dorsalis

hello, here is a pictorial:

https://tuktok.com/loghop/

i dont understand what he is doing. can someone please explain? it seems like he is going pretty slow...propping his front wheel on the log and then jumping over it? (lift force via clipless, and arms/body motion)

is that right?

zx108

it looks like he is using the top of the log as a sort of ramp. and just pulling a bunny hop over it.

cryptid01

Manual into the log and place your front wheel on the top center of the log. Then lunge explosively forward and try to place your rear wheel on the same spot your front wheel just left (on top of the log). Keep your weight back so you don't go OTB when the front wheel hits the ground, then just roll it out. Once you get the hang of it, your front tire will lightly tap the log and your rear will barely graze it.

If you're not ready for the hop yet, you can instead wheelie into the log while timing your crank revolution so your lead pedal contacts the log at the same time as your chain/bashring. You'll essentially be standing on the log. Shift your weight forward to maintain momentum, and continue pedaling. As you pull your trailing foot up, you'll ride right over the log.

Both of these manuevers are accomplishable without clipless pedals - it's the weight transfer that's key.

dorsalis

so much work and skill..., i think i'd try bunny hopping over it haha

cryptid01

It is a lot of work. I guess you could always just get off and carry your bike.

dorsalis

getting off your bike? never!!! i'd rather face death itself than get off my bike.

dorsalis

when doing the lunge motion.... is it similar to the one when you're doing a bunny hop?

dorsalis

how do u do a rear wheelie and coast?

weighting then lifting the rear wheel makes sense but how do u keep it lifted over long distances? does it involve going downhill and holding onto the front break?

Chad4yew

How much speed is important? I generally go slow because logs = fun in the dirt for me. Between steps 5, 6 and 7 is where I'm holding difficulty. I looks like the rider is doing this at a good pace.

When I lift up my front wheel onto the log, and then jump, I usually come down on the log at my chain ring/pedals. I've bent a few chainrings this way and I just can't get the hang of it.

I'm thinking my speed is wrong, but maybe I just dan't have the coordination yet to do it.

Maelstrom 

And thats why I have a bashgaurd

mcoine

interesting.. it seems like he is almost doing a quick endo on the log to help bring the rear wheel up.. what would happen if you tap the front brake as the front wheel hits?

madbiker555

Thanks to Mael's photoshop help :



It looks like he's just planting his front wheel on the log (maybe, or it's just barely touching), then timing it so that he lifts the rear tire just as the front is starting to slide off.

Chad4yew

It would be better if I could get my bike over in one smooth motion. I guess I have to give it a lot more practice.

trek1

Practice is the key but I found once I was doing it that I couldn't think to hard on how I was able to go over some pretty good sized logs. My local trail has quite a few so you have no choice but to get used to them but it has to be a smooth all in one transition when attempting it. Keep trying it will come and you will be doing it all the time.

PSUfan09

i have a feeling that if i attempted this i would severely injure myself, not to mention provide something to laugh at for my friends

pathdoc

I hate logs.

Drevil

Gastro described the technique well.

I was going probably at a fast walking speed in that pictorial. If I went faster, I'd probably hit the log a little lower (Maybe 11 o'clock instead of 12) to help pop the front wheel up. Also, when you're going faster, timing and wheel placement is more crucial. Try a smaller log first, and go a little slower.

I did a quickie video where I was dragging the chainring across the top. This log was slippery and wet, and if I tried it by slamming the front wheel on it, I likely would have washed out and broken some teeth:
https://tuktok.com/vids/lazylogover4.wmv

Yup, a lot of DHers use platform pedals, but it takes better technique and stronger forearms, both of which I am lacking.

Drevil

I guess it depends how much front brake is applied, but I probably would have stalled, slammed my back wheel, the saddle would have hit my ass, and I would have endoed

Drevil

I've been a devoted bigring eschewer, bashguard wearer since '97.

dorsalis

w00t thank you for hte video.

https://bicycling.com/article/0,3253,...ategory_id=364

i gotta practice these skillzzzz

when ur hopping around on ur bike in a stationary position (in the vid and in the vid where u hop the stairs).... are u just able to do that due to the fact that ur using clip-ins?

hanshananigan

I've been having difficulty with good, controlled wheelies and hops with my full suspension bike (1.5" in back w/ lockout, Duke in front set at 100mm travel).

Any suggestions for doing this stuff with a full suspension bike?

dorsalis

i'm practicing these skills on my trek 3700 and uh, its so hard to wheelie and coast...


what is a good setup on starting off? high seat/low seat? am i suppose to be sitting down while i wheelie or am i suppose to be off my seat?

gattm99

I get over some decent sized logs, probably smaller then that, by popping on top of them pttign wieght on the handlebar and just letting my rear wheel bash into them. Of course my chain ring plows them alot but it seems to have no bad effect.

I was trying to actually jump one this weekend, I lifted my bike up higher then I anticipated, the problem was I jumped and brought the bike up, but not under me more of beside me, so I crashed with gusto.

Heres something I was wondering. Whats the point of a bash guard, won't a big chain ring work just as well, sure it may get bent and not work, but you can't shift onto a bash guard at all. Of course with a bash guard I can see less potential for injury.

enduro

Get an XC bashguard and you keep all 3 rings.

dirtyamerican

Just bunnyhop the sucker.