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5,000 miles on my road bike. What might need replaced?

Old 05-17-15, 05:15 PM
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5,000 miles on my road bike. What might need replaced?

I've put roughly 5,000 miles on my Ridley Fenix since I bought it.

I've replaced the handlebar tape, tires and the chain.

Is there anything else likely to need replaced at this point? Any other maintenance I should be doing other than the usual cleaning, lubing, pumping the tires, cleaning the braking surface of my rims, and checking all the bolts are tight?
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If you don't ride in the rain/wet, then normal maint is all that's needed.

I put 6500 miles on my last bike and as you, chain and tires are all that needed replacement.
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I do ride in the rain. I've seen a little rust in some of the handlebar bolts that I've ignored, haven't noticed anything else.
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Under normal conditions, the only true wearing parts on a bike are the chain and sprockets, and the tires. Slow wear items include the brake shoes and the cables. All the rest should be good for many thousands of miles and can be dealt with as the need arises.

Some things are more time than miles related including bearing lubrication and rust. Folks who ride all weather/all season, need more preventative maintenance, and should probably do an overhaul annually after the worst of the winter is over. If you're not an all weather rider, you can probably go 3 years or about 15,000 miles without a bearing overhaul (or longer).
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Originally Posted by Buffalo Buff View Post
I do ride in the rain. I've seen a little rust in some of the handlebar bolts that I've ignored, haven't noticed anything else.
How are your cables?
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2 View Post
How are your cables?
+1 also check for fraying inside of the shifters, it is MUCH easier to change out wires before they break. I tend to change out wires and housings a lot since they are relatively inexpensive, the performance degradation is gradual and the improvement with new ones can be quite striking.
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Originally Posted by Buffalo Buff View Post
I've put roughly 5,000 miles on my Ridley Fenix since I bought it.

I've replaced the handlebar tape, tires and the chain.

Is there anything else likely to need replaced at this point? Any other maintenance I should be doing other than the usual cleaning, lubing, pumping the tires, cleaning the braking surface of my rims, and checking all the bolts are tight?
And of those, the chain is probably not necessary at that low a mileage, and the bar tape needing replacement that soon is possibly indicative of a lousy tape job in the first place.

I would say that in 5000 miles, only the tires would be expected to need replacement
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Most likely chain, tires, cables, possibly brake pads.
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Cables are doing good, thanks for the reminder to check them!

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And of those, the chain is probably not necessary at that low a mileage, and the bar tape needing replacement that soon is possibly indicative of a lousy tape job in the first place.

I would say that in 5000 miles, only the tires would be expected to need replacement
The tape was for cosmetic reasons, forgot to mention that.

I did tour on this bike with ~25lbs on gear through the mountains. When I took my bike back to the local shop afterwards to have them give it a look, two different employes said my chain was stretched out, and that if I didn't replace it I could eventually damage my cogs.

I hadn't noticed any issues with my chain but the shop was pretty adamant about me changing it to prevent damage.

Don't know if it matters but I also weigh 220lbs.
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A well maintained chain ridden only in good conditions can last 3k-4k miles, in rain and muck can be as low as 2k miles or less.
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If rim brakes, check for rim wear, though they should typically go at least 10-15k miles before reaching wear limits; more if only ridden in dry conditions, less if often ridden in wet gritty conditions.
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Originally Posted by Buffalo Buff View Post
I've put roughly 5,000 miles on my Ridley Fenix since I bought it.

I've replaced the handlebar tape, tires and the chain.

Is there anything else likely to need replaced at this point?
You might need a new rear shift cable and housing - I get 2500 and 4000 miles out of mine respectively, although before the sharp 90 degree bend in shifters to accommodate hoods level with bar top plus under-tape routing I got 4500 miles out of cables, and unlined shift housing lasted almost indefinitely. Other people get tens of thousands of miles.

Since they don't fail suddenly you can wait until you have signs of wear. When shifts to smaller cogs get sluggish and require less tension you're starting to fray the cable, have worn a groove in the housing lining, or bent the hanger/derailleur cage. Regardless you need to investigate the situation and fix it.

The other cables and housings last for years - the brake cables don''t go around sharp bends in the lever so they don't fatigue from flexing, brake housings are less likely to be lined, and they don't see as much use.

