No wonder some motorists seem to have no clue... they BOUGHT their licenses.
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No wonder some motorists seem to have no clue... they BOUGHT their licenses.
https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAAU1OCISL.DTL
There are folks out there that failed to pass written or driving tests or felt they could not pass and were issued drivers licenses anyway, because they bribed the officials.
Yup, they had more money than driving skills... and now they are out there "sharing the road" with you.
Applicants who failed driving tests or were unwilling to take them paid "recruiters" who, in turn, bribed employees at offices in suburban El Cajon and Rancho San Diego to enter false scores, according to the complaint.
Four state employees and the head of a driving school in El Cajon were charged with bribery. The complaint charges 16 others, mostly applicants accused of paying bribes.
The FBI made 17 arrests Wednesday in San Diego, Los Angeles and Orange counties. Two others were issued notices to appear in court, and two were at large.
Four state employees and the head of a driving school in El Cajon were charged with bribery. The complaint charges 16 others, mostly applicants accused of paying bribes.
The FBI made 17 arrests Wednesday in San Diego, Los Angeles and Orange counties. Two others were issued notices to appear in court, and two were at large.
There are folks out there that failed to pass written or driving tests or felt they could not pass and were issued drivers licenses anyway, because they bribed the officials.
Yup, they had more money than driving skills... and now they are out there "sharing the road" with you.
Applicants paid $400 to $500 each for regular driver's licenses and between $2,500 and $3,000 for commercial driver's licenses, according to the complaint.
Some applicants were unfit to drive, according to the complaint. In September, one applicant got a license after stopping at a green light and driving on the wrong side of the road four times during her test.
In December, a state employee expressed concern that an applicant was "gonna kill someone," but agreed to issue a license anyway, the complaint said.
Some applicants were unfit to drive, according to the complaint. In September, one applicant got a license after stopping at a green light and driving on the wrong side of the road four times during her test.
In December, a state employee expressed concern that an applicant was "gonna kill someone," but agreed to issue a license anyway, the complaint said.
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IMO those employees should be on the hook for medical expenses for anyone injured by these guys, at least partially.
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The bad part is that even if a person doesn't have a driver's license in the US, many will still drive without one, in that the US road/business infrastructure caters to auto usage.
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Yeah I agree that's pretty bad, but it's not like I view someone that's past the driving test as a candidate for mensa either. Driving tests, both written and physical are ridiculously easy. What do we constantly hear over and over again "driving is a privilege, not a right." Yet the gov't treats it like the exact opposite. You should actually have to prove you're intelligent before you can drive, But I'm sure that would be construed as discrimination in some warped way.
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Yeah I agree that's pretty bad, but it's not like I view someone that's passed the driving test as a candidate for Mensa either. Driving tests, both written and physical are ridiculously easy. What do we constantly hear over and over again "driving is a privilege, not a right." Yet the gov't treats it like the exact opposite. You should actually have to prove you're intelligent before you can drive, But I'm sure that would be construed as discrimination in some warped way.
And agreed in that sadly, that not only the government but the average person walking the street seems to treat driving as an "engraved in stone right" when the truth of the matter it isn't.
As sadly it is way too easy to get a license and way to hard to have it revoked. When it should be the other way around. It should be extremely difficult to get a license and it should be easy to lose it.
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Same thing has been going on in New Jersey. They say over 50,000 drivers in the state of NJ bribed someone at DMV. But then they changed the name of the DMV to MVC "Motor Vehicle Commision". But the bribery and "fake" lisences are still going on. But what I heard is that in New Jersey, they only have to pay fifty dollars ($50.00) to get a lisence.
Google just came up with another scam in New Hampsire:
https://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS03/705039947
I'm still looking for NJ, but here's another story about bribes for lisences in Tennessee:
https://www.wbir.com/news/article/217...ccepting-bribe
Colorado too:
https://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...writethru.html
State of Washington as well:
https://www.seattlepi.com/news/articl...me-3506268.php
Here it IS, New Jersey:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...149368875.html
No more jokes about people driving with lisences they got out of a cracker-jacks box. This is for real. (String of expletives deleted.)
Google just came up with another scam in New Hampsire:
https://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS03/705039947
I'm still looking for NJ, but here's another story about bribes for lisences in Tennessee:
https://www.wbir.com/news/article/217...ccepting-bribe
Colorado too:
https://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...writethru.html
State of Washington as well:
https://www.seattlepi.com/news/articl...me-3506268.php
Here it IS, New Jersey:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...149368875.html
No more jokes about people driving with lisences they got out of a cracker-jacks box. This is for real. (String of expletives deleted.)
