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Old 06-22-24, 02:22 PM
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Worksman or something better?

Hi guys. This is my first post. I am looking for a well made cruiser bike. I like American made if possible. I also prefer to buy once, cry once.

I am 5'10" around 200lbs. Looking for quality and lower maintenance. Maybe a 3 or 7 speed. Fenders, baskets, comfort.

I kinda like the Worksman newsboy and 2600. How are they? Anything better out there? Comfortable ride? upgradable parts?

I've been looking around youtube and stuff, but there isnt much out there.

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I have a workman folder bike.

Nice bike, a bit heavy, steel, built like a tank.

Use it to get from where I park to where I work. Full luggage so I can transport my computer and lunch.

Pretty sharp looking bicycle. I used to commute on NASA designed carbon fiber wonders and never got a second look. I get a "Nice Bike" all the time even though I feel like Pee Wee Herman. Its a folder that fits in my Rav4 and gets me from my parking spot a half mile to work.

Not sure if I should be embarrassed or flaunt the dweeb aspect.

I think my next upgrade will be poker cards in the spokes and plastic streamers on the handlebars. still thinking.

bike is built like a tank, Huffy level engineering. Laughs at 12 inch potholes. weighs a ton.

Not sure if I love her or hate her but it works and it works good.

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Workman's bicycles are designed for a 250 maintenance man to ride around a factory with as many tools and parts as he can design a way to carry on it
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Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure how they ride. I don't know if there are better options out there? I don't have any bike shops that sell them near me for a test ride. Would I be better off with a lighter cruiser?
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It's a cruiser! As long as you procure a quality bike (Trek, Specialized, Worksman, Giant) you'll be happy IMO.
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I'm not even sure what options to go with. Worksman has so many and I'm not to sure which ones are more important than the others. I'm 99 percent sure of going with a 3 speed, front and rear racks, and fenders. I'm not even sure what frame, 2600 or INB. I'm still in the VERY beginning of my research. I really appreciate all the comments and opinions.
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Cranky again!

PIcked mine up for 50 bucks off facebook marketplace. My needs are not demanding, just wanted to put some paniers and trunk bag on to carry my stuff that I gotta carry for work in the office. It is comfortable. Not particularly fast but worth unfolding and packing for the ride from the parking lot to the office.

For what it is worth, I picked up another folder, a Dahon aluminum, that I use when I go on trips to expand my range. Folds down more compact, not able to carry as much, and a heck of a lot lighter.

When I go to a beach town, I will take the Dahon every time over the Workman. Dehon not as comfortable but more convenient with the 7 speed vs the 3 speed. I suppose I could work at the Dahon to make it more comfortable, but I only use it for beach cruising, bar hopping, and exploring new trails.

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Originally Posted by Johnny H
I'm not even sure what options to go with. Worksman has so many and I'm not to sure which ones are more important than the others. I'm 99 percent sure of going with a 3 speed, front and rear racks, and fenders. I'm not even sure what frame, 2600 or INB. I'm still in the VERY beginning of my research. I really appreciate all the comments and opinions.
If you go Worksman I'd recommend the 7 speed IGH. 3 speeds are good but limiting. It is built for industrial conditions, so it's a lifetime cruiser. It will also be expensive because of this. There are other, less expensive choices available, but IMO Worksman IS the BEST. And they're from my home state NY.
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2000 to 2008 I worked in a factory that made transfer cases I was assigned a workmans choice trike I was at the time 330 (, I've lost 40#) toolbox tools and supplies was easily another 80 . I have gotten on the bike then had coworkers set a 125 pound pump on the tool box. Then rode it a quarter mile to pump repair. The bike I was assigned was made in 1968 and had seen use like that from the day I was out on the factory floor. We had over 100 bikes/Trikes chances of you breaking it or wearing it out are slim
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@plumberroy, That is kinda why I wouldn't mind spending a few extra bucks for the Worksman. One of my concerns is that they might of cheaped out with the newer bikes. Looks like they have plastic fenders and black only forks. Hopefully the new ones are still tanks.

tds101 I didn't know they made a 7 speed. Does that have a derailer? Are they as bulletproof as a 3 speed? I am really new to this. lol.

crankythunder Thanks for the input. That is another one of my concerns, the weight. I am thinking the folding bikes are a little lighter than the INB or 2600. I think they weigh in at 50+ pounds.

Can I still hook up modern lights. I think they go in the rear hub somehow? And can I put a brooks seat on it? Not sure if they fit?
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When you get 200 tradesman together things happen for a while there was a workmans trike around the factory with duellys until a big boss noticed it 😁
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@plumberroy, That is kinda why I wouldn't mind spending a few extra bucks for the Worksman. One of my concerns is that they might of cheaped out with the newer bikes. Looks like they have plastic fenders and black only forks. Hopefully the new ones are still tanks.

tds101 I didn't know they made a 7 speed. Does that have a derailer? Are they as bulletproof as a 3 speed? I am really new to this. lol.

crankythunder Thanks for the input. That is another one of my concerns, the weight. I am thinking the folding bikes are a little lighter than the INB or 2600. I think they weigh in at 50+ pounds.

