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The issue is to get drivers to shift the balance back to attentive driving, and adjust what they do to conditions.
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Another possibilty is for the persistent worrywarts of A&S to stop (or at least get a handle on) their worrying about every dang "another thing" that shows up in the news, whether it be a survey, a bold prediction by some guy on the internet, a new shiny object, an astrology chart, or the phases of the moon.
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Another possibilty is for the persistent worrywarts of A&S to stop (or at least get a handle on) their worrying about every dang "another thing" that shows up in the news, whether it be a survey, a bold prediction by some guy on the internet, a new shiny object, an astrology chart, or the phases of the moon.
If you can point us to a moonphase thread, that could be fun, too.
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Nor do I believe that everything that is a possible or conceivable risk, no matter how slight, necessitates the hysterical sky is falling attitude from the A&S Henny Pennys as demonstrated on this thread.
OMG! A new gizmo is mentioned in the news which isn't even available; let all us fearful cyclists cry and moan Woe is Us! Just wait until Apple announces anything new. The howling from the Henny Pennys should reach a record level on A&S.
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Another possibilty is for the persistent worrywarts of A&S to stop (or at least get a handle on) their worrying about every dang "another thing" that shows up in the news, whether it be a survey, a bold prediction by some guy on the internet, a new shiny object, an astrology chart, or the phases of the moon.
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Google Glass is an almost perfect example of a gadget that ought to scare the hell out of everyone who uses the public ways. If you think that's silly, it can only be because you don't understand how distractions caused by similar, but less-intrusive, gadgets have increased risk for everyone.
As for the new gizmo not being available, don't get too comfy. Google doesn't spend this kind of money and promote this level of hype on products that they kill. They'll be everywhere before you know it.
As for the likelihood that the sky is falling, you might want to check with some folks at Oxford before you dismiss the possibility.
A team of mathematicians, philosophers and scientists at Oxford University’s Future of Humanity Institute say there is ever-increasing evidence that the human race’s reliance on technology could, in fact, lead to its demise.
The group has a forthcoming paper entitled “Existential Risk Prevention as Global Priority,” arguing that we face a real risk to our own existence. And not a slow demise in some distant, theoretical future. The end could come as soon as the next century.
https://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...233025693.html
The group has a forthcoming paper entitled “Existential Risk Prevention as Global Priority,” arguing that we face a real risk to our own existence. And not a slow demise in some distant, theoretical future. The end could come as soon as the next century.
https://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...233025693.html
The original paper is here:
https://www.existential-risk.org/concept.html
Don't be so sure Henny Penny is wrong.
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I drove a friend's car with a pretty complete HUD, and the nicest thing I found about it was having the speed and time right there on the windshield instead of having to look down at the tiny clock on the radio when approaching a school zone with only posted times instead of flashing lights. OTOH, it didn't seem nearly as handy until I got back in my own car and didn't have that stuff.
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The original paper is here:
https://www.existential-risk.org/concept.html
Don't be so sure Henny Penny is wrong.
https://www.existential-risk.org/concept.html
Don't be so sure Henny Penny is wrong.
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I drove a friend's car with a pretty complete HUD, and the nicest thing I found about it was having the speed and time right there on the windshield instead of having to look down at the tiny clock on the radio when approaching a school zone with only posted times instead of flashing lights. OTOH, it didn't seem nearly as handy until I got back in my own car and didn't have that stuff.
Better yet, ban those distracting posted speed limit signs and all the distracting trouble they cause for drivers who must devote 100% of every neuron, 100% of the time to the road ahead and can't spare the loss of attention to look at those distracting signs.
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I'm not worried about those who text while driving/walking along railroad tracks. Do you?
Nor do I believe that everything that is a possible or conceivable risk, no matter how slight, necessitates the hysterical sky is falling attitude from the A&S Henny Pennys as demonstrated on this thread.
OMG! A new gizmo is mentioned in the news which isn't even available; let all us fearful cyclists cry and moan Woe is Us! Just wait until Apple announces anything new. The howling from the Henny Pennys should reach a record level on A&S.
Nor do I believe that everything that is a possible or conceivable risk, no matter how slight, necessitates the hysterical sky is falling attitude from the A&S Henny Pennys as demonstrated on this thread.
OMG! A new gizmo is mentioned in the news which isn't even available; let all us fearful cyclists cry and moan Woe is Us! Just wait until Apple announces anything new. The howling from the Henny Pennys should reach a record level on A&S.
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https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/226604
from the article:
from the article:
Getting directions. I thought turn-by-turn navigation would be more dangerous with Glass since I'd be driving with something in my field of vision. In practice, I took my eyes off the road much less than if I were using an external GPS or smartphone.
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I actually thought that this thread was going to be about bikers using Google Glasses to record bad motorists.
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Seriously, it's fascinating work. Worth slogging through the deliberately-dense prose.
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Gee, that's reassuring. How often did he take his brain off the road? Did he notice?
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https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/226604
from the article:Getting directions. I thought turn-by-turn navigation would be more dangerous with Glass since I'd be driving with something in my field of vision. In practice, I took my eyes off the road much less than if I were using an external GPS or smartphone.
from the article:Getting directions. I thought turn-by-turn navigation would be more dangerous with Glass since I'd be driving with something in my field of vision. In practice, I took my eyes off the road much less than if I were using an external GPS or smartphone.
