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Old 09-21-12, 12:13 PM
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Maybe the guy was just trying to give them a taste of riding amongst the team cars, media hacks and crazy fans in the TDF?
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Old 09-21-12, 12:19 PM
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^ Then the guys in the video would do well in such conditions
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Old 09-21-12, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nerys View Post
lets stay civilized lets stay logical and lets not argue amongst each other.
Isn't that exactly what A&S is for?
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Old 09-21-12, 02:01 PM
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No the response I got was from either people who did not read what I said or who decided I said something I did not regardless of what I actually said.

I did not want people seeing this thread about this meatbag and thinking anyone using the horn is like him. My post stands. Not one word needs to be changed.
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Old 09-21-12, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nerys View Post
We are adults here. we are reasonably intelligent human beings. How about ALL OF US act like it.
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Old 09-21-12, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nerys View Post
Oh that was VERY clear. no need to reiterate that.

The horn is not a emergency tool. the horn is a communication tool that should not be abused.

I only mentioned that so riders don't think an otherwise friendly toot hey I am going to pass you just want you to be aware is not one of these wankers in the video.
And no need to state the obvious either. Despite appearances, we're not all numbskulls...
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Old 09-21-12, 03:20 PM
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only takes one.
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Old 09-21-12, 03:22 PM
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if there is only one numbscull, you can put them on your ignore list and be done
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Old 09-21-12, 03:32 PM
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Not here OUT THEIR :-) come on man this aint hard. I don't want people flipping out on or calling the cops on drivers just being friendly and safe. You know how this crap can get out of control.
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Old 09-21-12, 06:20 PM
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I doubt anyone is going to call the cops because of a beep, although I have to say that people should know it's rude by now
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Old 09-21-12, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
if there is only one numbscull, you can put them on your ignore list and be done
The mobile app doesn't use/recognize the ignore list.

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Old 09-21-12, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
I doubt anyone is going to call the cops because of a beep, although I have to say that people should know it's rude by now
Agreed, and as has been pointed out in another thread involving horn honking it can have the opposite effect, particularly on newbie riders.
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Old 09-22-12, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by myrridin View Post
Neither cyclist nor motorist are allowed to legally cross a double yellow line. Also given Colorado's three foot passing law, it is not clear whether the motorist could LEGALLY pass the cyclists--at least from the short video it doesn't look like he had a three foot margin even with the bikes riding the white line... That lane looks to be a standard 12' lane, which is not really suitable for a car(particularly an SUV) and a bicycle to occupy the same lane with a mandatory three foot passing law.
You really do suck up on the anti-cycling claims. Pretty much all the 3 (or 4) feet bicycle passing laws include the provision that motorist may cross a double yellow to pass cyclist when it is safe to do so, if such law is not already included in the slow moving vehicle laws.
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Old 09-22-12, 12:50 PM
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Plus the 3ft passing laws are not really meant to be randomly enforced. the primary purpose for such laws is that if an officer's see's a driver pass a cyclist in an "AGGRESSIVE" but otherwise not normally illegal manner if he is within 3ft he now has a law on the book to legitimately "charge" the driver with.

Besides a ****** bag cop I just don't see an officer giving drivers a problem who politely and safely pass a cyclist whether they cross the double yellow or not.

the law is meant to give them leverage against aggressive drivers and is not intended to be strictly enforced blindly.
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Old 09-22-12, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nerys View Post
the law is meant to give them leverage against aggressive drivers and is not intended to be strictly enforced blindly.
Well, no law is meant to be enforced blindly, and I'm not even sure what being enforced randomly means in this context.

Around here, the law really was just passed to make the cycling community feel that something was being done.

But to tell just how carefully Austin's 3' passing law is actually enforced ... it passed a few years ago, and I think they're still under ten total citations issued for it.

For comparison, there's also a relatively new law that requires slowing down greatly or giving emergency vehicles (usually police officers) a full lane of space when passing ... APD has just announced yet another explicit crackdown on it where they'll be using pairs of officers -- one to park on the side of the road with their flashers on, and another to give tickets to those who don't obey the law when passing this vehicle.
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Originally Posted by dougmc View Post
For comparison, there's also a relatively new law that requires slowing down greatly or giving emergency vehicles (usually police officers) a full lane of space when passing ... APD has just announced yet another explicit crackdown on it where they'll be using pairs of officers -- one to park on the side of the road with their flashers on, and another to give tickets to those who don't obey the law when passing this vehicle.
Modern version of a speed trap.
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Old 09-24-12, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
Maybe the guy was just trying to give them a taste of riding amongst the team cars, media hacks and crazy fans in the TDF?
That brings back images of Jan ullrich’s wipe out caused by the rain or his team car blasting the horn behind him in a TT against Lance (year?)
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Old 09-25-12, 02:48 PM
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So... Since this guy thinks vehicles on the road going slower than him shouldn't be there, and feels honking is the appropriate action... When I find myself behind this guy on my 750cc powered 2 wheels, I should do the same thing to him? He is clearly a slower vehicle.
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Old 10-02-12, 10:10 PM
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Just for grins I contacted the Colorado DOT to find out what their policy was with respect to the double yellow line and 3 foot law.

Originally Posted by Betsy Jacobsen
Yes, a motorist may cross a double yellow line in order to provide a bicyclist the necessary 3 foot passing space IF the oncoming traffic is clear. If it is not clear, the motorist is required to stay behind the bicyclist until it is safe to pass.

Because it takes much less time to pass a bicyclist (or two) than it does a motorized vehicle, motorists are allowed to cross the double yellow in order to pass the bicyclist.

I hope this is helpful.

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The man should have passed them and laid off the horn.
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Old 10-02-12, 10:51 PM
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well to be fair even you were not sure till you contacted DOT. either way he handled it VERY VERY wrong and I am glad the law caught up to him before his agitation escalated to hurting someone or causing someone to get hurt.
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Old 10-03-12, 09:12 AM
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Because it takes much less time to pass a bicyclist (or two) than it does a motorized vehicle, motorists are allowed to cross the double yellow in order to pass the bicyclist.
I feel the same way on my motorcycle. Double yellow lines are just a suggestion.
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Old 10-03-12, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dougmc View Post
For comparison, there's also a relatively new law that requires slowing down greatly or giving emergency vehicles (usually police officers) a full lane of space when passing ... APD has just announced yet another explicit crackdown on it where they'll be using pairs of officers -- one to park on the side of the road with their flashers on, and another to give tickets to those who don't obey the law when passing this vehicle.
TN and MS have the same law. Either move over or slow down to 20 MPH under the speed limit. Most people move over. I certainly agree with the law, as I've seen a number of videos of officers on a traffic stop getting nailed by some idiot passing too close/fast.
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Old 10-04-12, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Notso_fastLane View Post
I feel the same way on my motorcycle. Double yellow lines are just a suggestion.
Many times I wish my motorcycles weren't old 50 hp models....
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Old 10-04-12, 12:16 PM
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hehe thats more horsepower than my car :-) 49hp 3cylinder geo metro :-)
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Heh, my sportbike is pushing 115hp, and weighs in at under 400 lbs with a full tank of gas. She can get ya in trouble real quick.....
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