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Old 08-01-15, 06:26 AM
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Another gosh darn tire question

I have a Cannondale CaadX with 700X35 Sammy slicks on it. Factory tires. I do 99.9% paved road riding, I more or less use it as a road bike, but I am a big guy so a traditional road bike wheel set I didn't want to build....ANYWAYS the tires on the bike I am tearing up pretty quickly. I am going to change them out this winter to a more road type tire for better wear. Would I gain any thing by going to a 32 or even maybe a 28 tire?
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A less comfortable ride and higher chance for pinch flats in exchange for a marginal improvement in aerodynamic profile.
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I would imagine that with the same weight distributed over a smaller area smaller tires will get "torn up" more quickly. Are they sufficiently inflated?
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Assuming other things being equal, you'd get less wear with a skinnier tire.
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the slick , one assumes, uses a softer rubber compound , (go-fast cornering grip)

there are harder rubber compounds in some more utilitarian tires

I used a Suomi Nokian (Finnish) A 10 , and the tread wear is very Long.. same rubber as used in their other, studded, tires.

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700x35 is a big tire for road riding. You might try 32mm if you are 300lbs or less. I've been riding the Michelin Pilot Sport (in 35mm) and they wear quite well. Consult a tire pressure chart before making your decision. Here is a handy calculator and chart. Problem Solvers | Optimal Bike Tire Pressure
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first thanks all. The tires I have now are wearing fast because they are gravel type tires and I am using them on pavement just not made for that and I am larger. That is why I need a more road type tire. According the chart below my pressure is good. So I don't think its an issue. I just think its tire selection. Just not sure if the 3mm difference in the two tires will make a noticeable difference.

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700x35 is a big tire for road riding. You might try 32mm if you are 300lbs or less. I've been riding the Michelin Pilot Sport (in 35mm) and they wear quite well. Consult a tire pressure chart before making your decision. Here is a handy calculator and chart. Problem Solvers | Optimal Bike Tire Pressure
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I'd just assumed a "Sammy slicks" was a slick.
A "real" slick should wear MUCH longer.

A "big guy" doesn't tell us anything about how much you weigh, which is a BIG factor on desired tire size.
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28mm is generally where really light tires with high thread count casings start.

They won't be as tough as the stock tires but will likely ride a little more nicely due to more supple casing.

If you get 28mm with 30 tpi then probably gonna feel about the same or worse than current tires.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
I'd just assumed a "Sammy slicks" was a slick.
A "real" slick should wear MUCH longer.

A "big guy" doesn't tell us anything about how much you weigh, which is a BIG factor on desired tire size.

Sorry, Sammy Slicks are gravel grinders for sure.....that is my wear issue, sorry about that. I want to go to a slick just working on the size. 35 is ok just want a really good tire.

I know I know damn new guys!!

I a 295 all geared up and about 6'2" only half is fat though
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
28mm is generally where really light tires with high thread count casings start.

They won't be as tough as the stock tires but will likely ride a little more nicely due to more supple casing.

If you get 28mm with 30 tpi then probably gonna feel about the same or worse than current tires.
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I'll confess my weight is going up, but I'm still about 30 lbs below you. I no longer ride 23's, but still trust 25's at my weight, so I'd think a 700x28 should hold you - assuming your rims aren't too wide or narrow, if that's possible. There are a number of well made tires in that size.
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28's will be much more fun.
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Soma New Express C line, 28, 32, or 35mm. Get the black, they'll last longer. Light, supple, tough sidewalls, smooth-riding
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
28's will be much more fun.
60,00 miles for me..Never had a Pinched Flat
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These are my favorite bang-for-buck 28s at the moment.

https://www.westernbikeworks.com/pro...g-120-tpi-tire
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I weigh 250.
622-25mm on my hybrid and 559-32 on my "grocery getter" MB. (Sometimes it has 50+ lbs. in the rear baskets.
If you have SMOOTH pavement, 28's would be great. Rough textured, go to 32 and if a lot of potholes, 35.
That assumes your current 35's handle everything OK.
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Thanks for all the imput if they fit i am going to try some 28's. I am really liking purples recommendations in the clemonts very nice looking. Good paved surface i have. I will check rims and see if they are compatible. Dont want to spend more than say 50 a tire if I can help it.
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At 295lbs, assuming a 55%/45% weight distribution, on 28mm tires, you'll need 122psi in the rear tire. With a 32mm tire, 98psi. With a 35mm tire, 84psi. I'd go 32mm minimum.
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Originally Posted by sdmc530
Sorry, Sammy Slicks are gravel grinders for sure.....that is my wear issue, sorry about that. I want to go to a slick just working on the size. 35 is ok just want a really good tire.

I know I know damn new guys!!

I a 295 all geared up and about 6'2" only half is fat though
700x35c 100% slick. Schwalbe Kojak. Yes, quiet, smooth, GRIP, awesome.
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Originally Posted by Jiggle
At 295lbs, assuming a 55%/45% weight distribution, on 28mm tires, you'll need 122psi in the rear tire. With a 32mm tire, 98psi. With a 35mm tire, 84psi. I'd go 32mm minimum.
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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet
700x35c 100% slick. Schwalbe Kojak. Yes, quiet, smooth, GRIP, awesome.
OK so I am going to stay with the 35.....I have talked to many people here and locally and they all said the same thing you are not gaining enough to drop to a 32 from a 35 that I would really know the difference. All said buy a high quality tire and ride on.
thanks all. Kojaks look super!!
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OK so I am going to stay with the 35.....I have talked to many people here and locally and they all said the same thing you are not gaining enough to drop to a 32 from a 35 that I would really know the difference. All said buy a high quality tire and ride on.
thanks all. Kojaks look super!!
If the Kojaks are too pricey, Specialized makes a nice 35mm slick. 100% bald too, like the Kojak. It's a little heavier, but it's a nice tire.

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet
If the Kojaks are too pricey, Specialized makes a nice 35mm slick. 100% bald too, like the Kojak. It's a little heavier, but it's a nice tire.

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thank you for that ... I am going to stop at spec. dealer in morning and get those...$35 bucks I am going to give them a try....thank you....


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