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Old 04-04-15, 04:32 PM
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What do you use to preserve your tires?

I don't get to ride my bike as often as I'd like. As a result my tires have been installed for over a year because the tread is still good. However I've noticed that the tires have slowly deteriorated. A thin even layer has been flaking off the surface of my tires. If I rub my gloves over the surface to clean sticking debris I have to clean my gloves of a red dust from the flaking. I have Michelin Pro4 Endurance tires on now which I didn't think would deteriorate like this. I've never had this problems like this with any of my tires while living in Missouri but now that I live in Hawaii I'm guessing that the environment isn't very kind to materials exposed to the elements. Is it the salty environment out here causing the damage to my tires? Is it some sort of dry rot? Or did I just happen to buy a crappy set of tires that I shouldn't expect to last more than a few of months? Anyone else have this problem with this brand/model of tire? Most importantly is there anything I can coat the tires with to prevent this kind of damage?

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Keep tires out of sunlight and away from sources of ozone, ideally away from oxygen too, but that is pretty hard to do.
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Looks unusually excessive to me for only a year. Where are these stored? Do they happen to be near a source of ozone, like a brushed motor, electrical equipment that employs high voltage (e.g. copiers and laser printers) or in the sun?
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I keep mine in a cool, dark environmentally controlled room set at 55F

Sounds like yours were in a hot garage exposed to the sun?
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Old 04-04-15, 05:56 PM
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The bike is actually stored in the house, second floor near a window turned rubber side up. So it's an excessive amount of exposure to sunlight? Should I consider rubbing tires with some sort of UV protectant?
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I tell my customers that high performance tires are only designed to work best for a season/year as far as the compound goes. Wear is another variable not directly controlled by the manufacturer. So a high end tire might not have a lot of miles but also might shows cracks during a greater number of miles year two.

I use Michelin Endurance4 tires but in black and find a couple of years on the rear is at most my expectation. This is about 1500 miles total (for any one rear tire) usually. I ride them on three different bikes. They do cut a touch more easily then other brands I've used as well as wear down faster. But they do have a nice ride feel and seem grippy enough for me.

What isn't known is the amount of time between actual manufacture and their being mounted for use. Tires can sit for many months on the few different shelves between the manufacturer and the rider and might see heat that we'll never know about. While it is a common feeling that a product life starts when it is bought and installed the reality is that some products do suffer wear/degradation before their sale. Batteries are another example of this. Andy.
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That can't be normal. We have the same tires on our bikes, stored in the house, (red pro 4 endurance) and black pro 4 service course, older Bontrager race lites all over a year old looking as vital as new. No flaking, cracking, or other signs of detoriation. Same with the Vittoria's on my other bike in the shed for 3 years.
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What do you use to preserve your tires?



how about AmorAll?!
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I've had excellent service from Michelin Pro Race series tires (1,2,3,4). The Pro Race 4 Service Course version have been the best so far. I have a Pro Race 3 on the front of one bike with well over 5000 miles. On the rear I get anywhere from 1500 to 3500 miles, depending on road conditions. These have all been 700 X 23 size. I've not tried the Endurance model but I would expect better mileage from it. In my opinion the Pro Race series tires have improved through the years and their prices have increased considerably through the years.
When I store tires I put them in a dark closet inside our climate controlled house.

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Old 04-04-15, 08:58 PM
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If it helps I bought these tires through BikeTiresDirect.com during October of 2013. I've got maybe 200-300 miles on these so far. I'd be afraid to put Armorall on em. I keep thinking about sliding all over the street. I've seen how oily and slick everything feels on car interiors. Any other suggestions?

I like the ride of these. They feel fairly solid in the turns to me. I like to ride with about 90-95psi front/100-105 rear. I only weigh about 115lbs/5'4".

A couple of years ago this wouldn't have mattered to me when I was commuting and riding all over town . I was replacing tires almost twice a year because of wear and tear. I was using racing tires because I was always trying to beat my personal best to work.

