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Campag bottom bracket - 111mm or 115mm

Old 05-17-15, 03:52 PM
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Campag bottom bracket - 111mm or 115mm

I'm currently restoring a Peugeot 531 pro frame that I bought in 1989 and raced on as a teenager. I have gone for Campag Record and Croce d'aune parts from the early 90s. So far it coming together nicely. The chain set I have is a Croce d'aune (it is stamped 93 is a box on the cranks). The frame is English thread and 68mm wide at the bottom bracket. It is currently away for respraying and to get the gap between the two rear drop outs increased to 130mm so as to take an 8 speed cassette.

My query is what bottom bracket do I use? My local bike shop owner (who is very good on such matters I have to say) reckons a 115mm spindle is the best option. Most comments on the web suggest a 111mm spindle. A 111mm spindle seems quite easy to get (Record, Croce d'aune etc), yet a 115 mm appears to be older. From looking at ebay I see mainly the Campagnolo Nuovo / Super Record 115mm bottom bracket - will an English threaded Campagnolo Nuovo / Super Record version work?
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Old 05-17-15, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuota73 View Post
I'm currently restoring a Peugeot 531 pro frame that I bought in 1989 and raced on as a teenager. I have gone for Campag Record and Croce d'aune parts from the early 90s. So far it coming together nicely. The chain set I have is a Croce d'aune (it is stamped 93 is a box on the cranks). The frame is English thread and 68mm wide at the bottom bracket. It is currently away for respraying and to get the gap between the two rear drop outs increased to 130mm so as to take an 8 speed cassette.

My query is what bottom bracket do I use? My local bike shop owner (who is very good on such matters I have to say) reckons a 115mm spindle is the best option. Most comments on the web suggest a 111mm spindle. A 111mm spindle seems quite easy to get (Record, Croce d'aune etc), yet a 115 mm appears to be older. From looking at ebay I see mainly the Campagnolo Nuovo / Super Record 115mm bottom bracket - will an English threaded Campagnolo Nuovo / Super Record version work?
I built a similar vintage Campy with a 113 spindle as a triple, and it works fine. I would say the 111 is your best bet.
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Old 05-17-15, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuota73 View Post
I'm currently restoring a Peugeot 531 pro frame that I bought in 1989 and raced on as a teenager. I have gone for Campag Record and Croce d'aune parts from the early 90s. So far it coming together nicely. The chain set I have is a Croce d'aune (it is stamped 93 is a box on the cranks). The frame is English thread and 68mm wide at the bottom bracket. It is currently away for respraying and to get the gap between the two rear drop outs increased to 130mm so as to take an 8 speed cassette.

My query is what bottom bracket do I use? My local bike shop owner (who is very good on such matters I have to say) reckons a 115mm spindle is the best option. Most comments on the web suggest a 111mm spindle. A 111mm spindle seems quite easy to get (Record, Croce d'aune etc), yet a 115 mm appears to be older. From looking at ebay I see mainly the Campagnolo Nuovo / Super Record 115mm bottom bracket - will an English threaded Campagnolo Nuovo / Super Record version work?
Original spec was 111 symmetrical.

Be careful with the tapers, though - Campag tapers of the era were proprietory - deeper than ISO although the start-square and angle dimensions were the same - I can't recall if CdA cranks were affected but we have seen instances with Pista cranks where if a more modern BB axle is used, the back of the crank comes up against the scallop at the base of the taper - carry on tightening and the effect after a few rides is a crack ... so if you can get an original 90's BB in 111, it might be a good plan ...
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Old 05-19-15, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gfk_velo View Post
Original spec was 111 symmetrical.

Be careful with the tapers, though - Campag tapers of the era were proprietory - deeper than ISO although the start-square and angle dimensions were the same - I can't recall if CdA cranks were affected but we have seen instances with Pista cranks where if a more modern BB axle is used, the back of the crank comes up against the scallop at the base of the taper - carry on tightening and the effect after a few rides is a crack ... so if you can get an original 90's BB in 111, it might be a good plan ...
Thanks for those comments. 111mm is what I'm going for. Will a BBE 11 CAMPAGNOLO CARTRIDGE 111mm work ? - see Hilary Stone Bottom Brackets English
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Very late rreply - sorry - yes, should do.
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