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Old 06-18-12, 11:44 PM
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Motorist tries to run over young cyclists

From the S.F. Chronicle:https://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...421T.DTL&tsp=1

A couple of thugs in a pick-up tried to run down two boys on bikes. One of the victims dumped his bike and jumped away; the bike was crushed. On the bright side, witnesses came forward and arrests were made. Didn't we have a thread recently where people insisted this sort of thing just doesn't happen?
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Old 06-19-12, 12:08 AM
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It will be interesting to see just how outraged the DA gets over this case and if the do any significant news interviews.
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I am glad the boys survived.
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Old 06-19-12, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by B. Carfree View Post
...Didn't we have a thread recently where people insisted this sort of thing just doesn't happen?
Which sort of thing? Someone trying to run over bicyclists? Or the police actually arresting the driver?

I work only a few blocks from where this took place. San Mateo is a pretty quiet town, so an incident like this would attract quite a bit of attention. I'm not surprised that witnesses came forward and it got investigated promptly.

The San Mateo police are surprisingly bike-friendly. They actually came out with two squad cars and paramedics one morning when my boyfriend crashed because someone using a leaf-blower next to the road blew debris into his eyes. (He wasn't seriously injured.)

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It will be interesting to see just how outraged the DA gets over this case and if the do any significant news interviews.
Are you thinking of the recent case in San Francisco where the cyclist killed a pedestrian? San Mateo is in a different county with a different DA, so you won't be able to compare one person's response to two situations.
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Old 06-19-12, 07:39 AM
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This happened twice about 2 years ago outside of Chicago, one woman in Naperville got 48 days (with possibility of 24 days with good behavior) and the other (2 men in a car in Chicago) got 10 days suspended sentence I believe, mainly because one was on parole already.
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Originally Posted by chrisb71 View Post
This happened twice about 2 years ago outside of Chicago, one woman in Naperville got 48 days (with possibility of 24 days with good behavior) and the other (2 men in a car in Chicago) got 10 days suspended sentence I believe, mainly because one was on parole already.
Pretty sweet deals for attempted murder.
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They should be charged with attempted murder!!!
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
They should be charged with attempted murder!!!
What do you want to bet the charges don't even amount to littering...

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charged against the cyclists...
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They were charged with assault with a deadly weapon & conspiracy. These are serious charges. DA might not be able to convict on attempted murder charges.
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
What do you want to bet the charges don't even amount to littering...

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charged against the cyclists...
The article did say "The men were booked on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy."
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People get booked on what the DA thinks he can get a conviction on, not necessarily what they actually did. In order to get a murder conviction, I think they'd have to prove intent to kill and premeditation, not an act of passion. Getting both of those proved to a jury would probably be difficult, because there will be guaranteed to be a few people on the jury that have probably been pissed off at a cyclist in the past and has harbored violent thoughts about it. It's nearly a sure bet that everyone on the jury would be a car driver, while statistically it's very likely that nobody on the jury has even considered riding a bicycle on a busy street.
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Originally Posted by ro-monster View Post
Which sort of thing? Someone trying to run over bicyclists? Or the police actually arresting the driver?
Sorry for the ambiguity. I was referring to the subject of motorists purposely attempting to run over cyclists.
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Old 06-19-12, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
People get booked on what the DA thinks he can get a conviction on, not necessarily what they actually did. In order to get a murder conviction, I think they'd have to prove intent to kill and premeditation, not an act of passion. Getting both of those proved to a jury would probably be difficult, because there will be guaranteed to be a few people on the jury that have probably been pissed off at a cyclist in the past and has harbored violent thoughts about it. It's nearly a sure bet that everyone on the jury would be a car driver, while statistically it's very likely that nobody on the jury has even considered riding a bicycle on a busy street.
Actually there is one thing that could create a major shift. The guys in hte truck drove on the sidewalk. That both removes the last doubts about intent.

If it goes to a jury the boys age may make a difference. if under 12 of so there may be plenty of jurors who want to string up the driver.

Oh and witnesses. DAs have to deal with proof. Often with no uninvolved parties that is all but impossible.
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They should be charged with child molestation and attempted murder.
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