Can I still hook up modern lights. I think they go in the rear hub somehow? And can I put a brooks seat on it? Not sure if they fit?
If you look through the customization settings there's an option for a three speed or seven speed upgrade. Both are IGH (internal geared huds), neither require a derailleur. Quite well built Shimano Nexus hubs, and considered to be workhorses. These bikes are, as stated multiple times, industrial use cruiser bikes. All are designed to last for years to come. You get what you pay for with Worksman bicycles.

Edit: plastic fenders don't rattle or rust, and NO! you can't hook up a light to the rear hub. I don't know where you got that idea from. Use a "modern" rechargeable LED bike light, and a flashing rear red light. If you "LOOK AT THE AVAILABLE OPTIONS FOR CUSTOMIZATION" there's lights that they sell. How about calling them. They're a well established company. They'll answer any questions about the bikes that you may have.



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tds101 Thanks for all the info. I'm trying to get some info together so I don't sound like a complete NUBE when I call them. lol. That 7 speed hub might be the way to go.

I thought there was some kind of light that was powered by the wheel turning. I don't know where I thought I saw that. LOL. some kind of always on light. Good point on the fenders. I'm thinking all blacked out, or race red and chrome. Kinda leaning race red with chrome lately.

Any thoughts/opinions on the 44 tooth sprocket vs the smaller 30 something one?

plumberroy LOL. yeah they probably had some bad a$$ stuff added on. Bosses always ruin the fun. Lol.

I am really leaning Worksman since I've been talking with you guys.
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Originally Posted by Johnny H
tds101 Thanks for all the info. I'm trying to get some info together so I don't sound like a complete NUBE when I call them. lol. That 7 speed hub might be the way to go.

I thought there was some kind of light that was powered by the wheel turning. I don't know where I thought I saw that. LOL. some kind of always on light. Good point on the fenders. I'm thinking all blacked out, or race red and chrome. Kinda leaning race red with chrome lately.

Any thoughts/opinions on the 44 tooth sprocket vs the smaller 30 something one?

plumberroy LOL. yeah they probably had some bad a$$ stuff added on. Bosses always ruin the fun. Lol.

I am really leaning Worksman since I've been talking with you guys.
Play around with Sheldon Brown's Gear Inch Calculator to get an idea of the gear inches and the speed reached in each gear... https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gear-calc.html
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Understand these are not light weight bikes they are made for getting around industrial facilities. We only had a few bikes most were trikes. They all had 36 tooth on the front because they were loaded up with tools
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I have an old Schwinn Heavy Duty with a Bendix coaster brake. It is a comfortable bike with 2.125" tires. Some time ago I picked up an Electra which was a close copy of the old Schwinn's and the Heavy Duti. It used CromeMoly instead of the plain low carbon of the Schwinn on the frame. You can feel the weight difference. It was an improvement on the old Schwinn. All the parts were good quality as well. It had a coaster brake. When I had to make a decision on which to keep, I kept the Schwinn. For me it was just sentimental. It was designed and made in the US of A as well.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is that Electra/Trek builds good cruisers. And you may be able to find a dealer to take one for a spin. One big thing on the newer Electra bikes, they went "all in" on the Cranks Forward design or what they call Flat Foot Technology. Some people like it, some don't. The idea is that the crank position being moved forward allows you to sit on the seat and reach the road with you feet, something that you can't do with a proper seat height on a normal bike. Then when you start pedaling your legs are a proper distance from the cranks to pedal efficiently. You'd have to try it to see if it is for you.

Here is a link to an Electra Cruiser with a 7 speed internally geared hub.

This is a Designed in the USA and manufactured in China bikes.

I also like what I see from Brooklyn Bicycle Co. I'm a little confused about their models since they seem to have a step through foot forward cruiser, but not a step-over cruiser. I also see the Driggs which looks nice and sturdy, but it only seems to be available with a 3-speed. Perhaps they deem 3 speeds to be enough. They do have 7 speeds on other bikes including cruisers. Driggs bike

You also might want to talk to them about what you are looking for because, I think there are holes in their online offerings and they seem to have a nice line up of practical bikes. The have their phone number on the website. It might be worth a try. Like Electra, Brooklyn Bicycle Co. bikes are designed in the USA and built in China.

I don't think you need steel rims such as what Worksman offers. My opinion is that a good alloy rim with 36 spokes will be plenty strong.

