View Poll Results: Helmet wearing habits?
I've never worn a bike helmet
178
10.66%
I used to wear a helmet, but have stopped
94
5.63%
I've always worn a helmet
648
38.80%
I didn't wear a helmet, but now do
408
24.43%
I sometimes wear a helmet depending on the conditions
342
20.48%
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The helmet thread
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I guess I'd need an example of what Sudo is talking about to reply in kind.
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Just checking in... are people trying to talk other people out of a helmet? Or are people just saying they don't need a helmet, leave me alone? I wear a helmet because I'm going bald on top of my head and my ball cap doesn't stay on at 45mph.
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Is there a substative difference between "you're stupid for wearing a helmet" and "you're stupid for not understanding why it's stupid to wear a helmet"?
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With a side of "I don't need a helmet, leave me alone."
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Aw, come on. No need for straw men, eh? Your two alternatives are both rather different from "You're stupid for not understanding the limitations and possible dangers of bike helmets, but please use it if you wish to".
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People are still advocating helmets as unnecessary in the milieu of everyday cycling due to the various detriments attributable to helmets, and the lack of verifiable protective qualities assigned to them in the face of widespread public belief that they protect beyond their design parameters in situations for which they have not been designed, tested, or subsequently found effective.
With a side of "I don't need a helmet, leave me alone."
With a side of "I don't need a helmet, leave me alone."
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Certainly.
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I would like to take the next few moments and be insulting to everyone, but no one in particular.
You all suffer from symbolic oedipal anxiety combined with defensive infantile fantasies and fixated neurotic processing over helmets. Your mothers were hamsters and your fathers smelt of elderberries, you bunch of dweeby lunatics who have delusions about being the degenerate fruit baskets you all are, in addition to being cross dressing dysfunctional buffoons riding around in those bibs you bunch of wrinkly rejects.
And I leave you with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF3kAoLusAg
I thought I would relieve the nauseating boredom a bit.
You all suffer from symbolic oedipal anxiety combined with defensive infantile fantasies and fixated neurotic processing over helmets. Your mothers were hamsters and your fathers smelt of elderberries, you bunch of dweeby lunatics who have delusions about being the degenerate fruit baskets you all are, in addition to being cross dressing dysfunctional buffoons riding around in those bibs you bunch of wrinkly rejects.
And I leave you with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF3kAoLusAg
I thought I would relieve the nauseating boredom a bit.
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And I suppose I disdain folks so dense they can't tell the difference between disdain for helmet wearers vs. disdain for the above kind of folks who also happen to be wearing helmets.
Hope that helps clear things up for you.
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The second one, though, is between you and Sudo. I just really want to see some examples of someone being given a hard time here just because they choose to wear a helmet.
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Oh, I have all kinds of disdain alright. I disdain willfully ignorant people. I disdain people who can't be bothered to spell and punctuate. I disdain cyclists who fall over at the slightest provocation; who are constantly finding pedestrians and animals "magically appearing" in front of them. And I certainly disdain folks who are so galactically stupid that they think merely riding a bicycle without a helmet is tantamount to suicide, and who combine their stupidity with the kind of arrogance that allows them to tell everyone they see to "put on a helmet, moron!!!"
And I suppose I disdain folks so dense they can't tell the difference between disdain for helmet wearers vs. disdain for the above kind of folks who also happen to be wearing helmets.
Hope that helps clear things up for you.
And I suppose I disdain folks so dense they can't tell the difference between disdain for helmet wearers vs. disdain for the above kind of folks who also happen to be wearing helmets.
Hope that helps clear things up for you.
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I don't know anyone who has simply called someone an idiot for wearing a helmet and nothing more. I think nearly, if not everyone, talking about helmet limitations fully admit that there are some situations where they may be helpful. As I said, I even wear one in some limited situations.
Meanwhile, and what the real point of the quoted text was, people are being insanely hypocritical by willingly sacrificing their own optimum safety (by not choosing optimal helmets for safety) and then proceeding to deride people who make a similar decision and decide to forgo one altogether. "Organ donor" or "Darwin candidate" seems to be mentioned a lot about people who just choose not to use one.
And if you've never been lectured about not wearing a helmet, you haven't not worn one often . I've been lectured at from cyclists on the MUP, to coworkers as I walk the bike in, to self appointed safety-police of the Internet.
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I would like to take the next few moments and be insulting to everyone, but no one in particular.
You all suffer from symbolic oedipal anxiety combined with defensive infantile fantasies and fixated neurotic processing over helmets. Your mothers were hamsters and your fathers smelt of elderberries, you bunch of dweeby lunatics who have delusions about being the degenerate fruit baskets you all are, in addition to being cross dressing dysfunctional buffoons riding around in those bibs you bunch of wrinkly rejects.
And I leave you with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF3kAoLusAg
I thought I would relieve the nauseating boredom a bit.
You all suffer from symbolic oedipal anxiety combined with defensive infantile fantasies and fixated neurotic processing over helmets. Your mothers were hamsters and your fathers smelt of elderberries, you bunch of dweeby lunatics who have delusions about being the degenerate fruit baskets you all are, in addition to being cross dressing dysfunctional buffoons riding around in those bibs you bunch of wrinkly rejects.
And I leave you with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF3kAoLusAg
I thought I would relieve the nauseating boredom a bit.
French showing proper use of helmets.
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I think it might be possible to divide cyclists into two groups: those who aren't convinced helmets are necessary, and those who crash because they ran over a road reflector.
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As noted, that's not usually the same thing. People aren't derided for wearing a helmet, but for a) preaching about how it saved them from serious injury or drain bamage, or b) talking about why wearing a helmet is good/necessary/etc. I'm sure there have been exceptions to this, but on the whole I think it's accurate.
Mea culpa. (<-- Swahili for "my bad")
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Helmet does not protect from getting disdainfully punched in the mouth by one of the bare-head brigade for wearing one in the first place...
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I think this conversation may have taken a turn for the worse, lol. There's no reason to be hostile over someone else's personal protection. Please, save the hostility for the lazy driver that is not watching where he is going and claims he 'didn't see you' despite all your reflective gear.
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Have you ever skateboarded?
Back when I still did, I'd be a lot more tired after 2 miles of skateboarding than 2 miles of riding. Same for equivalent times on each; put me on a bike and 30-60 minutes of riding is nothing... make me jog it or skateboard it and my legs will be on fire . Bikes have a mechanical advantage... you can amble along with not much effort. With a skateboard, even its ambling speed requires more effort because you don't have the benefit of gearing to help you..
Back when I still did, I'd be a lot more tired after 2 miles of skateboarding than 2 miles of riding. Same for equivalent times on each; put me on a bike and 30-60 minutes of riding is nothing... make me jog it or skateboard it and my legs will be on fire . Bikes have a mechanical advantage... you can amble along with not much effort. With a skateboard, even its ambling speed requires more effort because you don't have the benefit of gearing to help you..
Weirdly missing the point.
Weirdly missing the point.
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Regardless of the activity, people are not going to tend to use or prefer using closed helmets, including the "skater" types, for high-effort sport
Thus, Monster Pete's notion that the closed "skater" types might be better could be true but it's not relevant because people won't use them.
If people are using closed helmets (including the "skater" type), they are not typically doing high-effort sports in them.
(The fact that there are exceptions, such as triathlon helmets, doesn't mean that is wrong either.)
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