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The helmet thread

Old 07-17-13, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BruceWee
I completely agree rekmeyata. In fact, I would expand this and hound the family members of pedestrians who weren't wearing helmets.

In fact, given the fact that taking the bus is far far safer than walking, cycling, or driving in terms of fatalities per billion kilometers I think we should strip the assets of the families of anyone injured on the roads who was not riding the bus.

And we should piss in their shoes just for being so stupid too.
Not extreme enough. Wearing a helmet is worse than any of that.
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Old 07-17-13, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by License2Ill
I did earlier. I don't know why you continue to overlook the most clear and known part of the conversation.
I think we're having a disagreement over the use of the word "range". I'm using it in its normal sense and you're using it to mean a single value.
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Old 07-17-13, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RazrSkutr
I think we're having a disagreement over the use of the word "range". I'm using it in its normal sense and you're using it to mean a single value.
I believe the range here is 0 to 100J flat, 0 to 65J hemispherical, 0 to 58J curb...
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Originally Posted by RazrSkutr
I think we're having a disagreement over the use of the word "range". I'm using it in its normal sense and you're using it to mean a single value.
No, the minimum range is of impact energies from 0-100J against flat surfaces, from 0-65J against a more pointed hemispherical surface, and from 0-58J for a more pointed "curb " or edge surface. Every value in between is covered by those impact loads. Within those impact energies, a head or brain will receive(or create) less than 300G of acceleration.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
... The same was true with seat belts years ago, the Libs all said the same thing you're saying about helmets, but the medical cost of the ignorance of people not wanting to wear seatbelts skyrocketed so eventually the government stepped in and made it a law to wear belts...
I recall there were referendums, but it was a long time ago. The whole social cost theory behind these laws is an economic fraud. Literally no part of it holds up well under scrutiny.
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Old 07-17-13, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceWee
I completely agree rekmeyata. In fact, I would expand this and hound the family members of pedestrians who weren't wearing helmets.

In fact, given the fact that taking the bus is far far safer than walking, cycling, or driving in terms of fatalities per billion kilometers I think we should strip the assets of the families of anyone injured on the roads who was not riding the bus.

And we should piss in their shoes just for being so stupid too.
I agree with you, and raise the taxes on everyone and cost of health insurance so everyone can pay for the idiots that don't wear helmets...wait, we're already doing that...nevermind.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
I agree with you, and raise the taxes on everyone and cost of health insurance so everyone can pay for the idiots that don't wear helmets...wait, we're already doing that...nevermind.
Ban cars and sugar and you'll save a LOT more than banning helmet-free cycling.
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Old 07-17-13, 03:28 PM
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Just picked up one of these:

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Old 07-17-13, 03:32 PM
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Old 07-17-13, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by License2Ill
There ya have it 237 pages of nothing but thick skulls. Of course there's no choice, because there shouldn't even be a market for these things, because our thick skulls will be just fine after multiple attempts to increase our knowledge base.
And we can sum up your total contribution to this thread with "I'm right and anyone who disagrees with me is too stupid to be allowed to make his own choices."
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Old 07-17-13, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by License2Ill
It (that Libertarians think absolutely everything they disagree with is a threat to their "freedom") is because everything and everybody is a threat to their sense of self, and ultimately their self-esteem within that idea. An island of one makes them feels safely in control of their world.
Well, no, actually it's because so many lawmakers think like you do - the "I'm right and anyone who disagrees with me is too stupid to be allowed to make his own choices" paradigm discussed earlier - so reasonable people understand we have to be cautious about allowing ourselves to be told what to do even when the particular topic seems innocuous.

Short version: when people with obnoxiously high opinions of themselves are given too much power, the rest of us suffer.
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Old 07-17-13, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Six jours
Well, no, actually it's because so many lawmakers think like you do - the "I'm right and anyone who disagrees with me is too stupid to be allowed to make his own choices" paradigm discussed earlier - so reasonable people understand we have to be cautious about allowing ourselves to be told what to do even when the particular topic seems innocuous.

Short version: when people with obnoxiously high opinions of themselves are given too much power, the rest of us suffer.
You wouldn't know how to think clearly enough to see it coming. Thus, libertarians miss the fact that they aren't thinking for themselves just by trying to be who they think they are, but really aren't. You are what you despise, and only in denial of it by the mere fact that you want everything on your terms and forget that you got those terms from others. Those others have power over you because you are already using their terms to perceive your world, and now you want to rebel against their ideas as if you understand them, when you clearly are just interested in rebelling and not understanding.
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Old 07-17-13, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by License2Ill
You wouldn't know how to think clearly enough to see it coming. Thus, libertarians miss the fact that they aren't thinking for themselves just by trying to be who they think they are, but really aren't. You are what you despise, and only in denial of it by the mere fact that you want everything on your terms and forget that you got those terms from others. Those others have power over you because you are already using their terms to perceive your world, and now you want to rebel against their ideas as if you understand them.
You'll find, eventually, that junior college sociology lectures don't actually make much sense in the real world.
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Originally Posted by Six jours
Does your dorm mate know you have his bong?
I knew you wouldn't understand it. Waste of breath upon the easily led.
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Old 07-17-13, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Six jours
And we can sum up your total contribution to this thread with "I'm right and anyone who disagrees with me is too stupid to be allowed to make his own choices."
That is correct. I'm right because I'm informed.

Stupidity or ignorance? Denial or self-pity? Take your pick. I was nice enough to consider it a lack of information, but there is clearly a component of will involved. That's the standard called negligence in a court of law.
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Old 07-17-13, 04:55 PM
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You're out of your league, you stupid twit. Why don't you go **** yourself. Obviously no one else will do it for you.
Cute, even by A&S standards.
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Old 07-17-13, 04:59 PM
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Cute, even by A&S standards.
I like your quote interpretations. But if you're trying to make it look like I edited, your games will show through as much as the rest of the childish stances about helmets.
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Old 07-17-13, 05:03 PM
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You might as well stop addressing posts to me. I'm all the way through with your nonsense.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Ban cars and sugar and you'll save a LOT more than banning helmet-free cycling.
Great idea, lead the way brother.
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Originally Posted by Six jours
You'll find, eventually, that junior college sociology lectures don't actually make much sense in the real world.
Jr college didn't make much sense in the real world? Neither did graduate school!!!
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Yes, less education, please. Start the chant amongst the independent thinkerers. We always knew it wasn't really about head injuries, but about fears of loss of self, as expressed from the cerebral cortex region.
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WOW, someone needs to be spanked for changeing other peoples words into something they didn't actually say... JMO Either that, or I am too drunk to make sence of this dialog/banter...
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OK, I may have had 1 too many, but...Talk talk, it's only talk...Arguments, Agreements, Answers, Advice, It's only talk... Babble, Burbble, Banter, Bru ha-ha, Balderdash Ballyhoo, It's only talk... Back Talk, Talk Talk Talk it's only talk...Comments, Commentary, Chatter, Chitchat, Conversation, Criticism, It's only talk...Discussions, Debates, Dialog, Duelog, Diatribe, Descension, Declaration, Doubletalk, It's all talk Too much talk Smalltalk Talk that trash, Expression, Editorials, Exaggerations, it's only talk... Elephant talk, Elephant talk...
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Originally Posted by Six jours
Originally Posted by License2Ill
You're out of your league, you stupid twit. Why don't you go **** yourself. Obviously no one else will do it for you.
Cute, even by A&S standards.
I have to say, fabricating abusive quotes is a new low, even for the h****t thread. Meanwile was banned for far less.
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