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Old 05-21-13, 11:30 AM   #101
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Originally Posted by Tel0004 View Post

I think for a lot of there MUP's making them one way, and requiring people to keep to the right except to pass would solve a lot of problems.
Agreed. But these same people drive, and don't keep right on the roads either.
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As ILTB said, clueless instructions. Simply wrong.

Unless, of course, those shoulders are reserved for contra-flow peds, are ADAAG-compliant, well-maintained, etc. (I get grumpy when branches scratch my head). I guess that could work. But you'd still need better signage.

Originally Posted by wrpeterson View Post
This is the scheme on my MUP - usually not followed by the clueless walkers...

"What if we fail to stop the erosion of cities by automobiles?. . . In that case, we Americans will hardly need to ponder a mystery that has troubled men for millennia: What is the purpose of life? For us, the answer will be clear, established and for all practical purposes indisputable: The purpose of life is to produce and consume automobiles."

~Jane Jacobs, The Death and Life of Great American Cities
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Old 05-21-13, 05:33 PM   #103
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
How can we hold out any hope for world peace if folks can't even get along while enjoying a walk, run, or bike in the park?

Grow up
, this is a park path intended for leisure enjoyment of the outdoors, not a thruway. It's intended to be shared, so treat those you pass as you would a neighbor or friend, with the degree of courtesy needed to get along.

BTW- please take this as an "if the shoe fits...." kind of comment, But I'm always surprised and disappointed by the whiny, bellyaching, put upon tone I find in many of the posts on the advocacy forum. Many sound like spoiled children crying because another child borrowed your toys.

I'm not talking about the debate pro or con about segregated bike lanes, but about how possessive some folks are about them. God forbid someone leave an obstacle in them, or do anything to get in your way. If there were a pothole, you'd simply swing around it without a word of complaint, but if a human should be there you want him drawn and quartered.

As a cyclist, I fight hard to disabuse motorists of the notion that roadways are exclusively theirs, yet on this forum I see theis same motorist attitude except on 2 wheels.
I think what feeds into that is piss poor infrastructure. Even in places that are fairly cyclists friendly a combination of a lack of direct routes and high speed roads often without a bike lane means that cycle commuters in particular get funneled down MUPs. The town I live in is a perfect example. The only reason there is a trail that actually goes somewhere is because it was an abandoned rail line.
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