I am not trying to steer you away from Worksman. I just want to present some other options @Johnny H .
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I have an old Schwinn Heavy Duty with a Bendix coaster brake. It is a comfortable bike with 2.125" tires. Some time ago I picked up an Electra which was a close copy of the old Schwinn's and the Heavy Duti. It used CromeMoly instead of the plain low carbon of the Schwinn on the frame. You can feel the weight difference. It was an improvement on the old Schwinn. All the parts were good quality as well. It had a coaster brake. When I had to make a decision on which to keep, I kept the Schwinn. For me it was just sentimental. It was designed and made in the US of A as well.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is that Electra/Trek builds good cruisers. And you may be able to find a dealer to take one for a spin. One big thing on the newer Electra bikes, they went "all in" on the Cranks Forward design or what they call Flat Foot Technology. Some people like it, some don't. The idea is that the crank position being moved forward allows you to sit on the seat and reach the road with you feet, something that you can't do with a proper seat height on a normal bike. Then when you start pedaling your legs are a proper distance from the cranks to pedal efficiently. You'd have to try it to see if it is for you.

Here is a link to an Electra Cruiser with a 7 speed internally geared hub.

This is a Designed in the USA and manufactured in China bikes.

I also like what I see from Brooklyn Bicycle Co. I'm a little confused about their models since they seem to have a step through foot forward cruiser, but not a step-over cruiser. I also see the Driggs which looks nice and sturdy, but it only seems to be available with a 3-speed. Perhaps they deem 3 speeds to be enough. They do have 7 speeds on other bikes including cruisers. Driggs bike

You also might want to talk to them about what you are looking for because, I think there are holes in their online offerings and they seem to have a nice line up of practical bikes. The have their phone number on the website. It might be worth a try. Like Electra, Brooklyn Bicycle Co. bikes are designed in the USA and built in China.

I don't think you need steel rims such as what Worksman offers. My opinion is that a good alloy rim with 36 spokes will be plenty strong.

I am not trying to steer you away from Worksman. I just want to present some other options @Johnny H .
I have an Electra loft 1 that is no longer available, that is like a lot. They still make the loft in a 7 speed
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Understand these are not light weight bikes they are made for getting around industrial facilities. We only had a few bikes most were trikes. They all had 36 tooth on the front because they were loaded up with tools
So that means the 44 tooth sprocket might be a little harder to get started, but would go a little faster. The 36 tooth would pedal easier but not as fast? I'm thinking the 44 tooth paired with the 7 speed hub might be the most versatile with a higher speed potential?


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Thanks for the link tds. I tried to make sense of the chart and couldn't figure it out. Looks like a great plug and play chart if I knew ANYTHING about bicycles. LOL
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Velo Mule Thanks for the additional options and the link which makes things so much more easier. That Driggs bike looks sweet. I like the fact that it is made from chromoly steel. I was looking at Detroit Bikes and they were advertising hand made chromoly steel frames. It looks like their website changed recently, and I think they might be made over seas? Not really sure. And the Electra is a really nice bike also. I kinda had it narrowed down to the Electra and Worksman, and now maybe the Driggs.
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The thing is that you can probably find an Electra/Trek dealer, and take the bike for a spin. But a test ride on a Worksman can be difficult unless you are lucky enough to know someone that has one. And Brooklyn Cycle, I don't know where their dealers are. It is hard to compare without riding them.

I like buying used, but I'm an engineer, former bike mechanic and constant tinkerer. Undoing the bad stuff someone did on their bike is no problem even part of my relaxation, but unless you fit the same criteria, new can be better option. Especially with a Nexus 7 speed hub.
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I like the concept of a Worksman. Also intrigued by the State Klunkers.
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Velo Mule tds101 I called Worksman today. They have no dealers anywhere close to the Cleveland area. They said I would have to order one through them. They have a 10-12 week wait right now.

Asked about a red and chrome bike. They said they could paint the black forks red, or they had springer front forks. They are pretty sure they have chrome fenders in stock but they are not sure about the chain guards. The chainguard could be tricky because it has a certain bolt pattern. I would have a hard time finding one at a local bike shop.

An all black bike would be no problem at all.

Anyone have experience with the springer front end. Is it noticeable/worth it? I am thinking they are more show than anything?
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stevel610 Klunkers are cool. maybe when I get some experience, I would like to build one. Thanks for the link.
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I always liked the look of the springer fork with it's beehive springs. When I got to ride one, I was a little underwhelmed. They do soften the ride of the front end. But I didn't think it was worth the extra money and weight. On this issue there are going to be a lot of varying opinions. The one I rode was a Schwinn. When I got my chance to put my Schwinn Heavy Duti together, I used a King Sting fork. It is just a unicrown BMX style fork.

Schwinn Heavy Duti with nostalgia Schwinn decals:


The Electra Cruiser that I talked about above, as you can see it is similar to the Schwinn Heavy Duti above:

Unfortunately, Electra dropped this style frame in favor of their Flat Foot frames.
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