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Never had your problem; we just wear our tires out.
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Old 04-04-15, 09:13 PM
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Never had your problem; we just wear our tires out.
uh-huh, sure.
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What do you use to preserve your tires?



how about AmorAll?!
Just don"t get any on the rims unless you have discs.
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I wouldn't try to "condition" them with anything. It's not going to resolve the current cracking anyway.

Might be worth a call to Michelin though. They can probably go over the mfgr date with you (I see a 1012 but I don't know if that's 10/12 or nothing at all). There might be a known issue with them drying out & you could get a free set of tires out of the deal. (who knows).

Otherwise, I'd just buy a new set of tires just to be safe.

P.S. If you're after a red-wall tire like your current set and just don't want to put out the money for another set of PR4's, you'd be hard pressed beat this deal -----> Duro Hypersonic Road Tire > Components > Wheels, Tires and Tubes > Tires | Jenson USA

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I've put miles on tires that were 25+ years old and also seen rubber start to crack in tires I believe were only a couple years old. It depends on storage conditions and probably manufacturing conditions. I'd consider this a fluke and buy a new set of tires. If you have the same problem in a year it's time to start a more rigorous investigation.

You said you just moved to Hawaii. Ask some local riders if they've experienced the same thing.
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I am in to classic cars as well as bikes. Do not use that Armor All, it is not even advertised as a preservative, it just makes them look black/new. Use what antique car buffs and motorhome people (cause they never drive enough to wear out their tires) use which is a product made to extend the life of tire sidewalls, reduce ozone effects, Protectant 303. You can get it everywhere, like Walmart, in the RV section. I would use it only on sidewalls.

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Suomi Nokian's Black Utility tires take care of themselves..
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I am in to classic cars as well as bikes. Do not use that Armor All, it is not even advertised as a preservative, it just makes them look black/new. Use what antique car buffs and motorhome people (cause they never drive enough to wear out their tires) use which is a product made to extend the life of tire sidewalls, reduce ozone effects, Protectant 303. You can get it everywhere, like Walmart, in the RV section. I would use it only on sidewalls.
It is Aerospace 303 Protectant, and aint cheap! I bought a gallon for like $50. I'd also make sure I washed it off, as best I could, before use.
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I sell that stuff at a paddlesports shop I work in. We use it on kayak hulls and drysuit gaskets for the same reason. If I remember right a windex size bottle is $16
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Originally Posted by le mans View Post
What do you use to preserve your tires?



how about AmorAll?!
Not recommended for the rubber part either as it can make them slick as heck...
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It is Aerospace 303 Protectant, and aint cheap! I bought a gallon for like $50. I'd also make sure I washed it off, as best I could, before use.
Sorry I should have mentioned that I only use it on bike sidewalls and not on the tread which might come in contact with the road as I would worry about traction.
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Not recommended for the rubber part either as it can make them slick as heck...
huh? you'd stick it on the sidewalls only, common sense, like on car tyres, where it tends to dry out and crack up

armorall protects rubber/plastic against uv rays........................................................ and looks pretty


not that i used it for bike tyres, was just a thought

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It looks like the cracks are more severe in the red part of the tire. Consider Jobst Brandt's comments on carbon black and tires: Tire color (Jobst Brandt).
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Originally Posted by easyupbug View Post
I am in to classic cars as well as bikes. Do not use that Armor All, it is not even advertised as a preservative, it just makes them look black/new. Use what antique car buffs and motorhome people (cause they never drive enough to wear out their tires) use which is a product made to extend the life of tire sidewalls, reduce ozone effects, Protectant 303. You can get it everywhere, like Walmart, in the RV section. I would use it only on sidewalls.
+1 Couldn't remember the name...works very well to control sidewall issues. regards, ben
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I'm not big on adding chemicals to the tires. Keep them dry and dark, then replace them if they go bad.

I dug out Mom's old Motobecane last week. The tires are about 20 years old, or perhaps even older. They seemed fine for rides around the neighborhood.
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