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Old 05-02-14, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CB HI
Non-cops get their name released by the cops and put in the newspaper on a regular basis, often the worst possible mug shot is also released, but cops names get special protection. I am not against the cops, I just do not think they should be given special privilege over others.
I hate it when that happens. Which way do we want it?
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
I hate it when that happens. Which way do we want it?
As long as the treatment is equal, I am OK with either way.
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Old 05-02-14, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by raqball
I am sure the police department will find out who the officer was and that officer should be swiftly fired and criminally charged.. No doubt about it!
I can't decide if you're sarcastic or naively optimistic.
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Old 05-03-14, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CB HI
As long as the treatment is equal, I am OK with either way.
Euqality doesnt exist never has never will.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
Used to be injusticeeverhwere.com (?), but I believe it got folded into or became: PoliceMisconduct.net | The Cato Institute's National Police Misconduct Reporting Project

Every day, there's usually a dozen+ cases of police misconduct reported.
Thanks, I guess I have some reading to do. And, I don't disagree that there is police misconduct, I just don't think the range of crimes you quoted is correct....but I'll read and learn.

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You misrepresent the actual guidelines: A defendant is considered innocent within the eyes of our legal system until proven guilty.

Nothing in that requirement actually makes the defendant innocent before or after trial. If the defendant committed the crime, they are not innocent regardless of the court finding the defendant guilty or not guilty.
I agree except the defendant actually could be innocent.....but that is not a finding in a court or the standard of proof.
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Originally Posted by Mvcrash
I agree except the defendant actually could be innocent.....but that is not a finding in a court or the standard of proof.
Clearly, if the defendant did NOT commit the crime the defendant is innocent regardless of the court finding, that happens as well.

But I think you missed my qualifier in my prior post "If the defendant committed the crime, ".
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Originally Posted by beerbaron2002
Euqality doesnt exist never has never will.
True...
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
It seems to me that we're forgetting that the cop is innocent. Innocent until proven guilty, unless I missed it we haven't had a trial yet.
If people were truely presumed innocent they wouldn't be locked up until court or pay a heafty bail bond. One that is usually way more than anyone can afford.
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And i just recently found out some police agencies have IQ MAX LIMITS on potential hires..........put that in your pipe and smoke it
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Originally Posted by beerbaron2002
If people were truely presumed innocent they wouldn't be locked up until court or pay a heafty bail bond. One that is usually way more than anyone can afford.
Because they are a flight risk, because prosecutors do not presume innocence, and sometimes because money is involved (which trumps just about everything else in our world). That's why it's more symbolic than otherwise. Should we disregard the principle just because it is symbolic, and because the system often does?
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
Because they are a flight risk, because prosecutors do not presume innocence, and sometimes because money is involved (which trumps just about everything else in our world). That's why it's more symbolic than otherwise. Should we disregard the principle just because it is symbolic, and because the system often does?
There wouldn't be a presumption of flight if they are presumed innocent. Prosecutors are supposed to work with just facts which is never the case they are motivated by politics and career advancement to get as many convictions as possible that's why they charge multiple crimes to get the defendant to take a plea bargain its a conviction on their record.

As for locking people up before court if they are found innocent it still ruins their life because they will lose their job probably have huge family issues and the fact that they were arrested will show up on every future traffic stop causing the police to harass them because of a past arrest.
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I have no idea where raqball's utopia where cops aren't above the law but it isn't where I live. Our cops in Rhode Island have the magic Police Officer's Bill Of Rights in which crimes are swept under the rug without the courts being involved.
My personal experience with the local police has been to have internal affairs cover up a felony against me by a drunk wife beater who is on his way to a fat pension bloated by detail and overtime pay. This same drunk left a bar (where someone tried to get his keys and was threatened) **** faced and proceeded to hit and run a Navy PD cruiser and public bus and run, they had his plate number and couldn't "find him"until he conveniently sobered up, they knew he was drunk because they interviewed the bartender less than an hour after the crash. No charges still on the force and still getting that fat pension.
All police in my city are guilty of protecting the criminal acts of their own. Don't get me started on the incompetent cop who responded to me getting hit by a road rager.
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This happened once: In Cambridge, heading into Boston, in front of the Museum of Science, we were stopped in traffic at a light, headed straight through to Rt 1/93 onramp. Cop right in front of us, lane to our right is clear, right-turn (Storrow Dr.) only lane. Cop suddenly pulls right, exits stopped traffic and speeds off to the right, no lights, no siren. ...car which had been coming up the previously clear right turn lane jams on brakes in an emergency stop to avoid blowing into the police car; car in back rear ends her. Cop did not stop, maybe didn't even notice, was the cause of the accident.
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Originally Posted by mconlonx
This happened once: In Cambridge, heading into Boston, in front of the Museum of Science, we were stopped in traffic at a light, headed straight through to Rt 1/93 onramp. Cop right in front of us, lane to our right is clear, right-turn (Storrow Dr.) only lane. Cop suddenly pulls right, exits stopped traffic and speeds off to the right, no lights, no siren. ...car which had been coming up the previously clear right turn lane jams on brakes in an emergency stop to avoid blowing into the police car; car in back rear ends her. Cop did not stop, maybe didn't even notice, was the cause of the accident.
I'm usually happy to blame cops for stuff, but I think the person who rear-ended the lady who stopped was more at fault in your example. He or she was following too closely or not paying attention.
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When cops are willing to leave their badge at home, and not mention that they are on the job, or retired......... then, I will believe they treat everyone the same. But, that does n ot happen in the real world!

When they stop another cop, it's a back slappin reunion...................
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