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Same thing has been going on in New Jersey. They say over 50,000 drivers in the state of NJ bribed someone at DMV. But then they changed the name of the DMV to MVC "Motor Vehicle Commision". But the bribery and "fake" lisences are still going on. But what I heard is that in New Jersey, they only have to pay fifty dollars ($50.00) to get a lisence.
Google just came up with another scam in New Hampsire:
https://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS03/705039947
I'm still looking for NJ, but here's another story about bribes for lisences in Tennessee:
https://www.wbir.com/news/article/217...ccepting-bribe
Colorado too:
https://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...writethru.html
State of Washington as well:
https://www.seattlepi.com/news/articl...me-3506268.php
Here it IS, New Jersey:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...149368875.html
No more jokes about people driving with lisences they got out of a cracker-jacks box. This is for real. (String of expletives deleted.)
Google just came up with another scam in New Hampsire:
https://www.unionleader.com/article/2...WS03/705039947
I'm still looking for NJ, but here's another story about bribes for lisences in Tennessee:
https://www.wbir.com/news/article/217...ccepting-bribe
Colorado too:
https://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...writethru.html
State of Washington as well:
https://www.seattlepi.com/news/articl...me-3506268.php
Here it IS, New Jersey:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...149368875.html
No more jokes about people driving with lisences they got out of a cracker-jacks box. This is for real. (String of expletives deleted.)
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Assuming that the new reality show 'Last Chance Driving School' is not actually just made up, it is scary seeing how badly the people drive that still pass the driving test in NY.
Now, imagining the people that cannot even pass that test but bribe for their license...
Now, imagining the people that cannot even pass that test but bribe for their license...
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Watching how much time they spent driving outside of their lane, the lane is much safer.
Just like incompetent shooters, the safest place is in front of the target they are trying to hit.
Just like incompetent shooters, the safest place is in front of the target they are trying to hit.
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My 27 y/o daughter just got her license. She said the driving examiner was texting the entire time.
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I find it really depressing that there are people out there for whom the complexities of a driver's test are so far beyond their abilities that they have to resort to bribes to get a license.
"Some applicants were unfit to drive, according to the complaint. In September, one applicant got a license after stopping at a green light and driving on the wrong side of the road four times during her test."
What? How? Why? Can this person even tie their own shoes? Seriously?
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Since there is no system devised and used by man that can't be corrupted, all we can hope for is to MINIMIZE the damage. Since no one has seemingly acted on my idea of long-term eye dilation for offenders, I'm stumped. I'm sure many people would consider it 'too harsh' to have the conspirators (that's what these people are, both the bribe-makers AND the bribe-takers -- they have agreed to engage in a crime) run the gauntlet on a military sniper-school course.................
Suspension/revocation only stops the harmless, like door locks and padlocks; jails are overcrowded. Fines are simply not paid.
How do you instill (the fear of g-d) in the otherwise fearless ("What you gonna do to me? THAT? Whatever....")??
Suspension/revocation only stops the harmless, like door locks and padlocks; jails are overcrowded. Fines are simply not paid.
How do you instill (the fear of g-d) in the otherwise fearless ("What you gonna do to me? THAT? Whatever....")??
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This is what DMV employees do for money when you crack down on them charging those fees for issuing licenses to illegal aliens.
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Again, suspending one's license won't stop many motorists from driving. Just a couple of days ago a young local woman, with a suspended license and fleeing from law enforcement, lost control of her vehicle and collided with young couple's vehicle, killing the wife, and the husband was severely injured.
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Again, suspending one's license won't stop many motorists from driving. Just a couple of days ago a young local woman, with a suspended license and fleeing from law enforcement, lost control of her vehicle and collided with young couple's vehicle, killing the wife, and the husband was severely injured.
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The incident that I previously mentioned the young woman had a long history of alcohol and drug convictions, and her license was suspended from a recent DUI conviction. This young woman now faces 8 felony charges which also includes 1 count of murder.
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Yes, that sounds very ironic, but it is often how things work out.
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Okay, I don't know which is worse. Examiners who can be bribed into giving a person a drivers license, or examiners who are texting when they should be concentrating on their job of testing a new driver.
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I think the people should get their licenses revoked for life. Same thing should happen to people who get a second DUI .
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Again, it won't do any good, at least in most of the US where driving is such an addiction and the infrastructure landscape is designed around. The lack of a laminated document isn't going to stop the worst offenders from driving, some or longer incarceration time and stiffer fines/community service might be a better option.
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Again, it won't do any good, at least in most of the US where driving is such an addiction and the infrastructure landscape is designed around. The lack of a laminated document isn't going to stop the worst offenders from driving, some or longer incarceration time and stiffer fines/community service might be a better option.
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Good luck on that thought, at least here in California.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ound-vehicles/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ound-vehicles/