened, just like the Central Park 'speed trap' - the posted speed in the area was apparently 35mph (state limit) but cyclists were being ticketed on a downhill for exceeding 25.
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Can they do that legally?
It doesn't really matter if it's legally or not... you still have to PAY for the right to to defend yourself in court (both in time and in scum sucking lawyer fees). Or if you don't have the time and the money, you can just plead guilty and take your ass raping like an adult.

The problem is that innocent or guilty, you are STILL going to suffer the consequences of the actions of the police.

Which is why I repeat at every opportunity: any officer who ever abused his authority, or who ever dared to utter "tell it to the judge" deserves to be immediately be taken into custody, charged with molesting his kids, and given his "fair day in court" to defend himself.

Tell it to the judge indeed.
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It doesn't really matter if it's legally or not... you still have to PAY for the right to to defend yourself in court (both in time and in scum sucking lawyer fees).
In AUS there is a lovely way that you can get back at the cops/prosecutor for going too far - have the magistrate or judge award costs against them. Yes, that's right... the police budget picks up the tab for you and your lawyer. The cops learn real quick when not to bother taking something to court.
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This is where video cameras come in handy, if I lived in NY I would buy one of those ten dollar ebay mini cams. I have a larger camera that I use but I would imagine that a larger camera would be seen and made to disappear. A video is worth a thousand words and would help stop the BS attack against cyclists in NYC.
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Crazy, man, just crazy.
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I suspect at least two officers will have the opportunity to "tell it" to their supervisors, at least one review board, some annoyed city lawyers and a judge.
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It's very hard to keep your cool when people do things that can potentially harm you but what I've learned is to minimize what I say to anyone because you never know if what you say can set some other person off and you end up in a worse situation than if you just rode away and mumbled "figgin idiot" under your breath. That said it's still pretty ridiculous that an officer of the law would go after a cyclist he almost hit with his car door because she expressed her frustration. Things seem to be getting tenser in NYC between cyclists, the general public, and the law where there's this increasing perception that cyclists are these reckless yahoos waiting to crash into anything that moves. Of course scapegoating cyclists just makes it easier for non cyclists to ignore their participation in accidents. Are there reckless cyclists? Indeed there are but if people in this city want to address the issues around traffic safety then we have to look at the actions of reckless motorists, and pedestrians as well.
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What sort of New Yorker doesn't know that you should lie down after a dooring screaming "My neck! Oh, MY NECK!" ???

But, yes, NY cops do seem to suck.
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In the victim's own words:

https://www.nycc.org/message-board/fu...t-sunday/50804
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here is the law where i live
Ride in a straight line at least one metre away from parked vehicles. Keep to this line even if the vehicles are far apart to avoid continuous swerving.

When riding around parked vehicles, cyclists should watch for motorists and passengers who may open their car door into the cyclists' path.
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Originally Posted by crazzywolfie
I'm having trouble finding the double parked police car in their diagram.
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