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The helmet thread

Old 08-04-12, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by closetbiker
Irrationality is a human trait, so it's present everywhere however, in matters regarding cycling, it seems the irrationality is in greater abundance where cycling is less within the "norms" of society.

Bikebiz has coverage on the death that shows the rational outweighs the irrational

https://www.bikebiz.com/index.php/new...-debate/013440

... another news outlet chimes in with crap saying cycling is dangerous and helmets are what's going to protect a rider in collision with traffic

https://news.sky.com/story/967839/cyc...incident-named
The victims family is now chiming in saying,

... “We as a family would like to thank everyone for their kind words of support over our tragic and devastating loss of a wonderful son and boyfriend...Everyone who knew Dan loved him for his sense of humour, fun and adventure. He was an experienced cyclist and we want it to be known that he was wearing a helmet... Finally, our family do not want Daniel’s name associated with any protests, or used for any ‘political point-scoring’ whatsoever by pro-cycling lobbyists or similar factions.”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public...cle3498156.ece
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Old 08-04-12, 05:19 PM
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supafast213 posted this in the pictures that make you say DAHELL? thread. not only does it make you say dahell, it makes you wonder so much more. like were there no directions on the helmet on how to wear it? what would happen to her neck if she crashed? how many people fell off their bikes laughing at her? other than the prime question, what were you thinking? I have a feeling she'll have a much higher number on her arm next year.
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Old 08-04-12, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rx Rider
supafast213 posted this in the pictures that make you say DAHELL? thread. not only does it make you say dahell, it makes you wonder so much more. like were there no directions on the helmet on how to wear it? what would happen to her neck if she crashed? how many people fell off their bikes laughing at her? other than the prime question, what were you thinking? I have a feeling she'll have a much higher number on her arm next year.
Must have forgotten her sunglasses.
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Old 08-04-12, 05:48 PM
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That helmet reminds me of another one I saw way back in the 70's

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Old 08-06-12, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rx Rider
supafast213 posted this in the pictures that make you say DAHELL? thread. not only does it make you say dahell, it makes you wonder so much more. like were there no directions on the helmet on how to wear it? what would happen to her neck if she crashed? how many people fell off their bikes laughing at her? other than the prime question, what were you thinking? I have a feeling she'll have a much higher number on her arm next year.
That looks like a triathlon participant, a rider for whom riding a bike is just yet another sport of three at which they can be mediocre or worse. As much a helmet-wearer as they are a cyclist, which is to say, not much. Forgive them, they heard that an pointy helmet was worth incredible "aero" gains... but, of course, the internet vendor they purchased the helmet from neglected to inform them which way was forward with the helmet.
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Old 08-10-12, 08:14 AM
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Toronto Cyclist gets wheel jammed in trolley track, falls and dies. Commentary: https://www.theurbancountry.com/2012/...-bicycles.html

Wear a helmet until North America=Amsterdam? https://www.treehugger.com/bikes/time...ink-twice.html

Best anti-helmet argument I've seen yet: https://www.theurbancountry.com/2010/...warranted.html

Please forgive me if these have been posted before. I haven't been keeping up, just thought you folks would be interested.
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Old 08-13-12, 02:17 AM
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I think kids should be required to wear a helmet, but adults should do as they like. I wear my helmet about half the time (almost always when I'm with my kids, to set a good example; often not when they are not with me). One time that I did wear it, I had been drinking and was watching fireworks (July 4th) and crashed. I had a pretty angry red line along my forehead from the kinetic energy transmitted through the helmet from the concrete to my head, but my head was otherwise okay (and I think that would definitely not have been the case without the helmet). Both my wrists got sprained pretty badly though.
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Old 08-16-12, 12:40 PM
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invisible helmet

https://www.wimp.com/invisiblehelmet/
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Old 08-17-12, 09:59 PM
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Hi guys. I am wanting to dust off my bicycle and start cycling again. I bought a nice new bike and stopped riding quickly after I took a nasty spill. Was just an excuse to stop I guess.

The question I have is regarding the helmet I had purchased back then. It's a Giro Venti... and when I wear it I have some severe feeling pressure points on either side of my head an inch or two above my ears. It feels like it could be really dangerous if I should take a head impact, and at the very least it's supremely uncomfortable. I don't know if it was like this when I bought it or what, but it's barely been used. Is there anything I can/should do about this?

Thanks!
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Old 08-17-12, 10:22 PM
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Hi Volshan you might want to have the store where you got the lid help discern your needs, it could be lots of things from wrong size, to misplaced padding, to straps needing alignment. I think it would be solved faster in person with a "trained" professional. ask for his union card first tho'. good luck and welcome to the club.
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Old 08-17-12, 10:48 PM
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I wonder how loud the straps are? I kinda like this helmet, it has a little alligator on the side.
https://www.designbuzz.com/entry/eco-...s-environment/


I'll bet this helmet makes all the chicks turn and look, and is as loud as an excavator.

it's facing forward.
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Old 08-18-12, 04:50 AM
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Welcome back, Volshan.

Don't worry about the helmet. If it makes you feel safer, by all means wear it, but you are probably making you less safe by wearing it. Instead of focusing on the helmet, you should be more concerned with polishing your bike handling and traffic skills. A Road 1 course from the League of American Bicyclists would be good for that.