You replaced your front tire prematurely and may have replaced the rear before needed to. Many rear tires can last 5000 miles, and the front hardly wears so the right protocol is moving the rear to the trash, front to the rear where a flat is less likely to cause a crash, and installing a new tire on the front.

This is a GP4000S (not made for durability) which wore out after 5257 miles:

Tires aren't done until casing cords show (note the fraying, and where the diagonal cords are about to show) or the flat rate becomes unacceptable due to thin rubber, although that doesn't seem to happen to me with modern tires having flat protection layers using materials like Kevlar.
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Originally Posted by Buffalo Buff View Post
I did tour on this bike with ~25lbs on gear through the mountains. When I took my bike back to the local shop afterwards to have them give it a look, two different employes said my chain was stretched out, and that if I didn't replace it I could eventually damage my cogs.
Measure it with a ruler when you lubricate it. Shift to big ring x small cog, put tension on the lower chain run, and measure between the same part (like 9 o'clock) of pins which should be 11 or 12" apart.

1/16" of elongation (0.5% at 12", and 0.55% at 11" which is close enough) is time for replacement.

Don't know if it matters but I also weigh 220lbs.
That will reduce chain and tire life.
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Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt View Post
You replaced your front tire prematurely and may have replaced the rear before needed to. Many rear tires can last 5000 miles, and the front hardly wears so the right protocol is moving the rear to the trash, front to the rear where a flat is less likely to cause a crash, and installing a new tire on the front.

This is a GP4000S (not made for durability) which wore out after 5257 miles:

Tires aren't done until casing cords show (note the fraying, and where the diagonal cords are about to show) or the flat rate becomes unacceptable due to thin rubber, although that doesn't seem to happen to me with modern tires having flat protection layers using materials like Kevlar.
You are correct about the front tire. I saved my old tires for backup because I knew they still had some life in them. The rear was pretty flat in the center and I knew it'd be worn out before much longer. I mainly bought the new tires because I thought the continental gatorskins would help prevent flats on my tour. Definitely plan to use my old front tire again some day.

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Measure it with a ruler when you lubricate it. Shift to big ring x small cog, put tension on the lower chain run, and measure between the same part (like 9 o'clock) of pins which should be 11 or 12" apart.

1/16" of elongation (0.5% at 12", and 0.55% at 11" which is close enough) is time for replacement.



That will reduce chain and tire life.
Sorry, but I'm a noob and everything you wrote after talking about the big ring and cog makes no sense to me. What's a chain run? Also I'm not sure what you're telling me to measure. Sorry for my ignorance.

Figured my weight will do that, but unfortunately being a 6'4 powerlifter doesn't always mix well with cycling
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Sorry, but I'm a noob and everything you wrote after talking about the big ring and cog makes no sense to me. What's a chain run? Also I'm not sure what you're telling me to measure. Sorry for my ignorance.
Measure like this (from https://janheine.wordpress.com/page/2/). With a 12" ruler you can eyeball how far past the end the pin lies, or just look around the 11" mark for 1/16" of elongation:



A little more tension on the bottom derailleur pulley is good.
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Than you for clarifying that for me!
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Also grip the brakes and try to see if the front fork is loose at all. You can also check by simply gripping the fork and frame and try to wiggle it. Check your hubs to see that they are turning smoothly but have no apparent play. When your chain is off, spin the cranks and wiggle the crank arms in and out to check those bearings.
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Do YOU, as a New Yorker, ride your road bike in the rain?
I live in the southwest, where so many immigrate.
They complain where/when rain comes. Even more of (rock n roll) earthquakes.

The rain be great to ride in; just gotta watch for the extreme majority of motor vehicle drivers who don't know how to drive in such weather.
Ever ridden in thunderstorms? I have. I love watching that lightning.
Cyclists here, even the ones who move here from the eastern U.S. -- are sissies to drive in such.
Ever driven during hail?
I done all this with Campagnolo.

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Do YOU, as a New Yorker, ride your road bike in the rain?
I live in the southwest, where so many immigrate.
They complain where/when rain comes. Even more of (rock n roll) earthquakes.

The rain be great to ride in; just gotta watch for the extreme majority of motor vehicle drivers who don't know how to drive in such weather.
Ever ridden in thunderstorms? I have. I love watching that lightning.
Cyclists here, even the ones who move here from the eastern U.S. -- are sissies to drive in such.
Ever driven during hail?
I done all this with Campagnolo.
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