View Poll Results: Helmet wearing habits?
I've never worn a bike helmet
178
10.66%
I used to wear a helmet, but have stopped
94
5.63%
I've always worn a helmet
648
38.80%
I didn't wear a helmet, but now do
408
24.43%
I sometimes wear a helmet depending on the conditions
342
20.48%
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The helmet thread
07-09-13, 10:12 AM
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I think you've just invented the regenerative helmet.
I look forward to your brochure.
07-09-13, 11:55 AM
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07-09-13, 01:37 PM
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FWIW, I don't think your giant brush is that bad of an idea. Most of the guys left here are basically here
to voice the same points and opinions they've been posting here for quite a while now, and I notice the usual
suspects appear every time someone new shows up to point out the logical fallacies regularly espoused
by the helmentless. When you carry on a crusade long enough, most of the more sensible tend to drift away.
At risk of stating the obvious, this thread is now on page 232, and guys like i like to bike and razr skut are still
happily trolling away at every appearance of a logical pro helmet position, while giving voice to their absolute
dedication to the thread's "progress". It's inspirational, in an obsessive compulsive sorta way.
to voice the same points and opinions they've been posting here for quite a while now, and I notice the usual
suspects appear every time someone new shows up to point out the logical fallacies regularly espoused
by the helmentless. When you carry on a crusade long enough, most of the more sensible tend to drift away.
At risk of stating the obvious, this thread is now on page 232, and guys like i like to bike and razr skut are still
happily trolling away at every appearance of a logical pro helmet position, while giving voice to their absolute
dedication to the thread's "progress". It's inspirational, in an obsessive compulsive sorta way.
This is what you emerged from Trollheim for, to break this thread down with your "obvious" simplicity?
Better yet, you of all people, have the nerve to dis anyone as a "troll" because their posts don't line up with your version of "obvious".
07-09-13, 01:50 PM
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At risk of stating the obvious, this thread is now on page 232, and guys like i like to bike and razr skut are still
happily trolling away at every appearance of a logical pro helmet position, while giving voice to their absolute
dedication to the thread's "progress". It's inspirational, in an obsessive compulsive sorta way.
"The logical fallacies regularly espoused by the helmentless" vice the "logical pro helmet position"
This is what you emerged from Trollheim for, to break this thread down with your "obvious" simplicity?
Better yet, you of all people, have the nerve to dis anyone as a "troll" because their posts don't line up with your version of "obvious".
This is what you emerged from Trollheim for, to break this thread down with your "obvious" simplicity?
Better yet, you of all people, have the nerve to dis anyone as a "troll" because their posts don't line up with your version of "obvious".
it changes significantly the meaning of the statement. Since you are quoting me, I take exception to it.
As for your last sentence, ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of the logically unarmed.
Nice use of the emoticon. I really
emoticons..........
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07-09-13, 02:04 PM
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"Quote marks" indicate a quote, look it up.
07-09-13, 02:56 PM
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.....I know that this is probably too fine a point for you, but when you change the article from "a" to "the",
it changes significantly the meaning of the statement. Since you are quoting me, I take exception to it.
As for your last sentence, ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of the logically unarmed.
Nice use of the emoticon. I really emoticons..........
it changes significantly the meaning of the statement. Since you are quoting me, I take exception to it.
As for your last sentence, ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of the logically unarmed.
Nice use of the emoticon. I really
emoticons..........
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Going topless
On my little neighborhood 'Roll-about' this evening I left the helmet on the shelf. I figure at 6 to 8 MPH it would be hard, even for me, to fall off my Volae Tour seriously enough to do any damage. (Not being a complete fool though I did wear my gloves to protect my hands in case I tipped over.)
It felt nice to be free!!
p.s. It also felt a little bit naughty.
Anyone else care to confess?
It felt nice to be free!!
p.s. It also felt a little bit naughty.
Anyone else care to confess?
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07-09-13, 06:54 PM
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How did you not end up brain damaged. Your a terrible example for kids. Stop the insanity.