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While I see potential problems with this new technology, what about it's benefits for cyclists. Instead of having to wear a constantly running camera on your helmet to hopefully capture assaults, harrassment, or the details of a collision, something like this could be built into your sunglasses so all you have to do is give a voice command or wink to photograph or record the incident. No more need for a big Garmin or smart phone clamped to your handlebars to track your route and riding data. How about a voice command to dial 911 and send your GPS location if you are injured or in danger?
The current version looks a little clunky (but no worse than a GoPro stuck to the top of your helmet) but I'm sure in time the computer will be smaller and less conspicuous with an on-the-lense visual display.
Sure there are going to be problems and some people will misuse the device, but people driving/riding with their head up their . . . is nothing new, long before texting, cell phones, etc. I saw drivers eating, putting on makeup (remember driver's side vanity mirrors?), reading paper maps or newspapers, trying to rewind messed up cassettes (you youngun's ask your folks), and whatever else they could think of. When the Walkman came out in the 1980s it was going to be the death of us all as skateboarders became the bane of humanity and roadway safety. As usual it isn't the technology that is the problem, it's the wetware running it.
The current version looks a little clunky (but no worse than a GoPro stuck to the top of your helmet) but I'm sure in time the computer will be smaller and less conspicuous with an on-the-lense visual display.
Sure there are going to be problems and some people will misuse the device, but people driving/riding with their head up their . . . is nothing new, long before texting, cell phones, etc. I saw drivers eating, putting on makeup (remember driver's side vanity mirrors?), reading paper maps or newspapers, trying to rewind messed up cassettes (you youngun's ask your folks), and whatever else they could think of. When the Walkman came out in the 1980s it was going to be the death of us all as skateboarders became the bane of humanity and roadway safety. As usual it isn't the technology that is the problem, it's the wetware running it.
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A black hole, or a jar of sterile pebbles, is neither a democracy nor an efficient labor market, and we can see that this is so without having to make any normative judgment; yet there may be other objects that cannot be classified as instances or non-instances of these concepts without taking a stand (at least implicitly) on some normative issue.
And I absolutely love the figures:
No units, but it does have cartoon lightning bolts. And a rocket! Very clearly, this is serious science.
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Here is another bicycling thing for motorists to worry about if, not get hysterical (from laffing ):
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/...ing-sunglasses
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/...ing-sunglasses
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Here is another bicycling thing for motorists to worry about if, not get hysterical (from laffing ):
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/...ing-sunglasses
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/...ing-sunglasses
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A black hole, or a jar of sterile pebbles, is neither a democracy nor an efficient labor market, and we can see that this is so without having to make any normative judgment; yet there may be other objects that cannot be classified as instances or non-instances of these concepts without taking a stand (at least implicitly) on some normative issue.
So, building on that understanding, we can parse the quote and determine that it means no value judgment is required to determine that, e.g., a box of rocks, isn't a labor market (it self-evidently is not), but that such judgment might be required to determine whether or not (again, e.g.) prison chain gangs are elements of such a market.
Et cetera.
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Here is another bicycling thing for motorists to worry about if, not get hysterical (from laffing ):
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/...ing-sunglasses
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/...ing-sunglasses
That's how we ended up with a built environment that looks like this:
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~Jane Jacobs, The Death and Life of Great American Cities
"What if we fail to stop the erosion of cities by automobiles?. . . In that case, we Americans will hardly need to ponder a mystery that has troubled men for millennia: What is the purpose of life? For us, the answer will be clear, established and for all practical purposes indisputable: The purpose of life is to produce and consume automobiles."
~Jane Jacobs, The Death and Life of Great American Cities
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If it controls navigation, phone, radio/stereo and all the other crap that people currently look away from the road to do via HUD and voice commands, I don't see the problem.
Military jets and some cars already use heads-up displays precisely because they allow you to see data without taking your eyes off the road/sky.
People already screw with stuff while riding, and it kills a lot of people - mainly when they take their eyes off the road.
Military jets and some cars already use heads-up displays precisely because they allow you to see data without taking your eyes off the road/sky.
People already screw with stuff while riding, and it kills a lot of people - mainly when they take their eyes off the road.
People are already doing everything from eating, to shaving, to checking GPS and radio, to surfing their laptops (saw that one last week). Getting more of that in front of them and controlled by things like voice commands might help. Obviously it isn't optimal, and we'd love to just have everyone sit and pay attention in silence while they drive, but I'd also like a million dollars. Working on the premise I'll get a million dollars isn't productive.
Can't say for sure, but who knows? Someone needs to do a study now comparing Google Glass users with cellphone users with non-users. It wouldn't floor me if Google Glass users beat out smart phone users.
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What we need to worry about is that humans aren't smart enough to stop themselves from building and using any technology they can contrive, regardless of the cost and consequences, and regardless of the benefits or lack thereof.
That's how we ended up with a built environment that looks like this:
That's how we ended up with a built environment that looks like this:
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ILTB is not a rational person to talk with about the dangerous of cellphones or other potential distractions while driving.
Update: Repost of post #5 in the link above
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