Seriously, don't bother with the helmet. It is the least effective piece of the safety puzzle.
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Old 08-18-12, 08:33 AM
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Skye is correct.
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Old 08-18-12, 02:11 PM
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Agreed. If you haven't ridden for a while, the absolute first thing you should do is make sure your bike control is up to scratch, along with your traffic negotiation. These things will get you out of many an accident before they happen.
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Old 08-18-12, 07:04 PM
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I said upthread that I don't believe in telling other people, who are determined not to wear a helmet, what to do. But I also don't agree with telling someone who is on the fence "don't worry about a helmet, it will make you less safe". That's a load of BS.
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Old 08-18-12, 09:08 PM
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https://tv.yahoo.com/news/food-networ...192452444.html

Semi-famous guy gets his face rearranged in a taxi accident. And yet no one is calling him names for not wearing an approved motorsports helmet.
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Old 08-19-12, 01:52 AM
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Six jours, it shouldn't be necessary to point out that inside a vehicle, people already have a steel and plastic "cage" around them, equipped with restraints and airbags, that makes it far less likely their head will get bashed against the pavement or another car. Not impossible, just far less likely. Bicyclists and motorcyclists do not have that protection, no matter how many anecdotal examples you offer. You remind me of the people who say their friend's uncle's stepson's life was saved because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt and was thrown from the crash instead of being trapped to burn inside (despite the fact that every news story I see about people being thrown from their vehicles in a crash, it results in their deaths--maybe those non-seatbelted people should be wearing helmets!).
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Old 08-19-12, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SlackerInc
inside a vehicle, people already have a steel and plastic "cage" around them, equipped with restraints and airbags, that makes it far less likely their head will get bashed against the pavement or another car. Not impossible, just far less likely.
This statement is utterly and totally wrong. CDC figures show that automobile crashes are the largest cause of transportation-related TBI. If you wear a helmet while cycling and don't wear a helmet while driving, you are uninformed or a hypocrite, your pick.

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Old 08-19-12, 07:17 AM
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"Largest cause" only because people do so much driving. Per mile travelled (not "per hour", a pointless and misleading metric), bicycling is significantly more dangerous than riding in a car. And btw I don't wear a helmet when I drive because I don't drive: I bike everywhere I go.
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Well, Slacker, all that wonderful safety stuff isn't much comfort to the guy with the rearranged face, is it? If he'd been wearing an approved motorsports helmet he likely would have walked away.
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Old 08-19-12, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Six jours
Well, Slacker, all that wonderful safety stuff isn't much comfort to the guy with the rearranged face, is it? If he'd been wearing an approved motorsports helmet he likely would have walked away.
He didn't need a helmet. All he needed to do was put on his seat belt.
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I've worn a bike helmet as a passenger in a car, yes that bad of a driver. don't air bags mangle many and kill a few each year? and that cage hasn't done the unrestrained any favors in the last hundred years. like I said before when they make a helmet that protects your head, I'll be wearing one all the time. until then I'll have to lay off the wheelies.
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Originally Posted by Volshan
Hi guys. I am wanting to dust off my bicycle and start cycling again. I bought a nice new bike and stopped riding quickly after I took a nasty spill. Was just an excuse to stop I guess.

The question I have is regarding the helmet I had purchased back then. It's a Giro Venti... and when I wear it I have some severe feeling pressure points on either side of my head an inch or two above my ears. It feels like it could be really dangerous if I should take a head impact, and at the very least it's supremely uncomfortable. I don't know if it was like this when I bought it or what, but it's barely been used. Is there anything I can/should do about this?

Thanks!
The pressure points mean the helmet doesn't fit you correctly. Get a new helmet, try them on at a shop and find one sized so that you don't have any undue pressure points and can secure the helmet to your head with some kind of adjustable head circumference strap, plus chin strap.
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Old 08-19-12, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by skye
This statement is utterly and totally wrong. CDC figures show that automobile crashes are the largest cause of transportation-related TBI. If you wear a helmet while cycling and don't wear a helmet while driving, you are uninformed or a hypocrite, your pick.
Actually, no. What helmets are certified for protection while driving or being a passenger in an automobile...?
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Originally Posted by SlackerInc
I said upthread that I don't believe in telling other people, who are determined not to wear a helmet, what to do. But I also don't agree with telling someone who is on the fence "don't worry about a helmet, it will make you less safe". That's a load of BS.
You don't know that it is BS. In fact, if one looks at the casualty statistics, it seems likely to be true, at least as far as deaths and serious brain injury are concerned.

Where helmets have been made compulsory, deaths and serious injury to cyclists have not declined pro rata to the number of cyclists. In Australia, for example, the number of miles cycled declined, but the number of cycling deaths per mile increased.

Therefore either helmets are not preventing any such deaths and injuries, or for some reason they are giving rise to at least as many as they are preventing. There are various theories as to hy this might be so. The helmet may, on impact, cause the head to rotate more than an unhelmeted head would, giving rise to trauma as the brain is bounced around inside the skull. Helmeted cyclists may actually be at greater risk of accident than the unhelmeted, possibly because of some risk compensation on their part, or on the part of drivers. Whatever the mechanisms, the data is clear. Wearing helmets has not made a contribution to the public health.

They're probably good at preventing superficial injuries in low-speed falls, which is pretty much what they are designed for. Personally i think this advantage is outweighed by the fact that their use seems to correlate with a higher incidence of more serious outcomes.
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