NJ Transit may reverse its restrictive policy
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NJ Transit may reverse its restrictive policy
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Yes, the new policy requires that bikes can ONLY be brought aboard at stations that have elevators, like Cranford, on the Raritan Valley Line.
Being as I have a utility bike, I only use Cranford anyway.
The Long Island Rail Road, where I live , installed handicapped accessible platforms in 1998, but with wheelchair ramps, Not Elevators.
Note: The Raritan Valley line is elevated, above street level most of the way.
Being as I have a utility bike, I only use Cranford anyway.
The Long Island Rail Road, where I live , installed handicapped accessible platforms in 1998, but with wheelchair ramps, Not Elevators.
Note: The Raritan Valley line is elevated, above street level most of the way.
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Okay, what happens if one gets on at a location where one is allowed but they're still on and the last stop is someplace where they're not allowed to disembark? What then?
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Fortunately, the Long Island Rail Road has made ALL it's stations handicapped accessable. This is New Jersey Transit's problem.
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Yes, the new policy requires that bikes can ONLY be brought aboard at stations that have elevators, like Cranford, on the Raritan Valley Line.
Being as I have a utility bike, I only use Cranford anyway.
The Long Island Rail Road, where I live , installed handicapped accessible platforms in 1998, but with wheelchair ramps, Not Elevators.
Note: The Raritan Valley line is elevated, above street level most of the way.
Being as I have a utility bike, I only use Cranford anyway.
The Long Island Rail Road, where I live , installed handicapped accessible platforms in 1998, but with wheelchair ramps, Not Elevators.
Note: The Raritan Valley line is elevated, above street level most of the way.
Many train stations do not have elevated platforms. Only about half of the RVL has elevated platforms.
My guess is that too many people where asking the train crew to lift their heavy a$$ x-mart bikes on to the train.
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No, I think the problem is that bringing it up the steep and narrow stairs is tricky and hazardous. I mean, it actually is. I'm strong, and it's even tricky for me. One little mistake could hurt someone.
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The current rule is you can only bring a non-folding bike, or a segway, on to a train if the platform is elevated. That means you can just roll your bike on to the train with out lifting it. It doesn't matter if the station has an elevator.
Many train stations do not have elevated platforms. Only about half of the RVL has elevated platforms.
You can only get on, and off, at elevated platfroms. So you have to plan you use of the train accordingly.
My guess is that too many people where asking the train crew to lift their heavy a$$ x-mart bikes on to the train.
Many train stations do not have elevated platforms. Only about half of the RVL has elevated platforms.
You can only get on, and off, at elevated platfroms. So you have to plan you use of the train accordingly.
My guess is that too many people where asking the train crew to lift their heavy a$$ x-mart bikes on to the train.
Is there a door mid car (or wherever) that people with wheelchairs/motorized mobility devices use? I can see a non-elevated platform being "dangerous" for a person in a wheelchair or with a motorized mobility device, but why would it be "dangerous" for a person pushing a bicycle?
Sadly, your guess might be closer to the truth then the "safety" factor.
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Again, I ask how many doors are there in the car? Why can't a person with a bicycle use the same door that they used to board whether the station has an elevated platform or not?
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There are varying numbers of doors, depending on the cars. Often, there are three, where the middle door opens to an elevated platform. The doors at the ends have steps leading down from them, so you can walk from those doors to an elevated platform or to the street level, depending on the station. The steps are narrow and steep, so without an elevated platform, carrying a bike is quite tricky.
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There are varying numbers of doors, depending on the cars. Often, there are three, where the middle door opens to an elevated platform. The doors at the ends have steps leading down from them, so you can walk from those doors to an elevated platform or to the street level, depending on the station. The steps are narrow and steep, so without an elevated platform, carrying a bike is quite tricky.
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Okay, how many doors are there on these cars? If it's safe to get on at a station with an elevated platform what changes if there isn't an elevated platform?
Is there a door mid car (or wherever) that people with wheelchairs/motorized mobility devices use? I can see a non-elevated platform being "dangerous" for a person in a wheelchair or with a motorized mobility device, but why would it be "dangerous" for a person pushing a bicycle?
Is there a door mid car (or wherever) that people with wheelchairs/motorized mobility devices use? I can see a non-elevated platform being "dangerous" for a person in a wheelchair or with a motorized mobility device, but why would it be "dangerous" for a person pushing a bicycle?
Low platform station = doors open only where stairs are set up; a bike can be carried on stairs by its rider but a wheelchair and its occupant pretty much have to roll.
Generally, the middle-of-car doors can't equipped with stairs so they won't be used at low platform stations (and not all cars have middle doors anyway).
Personally, even as a petite female, I don't have problems carrying my bike up and down train stairs (although wider stairs are certainly easier). I also board/detrain last and in general try to be very, very careful, but I can imagine that someone might have caused something. Frankly I could accidentally hurt someone by being careless with a large suitcase, large tote, large shopping bag, or all of the above.
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