Spot the Cyclist - Silly Wrong-Way Ninja
07-11-11, 07:14 AM
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Spot the Cyclist - Silly Wrong-Way Ninja
this one i have to share...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoL9L46OsmE
why do people not understand the need to make themselves conspicuous???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoL9L46OsmE
why do people not understand the need to make themselves conspicuous???
07-12-11, 07:49 AM
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I can't for the life of my spot this cyclist, but that is part of the point I guess. Sounds like you got a case of the squeekies!
07-12-11, 08:39 AM
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dood, get yourself some lights
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07-12-11, 04:59 PM
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my brakes are just a little bit out of adjustment.
after we passed each other, it crossed my mind that maybe i should have yelled at him "get some lights!" but really, i was so dumbfounded that a ninja would turn the wrong way down an unlit, narrow one-way street on a dark, rainy and windy night...
i guess that's one of the ancient secrets of the ninja... use the element of surprise to confuse your opponents, so you don't get yelled at. but really... these people seem adamant that they can be seen by motorists. there's nothing i can say that has a snowball's chance in hell of convincing him otherwise. maybe the video can be used to help educate others...?
07-12-11, 05:39 PM
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The last time that I hollered at a cyclist, "Dude, get some lights, no one can see you!", the response was, "That's the way I like it." Yelling advice at people, even totally sensible advice, doesn't work.
07-12-11, 07:59 PM
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I did this a few years back because I was bike-poor and wanted to ride within time constraints due to awful job. I see a lot of cyclists, and non-cyclists, financially pinched.
07-12-11, 08:14 PM
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07-12-11, 08:18 PM
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Wow, he was stealth, only saw him when watching the rear camera.
07-12-11, 09:26 PM
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my front light is a 2W blaze plus a 5-LED orange blinky. for my sub/urban riding, it's more than enough. pointed down about 2-3m in front of the bike, you can see in the video that it's lighting up signs and number plates down the road. the layout of that road hides it, but in use it reflects back to me from signs >100m away on well lit streets. in some of the other videos you can see it reflecting back from signs under a blue sky. it's on the very bottom of the range for a "see" light, but for a "bee seen" light it's solid. if that other guy had a single stitch of reflective stuff, my light and camera would have caught it.
07-12-11, 11:46 PM
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Well I got worse for ya. Granted that it was probably for a short distance, this kid on a bmx bike was ridding on the left lane of opposing traffic. This two lane road is divided by a fence and the kid was of course without lights on the left lane! The only reason I saw him is because there was a dark silhouette against the dusk sky background.
07-13-11, 01:55 PM
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The main take away is that videos like this do not represent real world seeing conditions.
Also the operator of the bicycle from where the video was taken seems to have a flash mode headlight which is terrible for night/dark conditions.
Also the operator of the bicycle from where the video was taken seems to have a flash mode headlight which is terrible for night/dark conditions.
07-13-11, 06:20 PM
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there's nothing objective about the video as it relates to human vision - there can't be, and that's not the intent. human perception of visual events is entirely subjective. subjectively, the video shows that cyclists are invisible when they don't make themselves visible or, better yet, conspicuous.
as stated, this is a sub/urban commute with well lit streets. this particular street is, by far, the darkest bit of road i'm on. a 2W blaze in flash-mode (supplemented with a 5-LED orange blinky) is fine for these conditions. i don't need to have 1000+ lumens in front.
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there's nothing objective about the video as it relates to human vision - there can't be, and that's not the intent. human perception of visual events is entirely subjective. subjectively, the video shows that cyclists are invisible when they don't make themselves visible or, better yet, conspicuous.
The human eye has a much larger dynamic range than a camera. Perhaps your exposure was too low?
There are many instances where a camera will not record something clearly that a naked eye would be able to see.
07-15-11, 05:53 AM
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yup...if he had a decent light he and we coulda seen the ninja he was talking about!
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07-15-11, 05:55 AM
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objectively, how exactly would a video represent real world seeing conditions of a motorist who is talking on the phone, texting, changing CDs, putting on makeup, eating a burger, etc? what if they are focused on the road, but their windshield is caked in crud?
there's nothing objective about the video as it relates to human vision - there can't be, and that's not the intent. human perception of visual events is entirely subjective. subjectively, the video shows that cyclists are invisible when they don't make themselves visible or, better yet, conspicuous.
as stated, this is a sub/urban commute with well lit streets. this particular street is, by far, the darkest bit of road i'm on. a 2W blaze in flash-mode (supplemented with a 5-LED orange blinky) is fine for these conditions. i don't need to have 1000+ lumens in front.
there's nothing objective about the video as it relates to human vision - there can't be, and that's not the intent. human perception of visual events is entirely subjective. subjectively, the video shows that cyclists are invisible when they don't make themselves visible or, better yet, conspicuous.
as stated, this is a sub/urban commute with well lit streets. this particular street is, by far, the darkest bit of road i'm on. a 2W blaze in flash-mode (supplemented with a 5-LED orange blinky) is fine for these conditions. i don't need to have 1000+ lumens in front.
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07-15-11, 05:57 AM
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07-15-11, 06:34 AM
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John Mayers was riding near Blenheim at about 12.30am when he was hit by the heavy van, which was travelling in the same direction.
He was pronounced dead after being taken to Wairau Hospital by ambulance.
An initial investigation into the crash revealed Mr Mayers was wearing dark clothing and had no lights on his bike, police said.
He was pronounced dead after being taken to Wairau Hospital by ambulance.
An initial investigation into the crash revealed Mr Mayers was wearing dark clothing and had no lights on his bike, police said.
feel free to call me a safety-weenie, but i still maintain that going the wrong way down a dark one way street on a rainy night with no front light and no reflectives is just really ****ing stupid.
07-15-11, 06:36 AM
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so did this guy - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10726639
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so did this guy - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10726639
if the guy in my video is lucky enough to have a slightly uncomfortable interaction with a cop before he has a brutally uncomfortable interaction with a windshield, maybe he can learn that lights are a legal requirement at night. thus, absence of (legally compliant) lights is not fine for the conditions.
feel free to call me a safety-weenie, but i still maintain that going the wrong way down a dark one way street on a rainy night with no front light and no reflectives is just really ****ing stupid.
if the guy in my video is lucky enough to have a slightly uncomfortable interaction with a cop before he has a brutally uncomfortable interaction with a windshield, maybe he can learn that lights are a legal requirement at night. thus, absence of (legally compliant) lights is not fine for the conditions.
feel free to call me a safety-weenie, but i still maintain that going the wrong way down a dark one way street on a rainy night with no front light and no reflectives is just really ****ing stupid.
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Yes! All us stupid dullards on BF who are unaware of this information NEED a dang safety-weenie (and PROUD of it) posting every other day this news flash!
07-15-11, 07:45 AM
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Lack of funds for a really bright light is no excuse. Search the "Instructables" site. I built a 15w halogen headlight for a total of about $20-$25, including the 12v deer feeder battery, wires, connectors, and switch. I've been told I look like a motorcycle coming down the street.
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That was my exact point. The video is clearly much darker than real life, so using it to show something is 'invisible'. (meaning to dark to see using human eyes) can not be done with this video.
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20 bucks for a bike headlight...5 bucks for a flashlight and some duct tape..... I hear ya on being financially pinched, but seriously.... and around here there are many wrong way ninjas....
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A co worker, while riding to work a few weeks ago with minimal lighting, ran into a rut or some other obstacle. He broke his shoulder and a couple of teeth. False economy comes to mind. A good seemingly expensive light is very cheap insurance. Front and back.
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