Dropbars crossing the top of wheels?
03-11-09, 06:41 AM
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Dropbars crossing the top of wheels?
As you can see, the drops cross the horizontal line as to where the top of the wheels are. Is it ok to have the bars set like ones in the picture above?
It's got a -6 degree stem in place. I plan to get a -10 degree stem to make it even lower. Is it safe to do so? Thanks
03-11-09, 06:44 AM
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yes, do it.
you're the first person I've seen asking this question.
you're the first person I've seen asking this question.
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03-11-09, 06:46 AM
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I don't see why it would matter?
03-11-09, 07:00 AM
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It's not UCI legal, but why do you care?
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Unless your bars turn independently of the wheel, then it should be fine.
03-11-09, 08:04 AM
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i don't think it's UCI legal to have your bars turn independently of the wheel, or advised under any code! level with or lower than the wheel is probably OK.
03-11-09, 08:16 AM
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I think this rule is intended for the handlebars of TT bikes, but I'm not sure how the UCI applies it to mass start bikes.
My bars are pretty damn low, but not that low. Maybe 1/2" off the top of the tire, should you draw a line between the drops and measure down to the tire. I burned my hand on someone's rear wheel last season, leaning in a corner.
My bars are pretty damn low, but not that low. Maybe 1/2" off the top of the tire, should you draw a line between the drops and measure down to the tire. I burned my hand on someone's rear wheel last season, leaning in a corner.
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I think it's legal. I can't find anything about it in the rulebook. The only ruling that comes close to applying is that the front of your handlebars can't go past a vertical line drawn from your front hub.
I wonder if your hoods count as part of your handlebar; the end of my hoods definitely goes in front of my hub...
Here's the rules I was using.
https://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadin.../ucirules.html
Originally Posted by uci
In other races, the handlebar type shall be "classic" and no part of the handlebar may protrude forward of a vertical line passing through the front wheel axle
Here's the rules I was using.
https://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadin.../ucirules.html
03-11-09, 08:25 AM
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Interesting, my bars definitely go forward of my hub and the bottom of my drops is right at the top of my wheel.
03-11-09, 08:28 AM
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Rule 1.3.013 is what is used for road races, I believe....
The overall length [forward projection] of the handlebars may not exceed a limit set 15 cm forward of a vertical line passing through the front wheel spindle.
The overall length [forward projection] of the handlebars may not exceed a limit set 15 cm forward of a vertical line passing through the front wheel spindle.
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1.3.013 .....The overall length [forward projection] of the handlebars may not exceed a limit set 15 cm forward of a vertical line passing through the front wheel spindle.
I think your ok.
I think your ok.
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I think you are shooting a wide lens up close, where I was shooting a long lens and gettign as far back as possible....
If you look at your rear bar, it (barely) crosses neither line.
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Alright thanks for giving the green light. The reason I asked is because I went through pics of the bikes posted here and every single on of them didn't have the bottom of the bars protrude below the top of the wheels. So I figured that doing so would be wrong.
I wish I could have more drop though. I removed all the spacers and still feel that I could go lower. Sucks being only 164cm and stuck with an XS bike..
I wish I could have more drop though. I removed all the spacers and still feel that I could go lower. Sucks being only 164cm and stuck with an XS bike..
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Alright thanks for giving the green light. The reason I asked is because I went through pics of the bikes posted here and every single on of them didn't have the bottom of the bars protrude below the top of the wheels. So I figured that doing so would be wrong.
I wish I could have more drop though. I removed all the spacers and still feel that I could go lower. Sucks being only 164cm and stuck with an XS bike..
I wish I could have more drop though. I removed all the spacers and still feel that I could go lower. Sucks being only 164cm and stuck with an XS bike..
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there's even -20 stems available. they're generally for MTB, so the logo might be upside down.
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03-11-09, 09:23 AM
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Keep in mind pictures can be deceiving. If you can see the far side of the bar the lens has distorted something, whether you're centered on the BB (normal) or you have some wide angle lens.
Having the bars low is nice, you can reach over with your thumb to wipe the tire off. Mine is similar in set up but not as low.
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Having the bars low is nice, you can reach over with your thumb to wipe the tire off. Mine is similar in set up but not as low.
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well, you're smaller so you don't need to hunch over as far to get the same sort of wind resistance.
I mean, the aim is to get a flat back, as opposed to tilting downward, isn't it?
I mean, the aim is to get a flat back, as opposed to tilting downward, isn't it?
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Alright thanks for giving the green light. The reason I asked is because I went through pics of the bikes posted here and every single on of them didn't have the bottom of the bars protrude below the top of the wheels. So I figured that doing so would be wrong.
I wish I could have more drop though. I removed all the spacers and still feel that I could go lower. Sucks being only 164cm and stuck with an XS bike..
I wish I could have more drop though. I removed all the spacers and still feel that I could go lower. Sucks being only 164cm and stuck with an XS bike..
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Yea but wouldn't it present a huge change in reach too? I already got the reach dialed in on my current set-up, but just wanted a little more drop. I figured that a -10 would do that without messing with my reach too much.
I commute on my 26'-wheeled mountain bike, does that count? 
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The UCI is so confusing and vague in their writing. Is English not their first language or something?