Originally Posted by HawkOwl
(Post 15869558)
Resurrected:
When this came by the first time I was bothered by something but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Now I think I know so here is the question: Does age have anything to do with what a person Should Do about a dangerous driver? Personally, all the dangerous acts I've seen older drivers do I also seen with younger drivers. In fact, I'd say older drivers get much more attention from their family than young dangerous drivers. Family keeps an eye on the elders and tries to stop them from driving if they perceive the elder is dangerous. On the other hand numerous times a dangerous driver, for example drunk or impaired on other drug, is allowed to drive with no comment by the family. Seems to me a person should do the same thing for all dangerous drivers; get them off the road. |
I suggest any man under 25 be driven around by his girlfriend/SO.
I was. No DUI's in my past. Besides, it gives you a chance to tune in the station, and roll a proper bone. |
It's such a shame some elderly have to be this way. I truly hope the OP finds a way of convincing his parents to hang up the keys.
Both dad and FIL dies suddenly in their early 70s and both mom and MIL voluntarily gave up their driving privileges so it was not an issue. It made things so much easier when they did this, the added responsibility of transporting them was difficult at times but the end result was much better than what it potentially could have been. |
Grandfather was getting dementia, his reflexes had gone but her refused to stop driving.
My Mother and Grandmother had been trying for years. One day we were all sitting in the living room. I tossed a ball at my grandfather, it hit him square in the head "What the hell was that?" he yells. "A kid you just ran over" was my reply. ...wasn't nice but it did work. |
This ix not a new subjet. In fact there are periodic "exposes" on the subject. Nothing new in this case.
To me level of difficulty convincing a family member, any family member, to not drive has more to do with family relationships than anything else. Good relationships and taking care of the member's needs in a humanitarian way will succeed. In this way age is but one factor. Disparaging comments about a person's infirmities unless supported by factual data that shows they can't drive not only show the poster's biases, actions based on them are illegal. The real problem that deserves our full attention is dangerous drivers. I've been told that as many as 1/3 of all drivers on the road are unlicensed. Most have no insurance. But, people in general have no problem allowing these people to endanger others. These folks are prima facia dangerous because most have lost their license by their reckless actions. As long as we, as a society tolerate this cyclists, walkers and others will be injured and killed. |
Originally Posted by HawkOwl
(Post 15874847)
To me level of difficulty convincing a family member, any family member, to not drive has more to do with family relationships than anything else. Good relationships and taking care of the member's needs in a humanitarian way will succeed. In this way age is but one factor.
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Originally Posted by HawkOwl
(Post 15874847)
This ix not a new subjet. In fact there are periodic "exposes" on the subject. Nothing new in this case.
To me level of difficulty convincing a family member, any family member, to not drive has more to do with family relationships than anything else. Good relationships and taking care of the member's needs in a humanitarian way will succeed. In this way age is but one factor. Disparaging comments about a person's infirmities unless supported by factual data that shows they can't drive not only show the poster's biases, actions based on them are illegal. The real problem that deserves our full attention is dangerous drivers. I've been told that as many as 1/3 of all drivers on the road are unlicensed. Most have no insurance. But, people in general have no problem allowing these people to endanger others. These folks are prima facia dangerous because most have lost their license by their reckless actions. As long as we, as a society tolerate this cyclists, walkers and others will be injured and killed. Drunk drivers are a real problem. Sleep deprived drivers are a problem. Emotionally disturbed drivers are a problem. Aggressive drivers are a problem. Narcissistic drivers are a problem. None of that changes the fact that age brings its own impairment to driving and increases the danger. Stomping one's feet and insisting that people who's vision and other abilities are too diminished to safely drive should be allowed to continue to drive until we provide them with a chauffeur is to say we should have no standard for road usage other than the convenience of the most narcissistic amongst us. I do so wish the eldest amongst us would finally grow up. Pointing out that some other child is getting two desserts, or driving dangerously, does not mean we should ignore this growing problem. |
I'm grown up now,I have responsibilities.....Making sure my parents are OK is one of them.....If I left it to the State,there would be a trail of death behind the car before something would change.
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Originally Posted by DX-MAN
(Post 15871716)
I actually see something here I agree with; the trouble is, as possible as it may be to PROVE incapacity in the elderly, good luck with the younger set. As of now, STUPID is not an incapacity (as much as I wish it WAS....), nor is RECKLESS.
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Originally Posted by HawkOwl
(Post 15871396)
Re: The elders driving across country. In the 50+ section lots of stories about older people and what the can do. Physical ability to ambulate has very little to do with safe driving. That people think it does illustrates the biases and bigotry disabled people have to put up with daily.
Right now on the road between Anchorage and Fairbanks Alaska there are a group of hand cyclists doing a race . Bet they drive too. Safe driving isn't limited to your own driving practices, but encompasses the ability to react appropriately in unexpected situations; many disabled, elderly, and able-bodied drivers are capable of this, but not all are. A driver who mistakes a gas pedal for the brake, and not being able to react quickly enough to correct the error, is not a safe driver. A driver unable to avoid what should be near accidents, is not a safe driver. Having the ability to operate a car doesn't qualify someone as a safe driver; if that's the criteria, then as long as you can reach the pedals... Those hand-cyclists, contrary to your belief, are ambulatory...they're not bedridden. Try telling them they're not ambulatory because they're unable to walk, I'm sure you'll get an earful. |
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