View Poll Results: Helmet wearing habits?
I've never worn a bike helmet




178
10.66%
I used to wear a helmet, but have stopped




94
5.63%
I've always worn a helmet




648
38.80%
I didn't wear a helmet, but now do




408
24.43%
I sometimes wear a helmet depending on the conditions




342
20.48%
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The helmet thread
#5526
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The Truth is somewhere between Rydabent's views and Meanwhile's views...
Who's selling fear...?

#5528
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When you speak of "the present design" it suggests that even after all the time that you've spent on this thread you're unaware that there are multiple helmet standards to choose from.
Helmets in limited circumstances provide protection against non-brain threatening head injuries.
For the average rider in locations where they are mandated by law they also provide the ability to ride one's bicycle without being interfered with by busy bodies.
They also confer upon "the average rider" a magical safeness ( many of these average riders would have DIED without their helmets! )
It's also something not very well known, but if you read the small print that comes with your helmet you'll find it there, that possession of a helmet confers upon the wearer the right to shout at non-helmet wearers to wear a helmet, also to post in internet forums about how they're smart and responsible for wearing them. This comes with the proviso that any questioning of the Saved is a sort of victimization by the forces of evil.
Helmets also allow the suppression of mind-control waves (which are otherwise picked up by the antennae, or "hair") and enable the wearer to clearly see which of the other cyclists are Saved, or Unbelievers.
Helmets in limited circumstances provide protection against non-brain threatening head injuries.
For the average rider in locations where they are mandated by law they also provide the ability to ride one's bicycle without being interfered with by busy bodies.
They also confer upon "the average rider" a magical safeness ( many of these average riders would have DIED without their helmets! )
It's also something not very well known, but if you read the small print that comes with your helmet you'll find it there, that possession of a helmet confers upon the wearer the right to shout at non-helmet wearers to wear a helmet, also to post in internet forums about how they're smart and responsible for wearing them. This comes with the proviso that any questioning of the Saved is a sort of victimization by the forces of evil.
Helmets also allow the suppression of mind-control waves (which are otherwise picked up by the antennae, or "hair") and enable the wearer to clearly see which of the other cyclists are Saved, or Unbelievers.


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Why would someone shout for you to wear a helmet?

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Seriously thought of stopping using a helmet on my last century ride. My neck got so sore I wanted to throw the darned thing under a truck. I took it off for the last 20km and felt alot better.

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That wont happen if you ride a recumbent. It is one of the main reasons I have a recumbent bike and trike. On a bent you sit upright and see all around with no neck strain at all of course.
That wont happen if you ride a recumbent. It is one of the main reasons I have a recumbent bike and trike. On a bent you sit upright and see all around with no neck strain at all of course.

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Somehow can't see that happening with a bent

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Maybe you should try some neck strengthening exercises, you're a little too weak if you can't hold up the average 265 gram helmet.

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#5538
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try 500 gram. I have to ask, you really think 265grams is going to do _anything_ for protection? seriously. Thats half of my helmet weight and I don't think it'll do any miracles.

#5539
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One of the best tactics to shoot down a proposed MHL during committee/public comment stages is to suggest that, if we are so concerned about head injury, we go for the real low-hanging fruit, those driving or riding in cars and trucks, which make up the vast majority of head/brain injuries in the USA. Why waste time on outlier groups like cyclists, why not go for the real issue, cars and trucks? Demand that the MHL bill be amended to include all road users. Because if we're really concerned about the social and societal cost of head/brain injury, we should also include the leading cause...

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There's a syndrome called Shermer's Neck named after the multi-time RAAM champion. Helmet or no helmet, neck muscles spasm after holding the head up for a long time. Over time, with more riding, the muscles get more used to the job, and most people wouldn't get Shermer's neck unless riding 10+ hours per day for a week, but some get neck spasms very easily.
Like saddle sores, or leg cramps it can happen to anybody. It helps to relax the neck by memorizing the stretch ahead and letting your head droop to where you're looking at the front wheel, or even the BB. Count a few seconds, look up check the road and repeat. (this works best when climbing).
Also take the time to stretch and flex your neck, rolling your head on your shoulders, looking right and left. Generally, learn to keep your hear moving as you ride so you don't get white line fever or Shermer's Neck.
Whether to wear a helmet on the road is your decision, and I respect it either way, but this shouldn't be a reason not to.
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At long last Captain Obvious has made an appearance. I was starting to doubt his existence!
Really? They don't all use incredibly cheap EPS?
Jeez. Why do you bother with this thread at all? Why would you think that MORE venting was safer?
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DUH, thanks for pointing out all my errors, your the smartest guy on the forum.

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There's a syndrome called Shermer's Neck named after the multi-time RAAM champion. Helmet or no helmet, neck muscles spasm after holding the head up for a long time. Over time, with more riding, the muscles get more used to the job, and most people wouldn't get Shermer's neck unless riding 10+ hours per day for a week, but some get neck spasms very easily.
Like saddle sores, or leg cramps it can happen to anybody. It helps to relax the neck by memorizing the stretch ahead and letting your head droop to where you're looking at the front wheel, or even the BB. Count a few seconds, look up check the road and repeat. (this works best when climbing).
Also take the time to stretch and flex your neck, rolling your head on your shoulders, looking right and left. Generally, learn to keep your hear moving as you ride so you don't get white line fever or Shermer's Neck.
Whether to wear a helmet on the road is your decision, and I respect it either way, but this shouldn't be a reason not to.
Like saddle sores, or leg cramps it can happen to anybody. It helps to relax the neck by memorizing the stretch ahead and letting your head droop to where you're looking at the front wheel, or even the BB. Count a few seconds, look up check the road and repeat. (this works best when climbing).
Also take the time to stretch and flex your neck, rolling your head on your shoulders, looking right and left. Generally, learn to keep your hear moving as you ride so you don't get white line fever or Shermer's Neck.
Whether to wear a helmet on the road is your decision, and I respect it either way, but this shouldn't be a reason not to.
Not too many people will be riding for 10 hours plus around here, a few guys who may do a double century but most of those won't experience that. I let you know if it effects me in about 11 to 13 weeks.

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The A&S forum has some of the crankiest, nastiest posts here on BF. I've been is a few flamethrower threads on the mechanics side, but compared to this forum, we're a bunch of ladies having high tea.
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