07-09-13, 08:09 PM
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Saw a middle aged fellow riding topless except for a heart rate monitor chest strap a few years ago. Wasn't a pretty sight. Since I got my HRM this year I've threatened my wife that I might go for that look.
I would wear a helmet, of course.
I would wear a helmet, of course.
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07-09-13, 08:16 PM
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Some people give money to the homeless; I give money to the topless. I consider it a public service, since they have no visible means of support. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
07-09-13, 08:24 PM
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Intuitively, I'd say the increased risk of death for a 50+ riding without a helmet is considerably less than a 20-something. I too ride helmet-less, at times --> cooler, freer, and more fun.
07-09-13, 08:28 PM
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Yesterday I went for a walk along a popular bike trail. There was a family of 4 with 2 little ones coming at me. They were all barely moving when the 6 year old wobbled the handle bars went perpendicular to the frame and she flopped face first over the handle bars. I ran over and helped the mom check her out. Both knees were scraped and I told her mom to check her teeth... they were fine. Then the mom took the helmet off and she had a bump the side of a chicken egg on her forehead. Even though she had a helmet on it was tilted back and her forehead took a beating.
Don't be foolish.. .wear a helmet. Even riding a bike slow is not like walking down the street.
Don't be foolish.. .wear a helmet. Even riding a bike slow is not like walking down the street.
07-09-13, 08:36 PM
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I'll leave it home occasionally for a putz on the folder, but only if my wife isn't around. She's on the "Brain Injury Alliance of Iowa" board.
07-09-13, 08:42 PM
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I rode and raced back when nobody wore a hardshell helmet. It was a pretty safe activity back then.
Now, of course, cycling without a helmet is terribly dangerous and anyone who tries it deserves what he gets.
I understand that in some quarters this is considered "progress".
Now, of course, cycling without a helmet is terribly dangerous and anyone who tries it deserves what he gets.
I understand that in some quarters this is considered "progress".
07-09-13, 08:44 PM
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You don't only wear a helmet in case you do something stupid or careless. A few days ago in my neighborhood a helmetless (not topless) young woman was killed by a hit and run driver who ran a stop sign....
07-09-13, 08:52 PM
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Stories of helmeted cyclists killed by careless drivers are not terribly uncommon. Expecting a few ounces of Styrofoam to protect you from thousand of pounds of onrushing steel is... optimistic.
07-09-13, 08:59 PM
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Posers ride topless. Wear a helmet. It could save your better 1/2 lot's of grief.
07-09-13, 09:25 PM
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Yesterday, a quick trip to the store and boy it felt good to leave that silly helmet at home.
07-09-13, 09:33 PM
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07-09-13, 09:35 PM
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"And that brain bucket you own? It was never designed to prevent concussions."
Some (perhaps) surprising information about helmets;
Some (perhaps) surprising information about helmets;
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07-09-13, 10:15 PM
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Not surprising. Helmets are designed to protect against major, devastating head injury - fractures and the like. The foam has to be hard enough for those impacts. For smaller impacts, that cause concussion, the foam is too hard. It is a design trade off.
I slipped on a wet floor once, fell on my back, hit my head, was knocked unconscious and woke with EMTs over me. I was traveling zero mph. So slow speed doesn't mean you won't slam your head into the ground.
I slipped on a wet floor once, fell on my back, hit my head, was knocked unconscious and woke with EMTs over me. I was traveling zero mph. So slow speed doesn't mean you won't slam your head into the ground.
07-09-13, 10:27 PM
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In the middle of a 1000k brevet last week, on a hot afternoon in North Carolina, I was thinking. Dangerous to do while riding, but for 1000k, what else is there to do? I was thinking about my predicament - slavered in sunscreen while wearing damp clothes from an earlier thunderstorm. I saw this guy mowing with a big tractor, the kind with a roof over the driver. And I was thinking, why don't I have a roof? Instead of going topless and having to apply a fresh layer of sunscreen every few hours, I could have a roof protecting me from the elements. That would be awesome.
